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Siilent
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Apparently, I'm partial to shoujo anime, seeing as Fruits Basket is probably my favourite thing in the world.
The two I'm considering are classed as 'shounen', as far as I know. Naruto, and Rurouni Kenshin (TV). ...Now, what makes these two shounen, and what are the pros and cons of the both of them? I think I should try something new, but I'm afraid of beeing disapointed like I was with Trigun. Of course, I've only seen the first episode, but I really don't think I should go any further. Chobits was also a disapointment, and I've seen around six-eight. Of course, these are shoujo, aren't they? Is there a huge difference? Naruto and Rurouni Kenshin seem very popular and loved. What I'm most eager to learn about is the characters: Not the development, but the strength of their personalities. The character in the characters... Please, convince me or steer me away. I'm not sure what to do here. |
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Iemander
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Bleach should be what you're looking for I figure. Although it hasn't run for long (it's halfway through the still developing manga at 40 episodes). It's great, I love it, and I'm more one who likes the serious stuff (Wolf's Rain, Evi) so that's saying alot.
You can get all the episodes at [Link removed. -Nagi] in 2 different formats. Well advised, I'm sure you'll like it. |
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Siilent
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Is it completed? I see that it, too, is a shounen anime.
What makes it differ, exactly, from the titles I've listed? Does it share a similarity to the things I've said? I'm not asking too many questions, am I? Heh, anyway, I'm actually almost finished Wolf's Rain. Only now have I realised how serious it is. Wow. Anyway...back on subject. |
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Iemander
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Well why would you ask too many questions? This is a forum isn't it?
Anyhow, Bleach is modern fiction, it's today's Japan. The fighting is fighting with dark age weapons against monsters (Evil spirits called Hollows) and other people who have blades. The whole thing revolves around Spirit power, which can be compared to that of DBZ, the fighting is rather similar as well in that regard. Only it's alot shorter, the action is alot smoother. The humor is one of the things I like about Bleach. It's actually something I find funny, unlike literally all the other Japanese animation series I've seen. The leads are great as well, none of them is whiney and they all have this "I'm actually not worthless" feel about them again unlike all the other animated series I've seen. The villians are equally diverse and interesting. The plot is pretty standard fare, it's nothing to get really excited about. Just an excuse for fighting really. You've probably seen this kind of developments and plot a dozen times already if you've seen Kenshin. spoiler[The Ichigo Rukia thing is pretty cute though, because they totally do NOT fit together.] Graphics and soundtrack are pretty much the best yet for this kind of thing imo in every degree. It's somewhere beneath Full Metal Alchemist in terms of presentation due to some lesser detail. |
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Siilent
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Nope, haven't seen Kenshin. I'm thinking about seeing it. Is there a real plot, though? I don't think I like DBZ, so is it really that similar?
If all it is is fighting (for both Bleach and Kenshin), wouldn't it get boring? Eh, what matters most to me is the characters. Are there many? I feel so lost.  I have no clue where to go next, because I hate being disapointed.
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Bruce Lee
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From one Furuba fan to another, I completely understand. Kenshin and Naruto are both great shows. I really like them both. Naruto being the newer of the two, seems to be aimed at a younger demographic than Kenshin, and has a more light-hearted tone. They're both *VERY* long, and Naruto isn't even *LEGALLY* available yet in the US. If you're looking for more of a quick-fix, let me suggest RahXephon. This is a great show with a bit of action and giant robots, but tons of character development and focus on relationships. For that, it's my favorite show, and I'd highly recommend it. It's also only 26 episodes (+ 1 movie) and is readily available in the US on DVD. It's been recently released in a complete DVD collection for around $60 so it's much more affordable now than even 1 box of Kenshin. Do yourself a favor and check it out! |
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Iemander
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ooooooooooow, I thought you were saying that you already saw both Naruto and Kenshin. Sorry, I misread. Well, you can just download those few episodes of Bleach. No harm about it, and you'll know what you have really. |
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Necros Antiquor
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Well, you have to realize this about shounen anime: most of them focus on fighting. That's why it's different from shoujo anime's relationships. However, there have been more blending of the genres lately, and many shounen anime now feature strong relationships in addition to the fighting. As for plot, that varies depending on the anime, shounen or shoujo. Rurouni Kenshin: This is a great series if you're just getting into shounen, because not only does it show off many of shounen anime's usual traits, but it also has a very healthy dose of relationships (and a strong plot in the second season). The first season doesn't have much of a plot beyond some small story arcs that actually happened in the original manga. They put in a lot of filler episodes that, while enjoyable, don't build on the characters as much as the short arcs. However, those arcs are top-notch, and once you get to the second season, the Kyoto arc, it's all one big story with tons of action and a steadily moving plot, as well as strong character interactions. In Japan, Kenshin actually had a higher female audience than male audience. That said, it is still shounen, so expect the heavy character relations from shoujo to be displaced somewhat by fighting. Naruto: This is fairly standard shounen fare, though it's still very good. There is lots and lots of fighting, there's a strong plot with fighting, and there is even some character development. Also, there's fighting. Naruto has a wide appeal, is very popular, and good quality, but it's about as shounen as you can get, in my opinion. You might want to try Kenshin before Naruto if you're used to shoujo. Bleach: Same category as Naruto, except it seems more modern (Naruto doesn't have a time period) and has more humor between the characters. Hope that helps! |
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Siilent
Posts: 184 Location: Canada |
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That definately helped me, very much so! Thanks! :B
I've watched the first two episodes of Kenshin. So far, I can give it an 'average' rating, but seeing as there's a stronger plot later as mentioned, I will continue. I do know that even after the first mere couple of episodes, Kenshin's 'oro?' gets old. ...How many times does he have to say that? I hate to, well, complain, but it's not funny anymore. The fighting is alright, seeing as it's not all that happens, but it doesn't seem like it's going to go anywhere. Does it just lead to another fight, or are there many more characters introduced? As for Naruto, it isn't downloading properly, but from pictures I've seen, it surprises me that it's a shounen. It looks a lot more friendly than Kenshin. Kenshin's characters are also irritating me. They're all quite similar, not very direct or 'out-there' at all. All of them seem to be the average, main character type. But that's only so far. Bleach: I can't find the links on the site provided to download the first few, but I have a few questions: It seems a lot more serious than any of the others. Is this true? From what everyone is saying, it's almost being made out to be slightly comedic, but when I look it up, all I see is the sneering face of that orange-haired main character, and all I hear about is combat. ...? |
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Iemander
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Rurouni Kenshin is quite good I agree, I had alot of fun watching that one. The fighting was reasonably interesting and rather diverse.
However, I totally loved all of the characters and the plot was rather good for that kind of series. Especially Kenshin spoiler[and his teacher] totally rock. About Bleach, you can't find the episodes for download? Here's a direct link: [link removed -Nagi] |
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mitora
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Is that a fansub site? If it is then ya'll may want to take a look at this.
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.Sy
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And if you like Wolf's Rain, try Witch Hunter Robin. It's got a similar mood to it. |
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Aaron White
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Posts: 1365 Location: Birmingham, Alabama |
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Matt thorn said that as a rule of thumb, if the main guy in the story is an ordinary guy, it's shonen. If he's handsome and super-cool, it's shojo.
The latest issue of The Comics Journal, the Shojo issue, goes into this in detail and has a cool in-depth article about Chobits. |
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a_lonewolf
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I too am I huge Fruits Basket fan, but I can honestly say that I am equally as much a fan of the Rurouni Kenshin series.
I don't think I put too much thought into whether what I watch is Shoujo or Shounen. I like action and I like relationship development. Kenshin provides the right mix of both. It is, however, quite an investment of time to watch the whole series as there are 22 volumes and 4 OVAs. I would say it is worth it (particularly the Kyoto arc and the Trust & Betrayal OVAs). I have no opinion on Bleach or Naruto as I haven't seen them yet (I get my anime from Netflix and those titles haven't been licensed and/or released).[/i] |
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