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The Mad Manga Massacre
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I wasn't certain as to where to put this so I put it here. Please move if I have it in the wrong section. My main question is not about Bill 156 itself but more about its impact on mature titles. After Bill 156 goes into effect will there be anime and manga such as Honey & Clover, Gilgamesh, and Ergo Proxy coming out?
 Or will it become an industry which only produces children titles? I apologize if I sound ignorant. I know that it will be difficult for people who produce/consume BL and GL titles to continue doing so (I've read a bit myself). I also know that rape and incest could not be sold to minors but that is pretty much the extent of my knowledge.
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 7585 Location: Wales |
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Ask yourself this: is there graphic rape and incest in any of the three titles you name? I've not seen all of any of them, but I suspect not (especially in the case of H&C), in which case there is no problem. |
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Aoi_Sakaraba
 Posts: 312 Location: Des Moines, Iowa |
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Think of it as, all anime will be more censored than american shows.
This will prevent any sexual situations involving minors. Whether it's intercourse, or panty shots, to sexual jokes. Basically the ecchi genre will be dead. I also heard it will greatly reduce violence too. If this bill passes even clean stuff like clannad will have a couple things censored in it. I see this bill as "The Year the Anime Died" I watched anime because you could write about what ever you wanted and publish it. Those days will be gone. |
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an.atticus
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i think some people may be blowing this out of proportion we will still have quality series coming out, this will only effect a small minority in the anime community
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poilk92
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Anime just isnt worth it with the graphic rape and incest cut out. Anime is dead
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excaliber736
 Posts: 71 Location: Canada |
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Well, I think it should have very little impact on people living in North America. From what I understand, it just increases the age at which one can legally purchase works containing certain kinds of content. For people who get most of their stuff from the Internet anyway, this won't even be a factor. In addition, any licensed releases in North America will probably not be subject to the same regulations.
In conclusion: The bill sucks for adolescent Japanese perverts but should not worry anyone else. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Self-regulation and content filtering will result in less mature content coming out of Japan. What makes it to the U.S. or any other country will be the same watered down content. So in effect the law applies everywhere. |
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shoddyworksucks
 Posts: 21 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Actually, the issue with Bill 156 is that this legislation, as it is written, will NOT effect the moe/loli works that it was originally intended to. Most of the egregious works the bill was meant to target aren't available to minors anyway, so it doesn't put a dent in that stuff. The original bill, which was shot down a year or so ago, if I remember correctly, had wording that specifically targeted the depiction of underage characters and sexuality. The new bill actually does away with a lot of that language, making the bill more open to interpretation, meaning that it might have a chilling effect on the anime industry as a whole since producers and creators might not be clear on what is and what is not allowed now under this new bill. This also applies to re-releases of older series.
Bill 156 might have major ramifications for the industry, since it, and I'm paraphrasing here, addresses manga and anime with unnatural acts, or acts that would not be permitted within Tokyo. Gay marriage would be out, as would any shows depicting incest, murder, or any crime. The reason its such a big deal is because there are no end to the wacky interpretations one could apply to this bill. That said, in a long-winded fashion, many companies have come forward to protest the bill and have stated that they will ignore it. This isn't the first time the Japanese government has tried to put a damper on certain aspects of anime and manga, and it probably won't be the last. In the end, I don't think this will effect much of anything; it might be a law, but it would still need to be enforced before companies and retailers choose to respect it. |
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Aoi_Sakaraba
Posts: 312 Location: Des Moines, Iowa |
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The anime industry may be in trouble, but The government still wouldn't want to kill a a whole industry. So this bill better not kill out fanservice anime like kannagi, etc. Which do have some sexual situations, but not enough in my book to be harmful to a child...
I can understand various ecchis though. |
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Haterater
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Some people are still thinking it only targets the extreme stuff, but in reality, the extreme stuff is already regulated. Its like what shoddyworksucks says, all the stuff that the bill finds "unnatural acts, or acts that would not be permitted within Tokyo." The way its vague would mean it would go after all shows that might even have some tame stuff in it as well, but still want to make a storyline from them. Detective Conan, for example, would be in trouble because they solve murder cases and this bill might mean mentioning or showing murder a no-no. Not to mention whole genres like Yuri/Yaoi are gone because of the subject alone.
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poilk92
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Magic is unnatural and as such is subject to censor. Oh wait giant robots are unnatural so are guns swords and all other man made creations hmmmmm from now on the only permissible anime is the new and exciting nature documentary anime
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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poilk92
Posts: 433 Location: Long Beach California |
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are aliens really natural? Natural as in occurring in or in balance with nature... I don't think so, at least not in the way that we understand nature so NO MORE ALIENS
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egoist
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It's okay as long as it's just the minority we dislike. God knows just how much this dirty minority contributes to the industry by buying love dolls, body pillows, and naked figures of said ecchi series that'll have its sales jeopardized, resulting in another blow to a desperate industry. Surely quality stuff like Shiki can stand well on its own. |
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HyugaHinata
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Precisely. If 'properly' enforced, it will literally castrate the manga/anime industry at a bare minimum. On a lighter note, this is my impression of Ishihara-lolicon's Intern Selection Process: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/games/play/359216/ Because proscribing victimless crimes is a waste of resources that lead to more real crimes. http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/208.htm |
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