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Random_Guy
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So, they are persuing scanlators because......?
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DarkCyradis
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Huh... so manga sales are up, literature is down? Guess it makes sense--people prefer light-hearted entertainment when times are tough in reality. But does that mean that $49 million loss was *only* due to the devaluation of their real estate? What else does a big publisher like Shueisha do for revenue?
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Moomintroll
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Because the general trend is down. One publisher showing a slight growth in one year hardly changes that...especially when the publisher in question has the rights to the sales record-breaking One Piece. Because the scan aggregation sites stand in the way of the legal rights holders pursuing their own online plans. Because if you discover you're playing host to a lot of voracious, blood-sucking parasites you tend to want to cleanse yourself of them. Or was that supposed to be a rhetorical question? |
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lascd123
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I would imagine that even though the numbers for overall manga are up, they are only so high because of properties like one piece and naruto which have sold millions of copies in their first print running. Chances are the average manga series that does not have ridiculous popularity is very much effected by scanlations, hence why they are pursuing them more severely. |
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Jaymie
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This isn't that bad. 2009 is included, and 2008/2009 were terrible years for everyone due to the recession. Things are starting to stabilize across the board during 2010, so their next fiscal year should be better.
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
 Posts: 1685 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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...scanlators have to do with overseas sales, not Japanese sales, as is being reported here. |
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CCSYueh
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...most literary works state for PRIVATE use only & thus one must ASK permission of the holders of the copyright before sharing. Most every scanner I know if has not asked for this permission & thus does not possess it. It's sort of like someone coming up to me to ask if they can borrow your car & I say "Sure". I lack the power to grant that permission to use your stuff as scanners lack that power to share works created by someone other than themselves. The best they can do would maybe be just text & even that is most likely not allowed because they didn't have permission in the first case. Or that dumpster cat thing people have been talking about. Even outside the argument of cruelty, the gal that came upon that cat & put it into that dumpster didn't own the cat & thus had no permission to put that cat into a dumpster where it spent several hours before being rescued. Keep your hands off other people's stuff. |
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TsukasaElkKite
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Is this a bad sign?
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VDZ
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So sales are increasing, yet they're making a loss?
Oh well. It must be those damn pirates! |
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agila61
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They do, of course, have reason to be worried about the threat of piracy hitting them, as it has hit the domestic anime market, but this story reports sales as up, though slightly ~ the loss is due to losing 1/4 of their advertising revenue. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Is no one even listening?
THIS IS ABOUT JAPANESE SALES. JAPANESE SALES. Most of the piracy affects NON-JAPANESE SALES. Enough with the scanlation talk. Entirely OT. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
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Quite. They have good reason to be worried about piracy affecting Japanese manga, with the rising popularity of mangascan sites ... as piracy has already hit anime in Japan ... but the report here is of falling revenue in the face of a small increase in sales. Its ad revenue that's off, which suggests that the sluggish growth of the past four quarters ... 09Q3 -0.26%, 09Q4 +1% 10Q1 +1.09% 10Q2 +0.10% (all in annual terms) ... an average of +0.48% ... is leading to advertisers looking for where to trim budgets. |
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Dargonxtc
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My guess is the largest chunk that made them go in the red is the lower advertising revenue aspect. That is where the meat and potatoes come from in industries like publishing. Particularly periodicals. So when it comes down to it even though sales are up, they are ultimately getting less bang for their buck for each issue sold. Realize agila61 already pointed this out, though in a less direct way. |
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DarkCyradis
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Ahh, that makes sense. But in that case, it's more a problem of the entire economy being down/the usual companies being unable to afford to run ads in the mags anymore. That makes me sad... wish the economy would pick up again (both in Japan and overseas). |
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