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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:09 pm Reply with quote
Awesome! Go Eden of the East, the only adult series to break into the top ten this season! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:14 pm Reply with quote
Nice.
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vulcanraven01



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:02 am Reply with quote
Pretty amazing considering it's a late night show.
Hopefully the movies get a warm reception as well.
Really has been a refreshing series in an otherwise boring season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:08 am Reply with quote
Now that's what I'm talking 'bout. Eden of the East is awesome. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:21 am Reply with quote
Am I the only one who feels that Sazae-san, Japans consistant Number 1 rated anime, has never ever been licensed outside of the country? Is it because there are similar looking and similar story telling else where, therefore it would be just another duplication of the same?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:32 am Reply with quote
Go, Eden of the East! I'm glad to see it did well in the ratings. I hope this bodes well for the upcoming movies; I also hope that someone licenses it for the U.S. sometime in the future.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:54 am Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
Am I the only one who feels that Sazae-san, Japans consistant Number 1 rated anime, has never ever been licensed outside of the country? Is it because there are similar looking and similar story telling else where, therefore it would be just another duplication of the same?


Sazae-san is most definitely a children's show (most of these programs are), and while once, when Nickelodeon first began, a lot of Japanese children's programs were brought over and dubbed (anyone else remember Maya the Bee?), there's so much native children's animation in America and other English-speaking countries that the chances of any show for that demographic being licensed are slim.

Perhaps as American anime fans grow up and have children they'll put pressure on companies to bring over anime for children, but in the meantime, they're more likely to focus on series for adults (or that people seem to think are for adults; remember, folks: Naruto, One Piece, and the like are aimed at older children and young teens in Japan, not adults).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:15 pm Reply with quote
I think it's more fair to say they are family oriented, than just for children. Sazae-san the character is 24 years old, and the story takes place in the 56s-60s. Maruko-chan takes place in the 70s. Crayon Shin-chan's author is a social commentary comic strip artist, and his other works often illustrate explicit content. There is a lot of references in these shows that children would not understand, and are solely intended for people who share the same cultural historical memory.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:21 pm Reply with quote
Shuchung wrote:
I think it's more fair to say they are family oriented, than just for children. Sazae-san the character is 24 years old, and the story takes place in the 56s-60s. Maruko-chan takes place in the 70s. Crayon Shin-chan's author is a social commentary comic strip artist, and his other works often illustrate explicit content. There is a lot of references in these shows that children would not understand, and are solely intended for people who share the same cultural historical memory.


I can tell you flatly from experience with Japanese people that children watch Crayon Shin-chan in Japan. Not all parents are crazy about that, but it is watched by a lot of children. The "explicit content" is considered appropriate by many in Japan (though some parents hate the series); remember that nearly ALL the dialogue you hear on its Adult Swim manifestation is original to the American version and is not reflective of the Japanese. Moreover, that his "other works" might not be child-appropriate doesn't make Shin-chan less of a kids' show any more than Roal Dahl's books aren't for children because he wrote some pretty raunchy stuff for adults.

True, many of these shows have elements that only the parents will get, much the way a Pixar movie might; but this doesn't change the fact that they are not the typical teen-and-adult-aimed fare that is popular and marketable to the anime viewing audience in America.

Plus, Sazae-chan is 1700+ episodes long. Nobody's going to license that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:27 pm Reply with quote
Sazae-san is unlicensable. Even if a licensor could get just a handful of the best-of-the-best of the 2000 or so episodes at a significantly-reduced cost, the art style and primitive animation quality would have next to no appeal to western anime fans, and the comedy is far from cutting-edge, like what it would be like if, and I'm ripping off a comment on this blog entry, they had an animated version of The Donna Reed Show and it was still on the air (or the comic strip Blondie).

I don't disrepect the show or its iconic status, but, after four decades on the air, it's basically just animated comfort food for aging Japanese baby boomers; the only reason new episodes are being made is that people would miss it if it was gone.
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Shuchung



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:48 pm Reply with quote
vashfanatic wrote:
I can tell you flatly from experience with Japanese people that children watch Crayon Shin-chan in Japan. Not all parents are crazy about that, but it is watched by a lot of children. The "explicit content" is considered appropriate by many in Japan (though some parents hate the series); remember that nearly ALL the dialogue you hear on its Adult Swim manifestation is original to the American version and is not reflective of the Japanese. Moreover, that his "other works" might not be child-appropriate doesn't make Shin-chan less of a kids' show any more than Roal Dahl's books aren't for children because he wrote some pretty raunchy stuff for adults.

True, many of these shows have elements that only the parents will get, much the way a Pixar movie might; but this doesn't change the fact that they are not the typical teen-and-adult-aimed fare that is popular and marketable to the anime viewing audience in America.

Plus, Sazae-chan is 1700+ episodes long. Nobody's going to license that.

I said it's family-oriented, not children don't watch them? And by explicit content I meant man and woman having sex, that's the kind of stuff Crayon Shin-chan's author used to draw in his older series.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:10 am Reply with quote
Tenchi wrote:
... the only reason new episodes are being made is that people would miss it if it was gone.
You don't really believe that, do you? It's obvious the only reason it gets new episodes is because it's number 1 in the ratings. It's similar to the Simpsons. First sign that it isn't pulling in the numbers it's relegated to repeat syndications, or pulled altogether, with all new eps finished, or cancelled. Wink
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