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NEWS: The Anime Network in Trouble?

I live in one of those Big cities (LA) that have alot of anime shops, and plenty of fans who are anime fans. I could careless if TAN or Comcast or Animax comes out to broadcast Anime. Untill either of channels can get into Satellite providers I could careless if TAN goes "belly up". Call me selfish, but I have supported TAN, and have asked My satellite provider to get the Anime network, but there hasn't been any acton from ADV or my satellite provider.

TAN needs to worry about getting their service onto OTHER systems than fight Comcast.

I'm still waiting for them to get their collective asses onto Time Warner.

Hmmm They are on time warner ON DEMAND. ^_~.

What this has to do with it is that it proves ADV is not afraid to put out a boxset worth over 150$ for just a third of the price. Heck, they're throwing away money they can possibly make here. They're just doing something nice for the fans. This is not the only title they've done it with either, so it's not one case in a few. (look at the BGC 2040 boxset, and their new "Essential Anime Collection")

I saw through that press release like saran wrap. Unfortunately I think a lot of you think like Littlegreenwolf, who very clearly has blinders on and has no problem being lead around by the nose. You all can go on acting as ADV's "loyal army", I'll be over here making decisions in my own interest, thanks.

Toboe, my point was they didn't HAVE to release the boxset at that price, but they did. Yes they released all of the anime in single dvds before, but did they do what other companies usually do, and throw it all into a box and charge how much each dvd was worth? No. It wasn't just a "gift", they are making money from it. I never said they weren't. However ADV is also being considerate for the fans when they mark the price down to about a quarter of what the dvds are worth, and in a boxset. You're comparing this to something such as a rerelease of regular dvd movies being cheaper. Yeah, they do that in an attempt to sell more but this is a different market. Can you not realise this is an anime boxset? How much do these things go for? How much are they worth, and how much is ADV selling it for? You cannot deny that 50-80 bucks is a big deal for an anime fan to get a whole 26 episodes for when originally each individual dvd with about 3-4 episodes was 30 bucks. That "deal" is what I'm talking about.

My point is, these companies don't HAVE to have such drastic price drops to sell more of this. The price of the dvds is being cut down to about a quarter of what they originally sold for.

Really Toboe, if you have been reading my post as well as you think you have, you'll notice I made fun of this move by ADV in my very first post of this thread, and I AM making decisions based on my own intrest. I never said I was against Comcast releasing anime. I'm against them dropping TAN in favor of their own release of anime. They can compete all they want, but dropping a competitor for their own intrest I'm against. You need to get your head out of your derriere and quit being so cynical of another person’s opinion that you don’t seem to be capable of comprehending, and quit sprouting your notions of other people as fact.

And yes, Toboe and Juniper; ADV still ass! after all, they have one of the best series out there MEZZO ONE. Sure comcast,bring it on we shall see who will be the "last man standing" On a side note, Gatsu and LGW have made some valid points/arguements to counter your posts and with humor at that.

And yes, Toboe and Juniper; ADV still ass! after all, they have one of the best series out there MEZZO ONE. Sure comcast,bring it on we shall see who will be the "last man standing" On a side note, Gatsu and LGW have made some valid points/arguements to counter your posts and with humor at that.

[WOAH. ADV has a title you like! They rawk!!!!

Comcast, if they do get an anime channel, is going to acquire someone else's network and air it. This big shadowy organization full of so many suits that you all love to hate... is going to aquire someone else's network... a network run by people who know their stuff. The thing is, none of this has even happened yet. Getting your panties in a bundle over something that hasn't even happened yet is a waste of energy and hell on your panties.

Comcast is a content provider. They provide content. TAN is not making them money. Another business venture might make them more. Okay. Deal with it. It's called a "business decision." Maybe it'll work in their favor, maybe it won't. But that's their business decision, so that they make more money, because that's what companies do. Watching someone take away your chance to watch an anime channel... eh. Comcast bringeth, Comcast taketh away. Deal with it.

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ADV came along at an opportune time and made some wise business choices that allowed them to be as they are now. But under no circumstances can anyone ever say that ADV is to thank for the American anime industry. That's just ignorance.

Yes. Those Rumiko Takahashi tv shows from Viz and Animeigo were the reason the industry is a success story. Forget about Devil Hunter Yohko, Blue Seed, and Evangelion.

So you honestly think that they are purposefully losing money on something "for the fans". You honestly interpret them marking something down - something very well past it's prime, something where the original (overpriced with low episode counts) DVDs weren't moving anymore - as some kind of benevolent gesture. The point is that the reason anyone marks anything down is to move more copies. Right Stuf is clearing out the warehouse, moving product that isn't moving well anymore. Thinking that this is some kind of Gift From Above, from these wonderful teddybear companies that just love you so much, is foolish and naive. I can't interpret it as anything else and I'm sorry if you're offended by that but it's true. Learn a little about economics and how to run a business and then come back and tell me you feel the same way..

Also, to wit, aren't you the one who complained a whole lot about ADV releasing Loki Ragnarok and Peacemaker manga that was halfway through the series' run? So what was that then, some benevolent decision made to please the fans, or a cash grab tie-in that was convenient for them? They released Peacemaker Kurogane to go along with the anime series, even though the manga made little to no sense at all if you hadn't read the first, what, seven volumes that they didn't have the rights to? Yeah, ADV makes decisions all the time 'for the good of the fans', don't they? This was a deliberate release designed to sell more copies of a manga title they KNEW was extremely questionable, something that wouldn't make a heck of a lot of sense to most people, but they did it anyway just because they knew the manga would sell better now if they tied it in to the anime. Go ahead and defend that decision using the same logic you're using to defend this..

As for spouting my 'notions of other people as fact' (what the heck does that even mean?), my head has been firmly planted in my own derriere for many moons now (get it, moons?!) and I still make more sense than you do.

Not purposely "loosing" money. Purposely passing up making less money than they could. And Toboe, screw you. I am well aware of how economics works, and sometimes companies DO sacrifice goods to attract more potential cusomters. Don't start preaching to me about learning what economics is when I just finished that class *which btw was an honors class* in which I had to write a whole freaking essay on Ben and Jerry's; the beginning to present. You know what B&J do? They have free icecream days. Odalalee, now why would they do that? It's certianly not to clear out their current icecream stock because they buy extra just for this day. Now why do they do this? To get on the customer's good side, and to create a loyal fanbase. Businesses all over do it, and you fellow forum grumbler, really need to go back to economics if you've never heard of it before.

A 'notion' is an opinion. Does it make more sense when I say "sprouting opinions of other people as fact"? I really do hope you understand the sentence now. You know, there is a book called a dictionary used in cases just like these when you come across words you don't understand.

OK, that's just ignorant.