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smurky turkey
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It really is a show with fights between monsters and with that I am not just refering to the Kaiju, Hoshina seems even more dangerous than many of the literal monsters on display so far. The show also manages to give me Parasyte vibes at times, that poor driver getting devoured gave me flashbacks.
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ACｘS
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Glad to see Kafka finally becoming an officer. More like, I was glad that the sheer significance of learning the Kaiju's reproductive ability was recognized. In life, the people who get recognized most often are those on the offensive line. The one with the most kills. The ones who score the most in a sports team. Usually the ones in the limelight are the ones who get the glory. The ones who don't usually work behind the scenes, which is vital because they prevent the team from losing. The ones who defend the flag. The ones who prevent the opposing team from scoring. A team can't win if they don't rake in the kills, but it can't win if the members are dying too. Kafka found out about the Kaiju's reproductive organs and that prevented his team from dying from the final standoff. For that, he got promoted. Happy for him. Man, this show doesn't take a break. Now we have another bad news coming. This is fabulous. |
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Edjwald
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It's a great show. Most of what I'd say (fleshing out cast gradually and organically, great balance of action and personal interaction, grimness and humor, etc) I've said before, but just maintaining that level of momentum and quality this far into the season is impressive.
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Harleyquin
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This is the third sentient Kaiju introduced in this adaptation, and it is certainly showing off just how dangerous it is with its combat ability, brute-force power and regenerative capabilities. If it's also like No. 8 and No. 9 in using a human host as part of the package, it would partially explain its affinity for the thrill of battle which Hoshina has picked up on. For a starter episode to the new story arc, not much time is wasted. The action more or less starts from the get go after Hoshina and Kafka finish their self-reflection. The latter again shows why he's such an asset when he's not transformed: he was quoting his career portfolio when he detailed the type of Kaiju used as grunts, their behavioural profile and their weak points. Because he conveys the information so quickly (even before the military control room can get round to it), the squads waste less time trying to scout their opponents' capabilities and go straight to liquidation. Kafka couldn't have counted on the grunts working together though, that is the benefit of having No. 10 as the lead monster. Kikoru is officially rated as the 3rd strongest combatant in the base at last. So she earns her personal weapon much earlier than expected. Good timing too, they couldn't exploit the grunts' weakness and Kikoru's brute force allows them to overcome the wyvern coordination and pick them off one by one with Kikoru (and later Reno) breaking up pairs of wyverns. With the off-duty squads joining the fray, the defence force would be on their way to winning if not for No. 10 being held to a stalemate by Hoshina. Hoshina apparently has to ask for permission before activating his suit because of safety protocols rather than any risk to him in the short term. He even says if he activates the suit's full powers when there are other soldiers around there's a real risk they'll be injured because of the backdraft from his strikes. He did a very good job taking out No. 10 in his first form (and fully validating his claim that for monsters of medium and large size he's stronger than Mina), but with No. 10 going all out and going gargantuan he's out of options as the prey is too big for the weapons to work efficiently. That leaves Kikoru, Kafka as No. 8 and possibly the other captains to pitch in since Mina with her oversized railgun isn't present to support. So far the corps have done well to keep casualties at a minimum since Kafka joined, will this be the first skirmish where there will be casualties? |
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smurky turkey
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That was an exciting episode, plenty of action and there was progress to show that several characters have gotten a fair bit stronger/more skilled. Kafka is starting to play it pretty loose with his abilities though, with so many people around it would be best for him not to get too involved.
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Edjwald
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True, but if he was going to be smart, he never would have joined the Defense Force in the first place, he'd be doing the Kaiju #8 thing as if he were living the Spider-man life. . And the show wouldn't be called *Kaiju #8* if Kafka wasn't going to keep getting pulled into it. It'd be *Alienated* or *Battle Not With Monsters* or *Do You Remember That Time I Got Infected by an Alien Parasite After Repeatedly Failing the Fitness Test for the Special Defense Force and Couldn't Let Anybody Know I Had Super Powers?* The underlying structure of the show is that Kafka isn't one of those protagonists like...hmmm...the one from *Solo Leveling* who makes mostly rational decisions geared around not exposing his abilities before he can handle the consequences. Kafka is all guts and good intentions as he makes one foolhardy decision after another while his friends try to cover for him on the fly. And it's kind of endearing. |
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ACｘS
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You know, with the way Kafka is helping Division 3, he should be in the support role (or even R&D) more than on the frontlines. His sharing information on Kaiju anatomy and behavior—let's call it Kaijuology—is so much more invaluable than as an actual soldier. But I do admit: his contributions are made possible because he is physically on the frontlines. It's strange: the appearance of Kaiju No. 9 gave me vibes of Parasyte. Now with this new Daikaiju 9.0, it's giving me vibes of another show: One Punch Man S1. I love it, though; the fun has been nonstop. |
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Waid Rabby Nadaga
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Kaiju No. 10 is such a cool design, it almost looks like something out of the Guyver.
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I love this show and Kafka is the man but I have to smile a bit at the show's attempt to build him up via his kaiju expertise. Only because you'd have to think that Japan's best scientific minds would have been spending all their time studying and compiling info on the kaijus for years. Yet somehow this scrub is the ace expert who has knowledge that APPARENTLY nobody else has sussed out yet. Okay.
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smurky turkey
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I suppose being exposed was a thing that was bound to happen at some point. That goes especially so when you want to protect your comrades while they have to face unprecedented types of kaiju and you not being the type to consider what might happen to yourself all that much. I assume that Kafka will become a special part of the force since being killed and turned into a special weapon would be quite the unexpectedly gruesome ending.
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zfunk
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I am surprised the reveal happened this episode, I thought it would be next episode and the finale will be the aftermath.
Anyway what I want to talk about, is it just me or does it seem that Okonogi harbor some feelings for Vice Captain Hoshina or I am reading too much into her reaction when it seemed he was dead? |
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Harleyquin
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The episode title gave it away, but the reason why he was found out was probably not what casual viewers would have expected given how the episode was going. It is the twist at the end that forces Kafka's hand, and it's a Deus Ex Machina so ludicrous in scale that saving the lives of everyone in the area was the price worth paying for divulging his identity. Leading up to the big reveal, it is Hoshina's time to shine as he's forced to go all out against No. 10's giant form. We also learn why he ended up in Mina's squad to begin with, as well as the hidden reason behind his competitive streak when Kafka said he'd strive to take his place. The eyes-closed laid back vice-captain feels indebted to Mina for giving him the opportunity to showcase the skills he was born and trained to do, so it's not surprising he'll lay down his life to give her the clean shot she needs to finish the job. Mina's own admission about being hopeless with melee weapons might well extend to her personal life; I wouldn't be surprised if she's not capable of cooking if she says she can't even handle kitchen knives. No. 10 shows an unexpectedly ruthless streak: the ear-splitting howl at the start of the episode was a command for the flying grunts to go into suicide bomber mode. A strategy No. 9 would be proud of, and its effectiveness was only limited because the bombers were focused on Hoshina and not the rest of the active squads. The final howl which was the fake-out for a death scream was also the command to prepare the doomsday Kaiju bomb as well, which also implies despite Mina's clean shot No. 10 might not have been destroyed by the attack and like No. 9 can make use of the ruckus to make a clean getaway in a smaller form. No. 8 seems to run almost completely on instinct, since he's never exhibited that particular transformation to date. Kafka simply wills his monster form into a shape which matches what he'd like to achieve, and the monster form does the rest. He's also durable enough to withstand the shockwave and literally stood still to ensure the cadets behind him weren't obliterated by the blast. He's resigned to his fate, but Mina and the others owe him their lives so the story ending with him being shackled and turned into someone else's experimental weapon would be an injustice because of the lack of gratitude. Next week will tell us exactly what the story will do to keep going. |
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ACｘS
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I was hoping that Kafka's identity would be revealed eventually. But to be honest, I didn't think it would be in a climactic way. Only two episodes left, and it will be about how the Defense Force wants to deal with Kafka's secret. I don't think they are going to kill him; most likely, both will strike a deal where Kafka will continue to serve the Defense Force, but the latter will find a way to neutralize him if he betrays. You know, the old chestnut. |
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zfunk
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Hopefully for Kafka's sake, whoever makes the decision on him have not seen Attack On Titan. |
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Edjwald
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I'm just glad the show's dealing with the issue up front this early in and not leaving Kafka's exposure as a cliffhanger. Not that this show seems like it has to worry about getting a season 2. This one would be a winner in any year IMHO.
Well, maybe not before the late twentieth century... |
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