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Key
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With 24 hours left and 17 votes in, here's how we stand:
D-10, D-13, and D-16 are all running neck-and-neck and seem likely to go down to the wire. D-6 is still close enough to easily be in play. D-1, D-3, D-5, and D-11 are likely decided but still within the realm of possibility for a comeback. If you have yet to vote, these are the matches that you should concentrate your arguments on. |
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dtm42
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso Porco Rosso Sorry Generic #757858, but it is coming up to two-thirty in the morning and I really cannot be bothered to spit some bile, even at what I see is a seriously uncool character. Are they both badarses? Strength alone isn't enough, nor is being frightening. Badarse characters in a way get the audience to admire them, and I can't admire a guy who absolutely deserves to be for the rest of his days in a shallow grave or psychiatric hospital. I mean, he's a loon, a thug with plot-armour and the mind of a three-year-old. Ladd and Claire were actually two reasons (of many) why I dislike Baccano!. I chose Ladd on my Minigame, but I'll be damned if I'm voting for him. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte Lupin III Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo Hitagi She's the scariest - and possibly the best - Tsundere I've ever seen. Whenever she's on screen she dominates it. I enjoyed watching Jin, I like him a lot, but he isn't anywhere near as fearsomely cool and badarse as Hitagi is. Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho Spike Never watched Genkai, unless Yu Yu Hakusho: The Abridged Series counts. But it doesn't matter. Spike is so cool he makes me think smoking is cool, and I hate smoking and have never puffed a cigarette in my life (and never will). Too cool. Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin Erin I just watched Paprika, and while the titular character was cute and bubbly, and was both competent and proficient in the dream world, she was more charm than cool. I've heard good things about Erin, so I'll go with her. Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo Duke Togo Taisou's writeup doesn't seem very persuasive. And of course, Duke Togo is little else but cool. Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit Firo He was awesome. He never flaunted his strength if he could help it, but when he needed to his opponent was in big trouble. Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club Alucard Alucard - especially with Crispin Freeman voicing him - does little else but act cool and badarse. It's like he's contractually obligated to or something. Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo Yang Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise Saeko I will link to that video again. So there are probably other moments as well; I don't know, I haven't actually seen the show. But try and beat that scene Xellos. You can't, can you? Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise Mokoto Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! Dark Schneider Scar was good, so when the video clips come there had better be some strong evidence as to why Schneider is supposedly so good. Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross Shizuo Yeah, he was cool, I vouch for him. IZAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied Lucy It isn't her powers that are so scary, but rather her warped personality. Just because her backstory is so forgiving of her does not lessen just how brutal she is. Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler Suitengu Speed Grapher is so underrated. And so is Suitengu. Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise Batou Batou is threatening to topple Kamina? I don't care if my Minigame suffers, sign me up dudes, sign me up. |
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Spastic Minnow
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso Voting For: Porco Rosso I like Baccano, but there is simply nothing cool about Ladd Russo! What is cool about being psychotic? I don't see how you can call him charismatic, there is one reason people have not ganged up on him and killed his stupid, blood-thirsty, and dangerous self. Because, aprt from being a psycho he is also spoiled rich boy protected by a powerful crime family whose father would be better off putting him down. Porco on the other hand is the picture of cool- a literal pig-faced man who demands your respect anyway, through skill, his cool-headed nature in adversity, and a morality that protects others at personal risk. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte Voting For: Arsene Lupin III (shouldn't the "III" also be in his name in future rounds? He isn't his grandfather.) Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo Voting For: Hitagi Senjourgahara Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho Voting For: Spike Spiegel Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin Voting For: Atsuko Chiba/Paprika Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo Voting For: Duke Togo Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit Voting For: Firo Prochainezo Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club Voting For: Kyouya Ootari Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo Voting For: Yang Wen Li Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise Voting For: Xellos Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise Voting For: Motoko Kusanagi Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! Voting For: Dark Schneider Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross Voting For: Maximilien Jenius Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied Voting For: Honoka Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler Voting For: Sebastien Michaelis Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise Voting For: Batou |
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Sparkamus Prime
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso Porco Rosso Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte Arsene Lupin Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo Jin Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho Spike Spiegel Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin Erin Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo Duke Togo Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit Firo Prochainezo Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club Alucard Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo Yang Wen Li Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise Saeko Busujima Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise Motoko Kusanagi Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! Dark Schneider Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross Shizuo Heiwajima Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied Lucy Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler Sebastien Michaelis Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise Kamina I have to give Kamina the edge over Batou in this match. While both are well known characters from popular franchises, the roles each hold in their respective series make the biggest difference. Kamina is the driving force of Gurren Lagann in the earliest episodes. He uses his charisma and confidence to both inspire those around him and take action himself. His role as mentor to Simon also allowed him to utter some of the most memorable lines in recent anime history. Against some other opponents in this tournament, Batou could easily move on to the next round. He is extremely skilled as a fighter and is very respected by those in Section 9. He is even given the task of future members of Section 9. He is given a more human side through his interactions with the Tachikomas and his non-work related conversations with Motoko. His connection to Motoko is his biggect weakness against Kamina in my opinion. While a strong character in his own rite Motoko outshines him in the series and by playing second fiddle to her he loses some of coolness. *Point removed due to clarification from Generic #757858. Knew I should have refreshed my memory before posting  .
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Generic #757858
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That was because spoiler[he refused the post though, not because of his lack of ability.] But yeah, it's a shame Batou had to go against Kamina at such an early stage, I'd easily have picked him over most of the other candidates. Not that I'll be particularly sad if he manages to win, at least that would be make upcoming match ups more interesting, even if it screwed up my minigame. |
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Mad_Scientist
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso My vote: Ladd Russo Ladd is a guy who shouldn't be likable. Some would argue he isn't likable. He's a bad-ass, but he's insane and sadistic, a nutcase who loves killing. Bad-ass, but there's no way he could be "cool" in a more general sense, right? Yet somehow, for reasons I can't describe, he's incredibly fun to watch. I find myself rooting for him even when going against someone who is seemingly less evil like Claire Stanford. He's cool even though he shouldn't be, and he gets my vote here. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte My vote: Mikura Suzuki I was all set to vote for Lupin based on simply reputation, but the bit I saw of him once didn't exactly impress me, and Key made a decent point in Mikura's favor. It looks like Lupin will dominate this match anyways. Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo My vote: Jin Going with the character I know here, though Hitagi sounds like a worthy contender herself. Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho My vote: Spike Spiegel There's a reason why Spike is a big choice to win this whole tournament. He's awesome. Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin My vote: Erin Going for the character I know and love over a character that has had some good arguments in her faver but has also had a couple people specifically vote against her. Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo My vote: Taisou Duke Togo's write-up just didn't impress me for whatever reason, so I'm voting for Taisou. Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit My vote: Firo Prochainezo Possibly the strongest of the Baccano! candidates in this tournament, I feel he definitely deserves to move on this round. Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club My vote: Alucard Alucard's reputation proceeds him. Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo My vote: Yang Wen Li Alberto looks cooler, but the arguments for Yang have impressed me more. Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise My vote: Saeko Busujima This vote presented something of a problem for me. I really like Xellos, and think he's a deserving candidate, but from what I've seen of her Saeko is a bit more deserving. But 95% of what I've seen of Saeko is from the manga, so it doesn't count. But based on the 2 episodes of the anime I've seen and some of the arguments in her favor, I'm fairly certain that the anime version of Saeko is herself a strong candidate, so she gets the vote. Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise My vote: Motoko Kusanagi Poor Kakashi, getting stuck with Motoko in the first round. Both are bad-ass, both are cool, but I like Motoko a bit more. Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! My vote: Dark Schneider I was going to vote for Scar, despite Schneider's reputation, but some of the arguments for him made me reconsider. It's a tough choice, but I'm giving DS the slight edge here. Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross My vote: Shizuo Heiwajima When a headless, seemingly immortal fairy from celtic lore is impressed and at times even a little freaked out by you, despite you being a "normal" human, you know you're bad-ass. Shizuo all the way here. Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied My vote: Honoka No contest here. Even completely ignoring the Nyu aspect of her, I just don't find Lucy very bad-ass. It's not as if she doesn't have the fighting skills to be bad-ass, but in my view, to cross the line from simply being really strong to being bad-ass, you need something more. A certain style or attitude or something. Lucy lacks that, at least in my opinion. Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler My vote: Sebastien Michaelis Basing this on guide entries/comments. Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise My vote: Kamina Poor Batou. Kamina is pretty much nothing but cool and bad-ass, in show full of over the top coolness and bad-assery. |
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso Porco Rosso I honestly don't see how the heck Ladd Russo could beat Porco Rosso. Russo is just not cool. He's badass, sure. But cool? How can this psychopath be cool? Sociopaths can be cool, but not psychopaths really. And come on, if Porco was a real guy, he'd be one of the coolest friends you could possibly have. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte Lupin III Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo Jin. I'm going to vote for Jin here, but it could go either way really. Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho Spike Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin Erin Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo Duke Togo Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit Miyata. Hmm, kind of a toss up for me. Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club Alucard Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo Yang Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise Saeko. I don't really remember Xellos, so that counts against him. All the arguments tend to say he's a jerk. I think certain kinds of jerks can be cool, but not what has been described of him. But it really wouldn't matter anyway. Saeko is both cool and composed and extremely badass anyway. Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise Mokoto Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! Dark Schneider I haven't seen Bastard!!, but from everything I've heard about him and the little I've seen from youtube, he was friggin amazing. Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross Shizuo. I'm sorry, I'm not voting for a guy with the name Maximilen Jenius. Totally uncool name. Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied Honoka. I think Lucy is really cool, but I'm having trouble separating her from Nyuu. Haven't seen the Third, but for now that will do. Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler Suitengu Voting for the underdog here, because he certainly deserves a few votes. Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise Kamina. I still think Gurren Lagann is the most overrated thing on the planet, but I'll grant you that people's love for Kamina is not overrated. |
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The Naked Beast
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Group D-1
Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso My votes goes to: Ladd Russo. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte My votes goes to: Mikura Suzuki. Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo My votes goes to: Hitagi Senjourgahara. Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho My votes goes to: Spike Spiegel. Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin My votes goes to: Erin. Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo My votes goes to: Duke Togo. Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit My votes goes to: Firo Prochainezo. Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club My votes goes to: Kyouya Ootari. Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo My votes goes to: Yang Wen Li. Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise My votes goes to: Saeko Busujima. Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise My votes goes to: Motoko Kusanagi. Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! My votes goes to: Scar. Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross My votes goes to: Shizuo Heiwajima. Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied My votes goes to: Honoka. Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler My votes goes to: Sebastien Michaelis. Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise The words "impossible", "fear", and "hesitation" are not in Kamina's dictionary. Nor are "tactics" and "common sense." But it is this gun-ho attitude and charisma which draws people to him especially Simon. One such example is when hijacks a Gunmen just because he wants one. But the Gunmen's system rejects him as the pilot. However, with the threat of death upon him, Kamina wills the Gunmen to accept him as the pilot. He then successfully fends off his assailants and thus begins the fight for freedom. With this momentous victory, the Gunmen is renamed "Gurren." It is this over-the-top macho, fight or flight, depiction of masculinity and his trademark phrase, "Who the hell do you think I am?!" is seen as a symbol of confidence. This is actually contagious as other characters do this as a tribute to their leader. My votes goes to: Kamina. |
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While it does lead to a few overly aggressive fights here and there...I still believe that one of the consistently interesting (and entertaining) consequences of these tournaments happens to be how the fact there is no such thing as an universal definition of "coolness" (or heroism, for that matter) is regularly confirmed. Granted, there are some general standards in the official guidelines but they're still very open to personal interpretation.
Enough of that though....here are the votes. Group D-1 Ladd Russo, Baccano! vs. Marco Pagot/Porco Rosso, Porco Rosso Voting for: Porco Rosso I'm actually not too much of a Ladd fan myself (as opposed to, say, a fan of Claire), but nevertheless still found him to be a consistently entertaining character. Having said that, I'm voting for Porco Rosso mostly as a matter of principle and due to the fact a couple of relatively good arguments have been presented by previous posters. Group D-2 Arsene Lupin, Lupin III franchise vs. Mikura Suzuki, Mezzo DSA, Mezzo Forte Voting for: Arsene Lupin What little I saw of Mikura didn't leave much of an impression on me, to be quite honest, so I'll gladly give Lupin the support that he rightfully deserves as a classic and effective character archetype. It's a good thing we're only talking about the anime version of the guy though, not the one from the original manga (which may or may not be just as cool on paper, depending on your perspective, but sure loses a lot of sympathy points in the process). Group D-3 Hitagi Senjourgahara, Bakemonogatari vs. Jin, Samurai Champloo Voting for: Jin Not my favorite character from the show, but I guess Jin's alright for this round. Admittedly, I'm not especially inclined to consistently vote for any of the two in the long run, or at least not at this point in time. Group D-4 Spike Spiegel, Cowboy Bebop vs. Genkai, Yu Yu Hakusho Voting for: Spike Spiegel I do feel a bit sorry for Genkai here, since it's pretty much a given that Spike is going to get very far in this tournament. Group D-5 Atsuko Chiba/Paprika, Paprika vs. Erin, Beast Player Erin Voting for: Paprika Group D-6 Duke Togo, Golgo 13 vs. Taisou, Giant Robo Voting for: Taisou I do not expect him to survive against the invincible Mr. Togo, of all people, but Taisou managed to pull off some very impressive feats in Giant Robo that are worthy of admiration and considering I'm not going to vote for Alberto over Yang...he deserves at least a bit of recognition. Group D-7 Firo Prochainezo, Baccano! vs. Ichiro Miyata, Fighting Spirit Voting for: Firo Prochainezo Group D-8 Alucard, Hellsing franchise vs. Kyouya Ootari, Ouran High School Host Club Voting for: Alucard As much as he might not necessarily be the most interesting character in Hellsing, Alucard definitely isn't a pushover as far as sheer coolness goes. Group D-9 Yang Wen Li Legend of the Galactic Heroes vs. Alberto, Giant Robo Voting for: Yang Wen Li I've been in something of a bind because both characters belong to a couple of my favorite shows, period, but a choice still has to be made. And that is why, in the end, Yang's stronger characterization wins out over Alberto's undeniable credentials as a memorable badass. Not to mention that he is, in fact, the best strategist in the show and this adds more than a little additional coolness to an already solid choice. Even as a Reinhard fan myself, I can't justify not voting for him here. Group D-10 Saeko Busujima, High School of the Dead vs. Xellos, Slayers franchise Voting for: Saeko Busujima No particular reason, to be honest, since I don't feel terribly confident about either pick myself. Group D-11 Motoko Kusanagi, Ghost in the Shell franchise vs. Kakashi Hatake, Naruto franchise Voting for: Motoko Kusanagi Group D-12 Scar, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood vs. Dark Schneider, Bastard!! Voting for: Dark Schneider Group D-13 Shizuo Heiwajima, Durarara!! vs. Maximilien Jenius, Super Dimension Fortress Macross Voting for: Shizuo Heiwajima Group D-14 Honoka, The Third: The Girl With The Blue Eye vs. Lucy, Elfen Lied Voting for: Honoka Group D-15 Chouji Suitengu, Speed Grapher vs. Sebastien Michaelis, Black Butler Voting for: Sebastien Michaelis Group D-16 Kamina, Gurren Lagann vs. Batou, Ghost in the Shell franchise Voting for: Kamina As much as I've never been a Kamina fan at all...it seems rather hard to justify voting against him this time around, in a tournament that is more or less tailored towards the kind of character he represents. Having said that, I am a fan of Simon though...which means I'm willing to recognize Kamina as someone who did provide a few good inspirational moments, not to mention cool battle sequences, and remained a clear in-universe influence long after his time in the spotlight had ended. I have nothing against Batou, either way, but...I just wish he had stood against someone else. |
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Round 1: Group D (Mixed) is now closed.
We went into the last of the 24 votes with the potential for one tie, but that did not happen. Though several matches ended up tighter than they initially appeared that they might be, everyone who was leading at the 15-vote mark maintained their lead to the end. Results: D-1: Ladd Russo hangs on against a late surge by Porco Rosso, 13-11. D-2: Arsene Lupin crushes Mikura Suzuki, 20-4. D-3: Jin takes out Hitagi Senjourgahara, 15-9. D-4: Spike Spiegel slams Genkai, 21-3. D-5: Atsuko Chiba/Paprika fends off Erin, 13-11. D-6: Duke Togo assassinates Taisou, 15-9. D-7: Firo Prochainezo knocks out Ichiro Miyata, 18-6. D-8: Alucard eliminates Kyouya Ootari, 17-7. D-9: Yang Wen Li outclasses Alberto, 19-5. D-10: Saeko Busujima slashes down Xellos, 15-9. D-11: Motoko Kusanagi ghost-hacks Kakashi Hatake, 20-4. D-12: Dark Schneider laughs over Scar's corpse, 18-6. D-13: Shizuo Heiwajima buries Maximilen Jenius under a vending machine, 15-9. D-14: Honoka sword-dances on Lucy, 17-7. D-15: Sebastian Michaelis put Chouji Suitengu in his place, 18-6. D-16: Kamina defeats Batou, 14-10. I'm amazed that Porco Rosso got close enough at the end to make things interesting for Ladd, but overall I found the results to be pretty predictable. Looks like we've got some intriguing match-ups for next round, including the Motoko/Dark Schneider match-up, which I personally think will decide who claims the bottom half of the bracket. Anyway, on to Round 2! |
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Key
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Round 2 Group A: The Bad-Asses is now closed.
Final results can be found here. So now we’re cycling back to more pure bad-assery. I still think we have room for some blow-outs here, but I am personally expecting A-21 and especially A-23 to be very interesting. Group A-17 Balalaika, Black Lagoon vs. Kambei Shimba, Samurai 7 Group A-18 Izumi Curtis, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. Eikichi Onizuka, GTO Group A-19 Michiko Malandro , Michiko to Hatchin vs. Roy Mustang, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise Group A-20 Simon, Gurren Lagann vs. Guts, Berserk Group A-21 Teresa, Claymore vs. Claire Stanfield, Baccano! Group A-22 Brandon/Beyond the Grave, Gungrave vs. Black Jack, Black Jack Group A-23 Kenpachi Zaraki, Bleach vs. Roronoa Zoro, One Piece Group A-24 Hei, Darker Than BLACK vs. Mugen, Samurai Champloo Last edited by Key on Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:26 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Key
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Group A-17
Balalaika, Black Lagoon vs. Kambei Shimba, Samurai 7 I'll watch arguments on this one, but so far I have not seen any support for Kambei strong enough to unseat the ice-cold leader of Roanupur's Hotel Moscow branch. Balalaika. Group A-18 Izumi Curtis, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. Eikichi Onizuka, GTO A more interesting - and possibly competitive - match, but I think there's a clear choice here. As tough as Izumi is, and as bad-ass as she's made out to be, she doesn't live and breath the attitude of a bad-ass like Onizuka does. Group A-19 Michiko Malandro , Michiko to Hatchin vs. Roy Mustang, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise I'm not all that crazy about voting Mustang into the third round, so show me some arguments compelling enough to change my mind, Michiko supporters! Group A-20 Simon, Gurren Lagann vs. Guts, Berserk If this match wasn't specifically in the bad-ass category then it might be worth entertaining arguments here, but only one or two others in the entire tournament can stand against Guts when it comes to being a bad-ass, and even with his universe-level antics at the end of the series, Simon isn't one of them. Group A-21 Teresa, Claymore vs. Claire Stanfield, Baccano! One of the two difficult matches of this round for me to pick. This is a remarkably even match, as both are top-of-their-series'-heap killers and both are quite capable of doing so with style. Both can also rightly claim to be cool even without considering their bad-ass merits. I have to give the edge to Teresa, though. Her abilities, relative to her series' power structure, are even more bad-ass than Claire's, and I feel that, in this case, her not being a psycopath also gives her an advantage. The true deciding factor, though, is that she doesn't hesitate to take action to save someone she's come to care about even though she knows that said actions will sign her own death warrant. Whether you look at it in a Bad-Ass sense or a Generic Cool sense, that's pretty damn cool. Group A-22 Brandon/Beyond the Grave, Gungrave vs. Black Jack, Black Jack Wow, do I not care at all here, especially since both of these just barely slipped by their first round opponents. Black Jack in lieu of strong comparative arguments to the contrary. Group A-23 Kenpachi Zaraki, Bleach vs. Roronoa Zoro, One Piece Characters from two popular shonen action series going head-to-head, eh? While I deeply respect the "fight with a third sword in your mouth" approach of Zoro, Kenpachi is the very essence of what it means to have a bad-ass attitude. In a series loaded with bravado, he still stands out. Group A-24 Hei, Darker Than BLACK vs. Mugen, Samurai Champloo Is Hei bad-ass enough to take out Mugen? Um, no. He has some nice moves but just doesn't impress enough. |
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And so Alberto falls, far, far too early. At least I'll know that he'll always be the champion of my heart
For me, being cool or badass is a combination of three factors: attitude, ability and most importantly confidence. The attitude part can vary widely, as long as it makes the character memorable, but the other two are essential for me to consider a character cool. Anyway, my votes: Group A-17 Balalaika, Black Lagoon vs. Kambei Shimba, Samurai 7 Balalaika. Kambei is cool and all, but other than his ability to cut even battleships in half he's got nothing on Balalaika. BTW, her picture is still broken, Key. Group A-18 Izumi Curtis, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise vs. Eikichi Onizuka, GTO Izumi Curtis. I've always thought that Onizuka was more annoying than badass, but I'm not particularly fond of Izumi either, so I might chance my vote if someone provides good arguments. Group A-19 Michiko Malandro, Michiko to Hatchin vs. Roy Mustang, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise Michiko Malandro. I'll give Michiko the benefit of doubt here, since despite his abilities I've never found Roy to be particularly cool or badass, certainly nowhere near the level of Scar. Group A-20 Simon, Gurren Lagann vs. Guts, Berserk Guts. I'd pick Simon over many other candidates (even Kamina) any day, but even his reality breaking powers cannot match Guts sheer badassery. Even discounting his most awesome manga-only feats as demon hunter supreme, he's still a stonecold badass, born and bred on the battlefield and loving every minute of it. Group A-21 Teresa, Claymore vs. Claire Stanfield, Baccano! Claire Stanfield. The top pick of Baccano!, IMHO. Unwavering confidence and megalomania, backed by supreme gymnastic ablity, allowing him to effortlessly take on anything and anyone, up to and including immortals and other psychopaths, and doing so completely unarmed.. Group A-22 Brandon/Beyond the Grave, Gungrave vs. Black Jack, Black Jack Black Jack. Group A-23 Kenpachi Zaraki, Bleach vs. Roronoa Zoro, One Piece Roronoa Zoro. Not too familiar with either, but the constant critisims of Bleach and praise for One Piece convince me to give Zoro my vote for now. Plus being able to effectively wield a sword in your mouth IS pretty badass. Group A-24 Hei, Darker Than BLACK vs. Mugen, Samurai Champloo Mugen Last edited by Generic #757858 on Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:22 am; edited 4 times in total |
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Group A-17 Balalaika
Group A-18 Eikichi Onizuka Izumi was too much of a frustrated mother. Very superficial in brotherhood, and too melodramatic in the first. Group A-19 Roy Mustang Group A-20 Guts Group A-21 Claire Stanfield Tough one. I'll choose Claire mostly because Claymore didn't really handle Teresa's potential to its fullest. Group A-22 Brandon/Beyond the Grave Group A-23 Roronoa Zoro Easy choice. I have a long lasting beef with Kenpachi's shallowness, and I just can't buy his crap. Bleach just made him indestructible. Even after Ichigo supposedly beat the crap out of him they came up with the fact that he just lost because he can't use bankai blah blah blah. Either way, it's mostly because of his shallowness that I stand against him. On the other hand, his opponent isn't just as badass (but less ignorant and arrogant), but he's been through a fair amount of development, suffered mortal wounds for his friends and dream of becoming the world's top swordsman. Group A-24 Mugen Although I'd love to see Hei up against Zoro. Next match will be very interesting, unless Kenpachi gets by, which wouldn't be a surprise given Bleach's popularity with the tournament's participants. |
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Group A-17] Kambei Shimba, Samurai 7
Group A-18 Eikichi Onizuka, GTO Having just finished FMA, Izumi is cool, but I can't honestly say she's as awesome as Onizuka. Group A-19 Roy Mustang, Fullmetal Alchemist franchise Also having finished the first FMA, Mustang is pretty damn cool, possibly the coolest character in the entire first series. Group A-20 Simon, Gurren Lagann I think that by the end of the series, Simon even out badasses Kamina, who is already quite badass. Part of it is that yes he starts off as a wimp, but he really comes into his own, I can respect that more than just being born badass in many ways. Group A-21 Claire Stanfield, Baccano! I've said it before and I'll say it again, Baccano! is chock full of badass characters and I find Claire to be the most badass of the badass for a number of reasons. One is his incredible acrobatic skills, another is his willingness to kill people in fun and interesting ways, and third is that he does it all spoiler[despite not being an immortal, so any damage he'd get would be for keeps] Group A-22 Black Jack, Black Jack Group A-23 Roronoa Zoro, One Piece Group A-24 Mugen, Samurai Champloo |
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