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Los Nido
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I never watched Progressive or Alternative because the idea of an FLCL sequel was unappealing to me. When Grunge and Shoegaze were announced it was kind of surprising. The original series was such a lighting-in-a-bottle scenario that seeing it go from 1 series to 5 was kind of astounding.
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dabanbo
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None of the sequels were Fooly OR Cooly, they were all Gruel-y and Drool-y.
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Never_Know_Best
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Lol maybe he finally learned that Gainax effectively stole Tsurumaki’s work.
Frankly, the entire run of sequels has had a sketchy, run-down production and media presence. Always left a bad taste in my mouth whenever I caught a little whiff. Prog and Alt were admittedly pretty at points, but oh so hollow both narratively and aesthetically. Even The Pillows have sounded tired, excepting the decent jam Spiky Seeds. Last edited by Never_Know_Best on Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Errinundra
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Thread cleaned up.
Talk about the show; not each other. |
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residentgrigo
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Who the hell releases a 3-ep 60-minute TV show? Back to back! Anyone could have guessed at that point that the gas ran out. |
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InfiniteNothingness
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Great news.
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BadNewsBlues
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I mean to be fair the original series was 6 episodes. Which was really unusual in a medium where shows are typically 12 or 26 episodes.
I liked the original anime (indifferent to the manga) but I would never say either one was perfect. |
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Arale Kurashiki
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It's a recurring number for an OVA, quite pointedly the same number as Gunbuster (and later Diebuster) which are very connected to FLCL. Other examples include Shamanic Princess, Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai, War in the Pocket, Mahou Tsukai Tai. There's quite a lot of 3 episode OVAs too, though I do think these new FLCLs might have been underfunded, since surely the staff would have had 6 episodes in mind after it's been established as a pattern, right? |
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BluesPro
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The original series was an OVA that wasn't made to run on television. |
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residentgrigo
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An OVA getting to ep 6 is in itself a statistical achievement, especially if it is 100% original, and the original was partially made to test the staff and tech. A limited run by design and releases over just 11 months. Gainax had more money than god for a hot second but was also insanely mismanaged as we found out later. FLCL was also released at the tail end of the OVA boom, arguably after it ended even. Midnight Anime made the concept a bit obsolete and more or less started to become a trend around release. Most anime are that now of course, with streaming shows also kinda fitting the mold.
What I am getting at here is that FLCL belongs to a very different age of this medium. Getting IG back was the right move as the Gainax side moved on, outside of Gainax going bust, but IG dropping the ball this hard is still a bit of a mystery. IG is one of the few studios with standards. Who knows. |
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Aura Ichadora
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In a bit of a minority on here, but I'm actually a bit sad by the news. Have the sequels been as good as the original series? No. But I don't feel like they are as bad as folks try to make them out to be. Progressive was a fun ride, Alternative a bit less so but still enjoyable, Grunge's animation was a bit clunky but I loved the story they told (especially in the 3rd episode), and the 1st episode of Shoegaze definitely had me intrigued and looking forward to the rest. Would I ever count them as a favorite? Again, no. But I'm not against rewatching them every once in awhile. Yes, the original is by and far the best, but I don't think I could rank any of the sequels below a 7. And to me, a 7 is great.
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Philmister978
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I mean if we're being fair towards Toonami, AS as a whole is a mess. It's just another in a long line of "Should have stopped when it had the chance" projects they have. I also think the reason why people don't blame I.G as much is because to most people, they think the animation studio is just that - the contractor being hired to animate AS's crap like most of their other titles. They fail to get that I.G is the one who co-created FLCL to begin with, own the copyright, and are the ones who roped AS into making the four followups. I mentioned this over in the Grunge review thread, but I.G is not the same studio it was in the 2000s, and neither is AS. And none of the followups to the original feature anything that made either party good in the first place - I.G is clearly treating it as a low-priority title from the start (made all the more obvious when you look at their output as of late with heavy hitters and higher profile titles like Heavenly Delusion, B: The Beginning and the still-ongoing Haikyuu and Psycho Pass franchises, plus a Kinikuman revival among other things), and AS has a brand of humor that doesn't vibe with the zany wackiness FLCL is prone to engage in; wacky and bizarre sure, but a different breed of it. Mix them together and you have the mess you have in front of you. Now if only AS canceled Rick & Morty, both the main series and the upcoming anime tie-in, in the process... Last edited by Philmister978 on Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:44 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Ashabel
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Their problem isn't that they're good or bad, their problem is that they're completely pointless. Eiji Enokidoh repeatedly went on record that he's never going to write a sequel for FLCL; he did sort of write one anyway in Diebuster, which inherits most of FLCL's terminology and tech talk, but he was very explicit with his intent to never make a direct sequel to it. We didn't need to know what happened to anyone from the original cast after the show, neither did we need any of the lore deep dives by mercenary writers none of whom ever produced an original script (you can look them up if you don't believe me), because that wasn't the point of the show. All four sequels were just made to make money for people who never actually worked on the original series, and that sure shows. |
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Dr. Wily
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Our long national nightmare is over.
Like in the end, I respect/understand the experiment. I'm sure all of us have series we love and wish we could have a sequel to or just have more of in any way, Jason DeMarco just actually had the resources to make it happen, so good for him I guess. And I actually liked Alternative even if a lot of it was just kinda genderflipped original FLCL. The rest though have just ranged from mediocre to actively bad, so I'm definitely glad the franchise is now dead for good (or will be next week when the last episode comes out). |
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