Forum - View topicNEWS: 20-Year Veteran Anime Technical Director Reports 100,000-Yen Monthly Salary
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luffypirate
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I'd do it. I've got the skills. Sign me up.
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CandisWhite
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Each anime is considered a separate project, another income source or "salary": The headline is not misleading if he receives that payment for each job separately; He essentially has to work 2 full-time jobs, at the same time, to earn a basic living wage. The payments from Job A and Job B are not mixed; McDonald's is not suddenly paying someone $40 000/year because that person has another full-time $20 000 job at A&W. Household income and salary/wages are 2 separate things. To work on an anime is full-time work; He is getting about $1000/month for full-time employment which, if he works a regular 160 hrs/ month, is $6.25/hr; He needs another job just to live : The intended reaction to the article still stands. His ritziest gig was about $3000/month or $18.75/hr, if he worked a regular 40 hr. workweek. Here are some Canadian numbers, circa Sept. 2015:
Research done by me and posted 2 years ago. My Little Pony is one show; That is the wages/salary for one job. You're right: $1000/month for a, probably beyond, full-time job is ridiculously low. |
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vallum
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They're not free! Where have you heard about that? |
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Megiddo
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A salary refers to a consistent income agreed upon between the employer and employee that is paid out over a consistent interval. This director does not have a salary. It is not consistent. Just because you have an income source does not mean you have a salary. A person with an hourly wage is not a salaried worker. Their payment depends on the number of hours that they work. A freelancer or contract worker is not a salaried worker. Their payment depends on the contract that they negotiate with each project they work on. That is not consistent. The headline states that this director has a 100,000 yen monthly salary. That is not true as I have already explained extensively. |
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jtstellar
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i support a doujin artist on patreon $3 a month that now makes a total monthly about the same no doubt with much less animation skill/experience as this person.. things are possible, it's year 2017, go indie and start a patreon page or something, it probably takes minutes. i empathize, but at some point you gotta be responsible for not using your creative independent spirit.
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residentgrigo
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His highest salary ever of 2,7 k is about my past salary, before tax. Germany lovers it´s taxes, so i "loose" about 35% to important social welfare stuff. My upcoming salary bracket will even be above his highest one, once my Bachelor is done next year. That is crazy for putting in 20 years! I only needed a 3 year apprenticeship to make 3 times what he makes on an average project, with a fixed work week of 39 hours.
What´s his week like? 80+ hours? I also get a double salary on Christmas and other fun stuff, as 30+ days off. Such "bonuses" will forgo him too... I get that an anime / manga newbie will be exploited as he is, as i held deeply questionable short term jobs too when i started off, but 20 years in hell and then this. For an episode director of the "award winning" SEED  . My condolences.
I will admit though that he could have stepped away too. I for example read that games pay more and these also need animators. As do commercials. He should be able to land a position in such a field. Hm. An interring feature would be to find out how residuals work in the anime or manga industry. A case by case basis will most likely be the answer. The US comics industry was and somewhat remains stingy in that aspect. The creators of Superman and Batman´s original writer are infamous for their bad luck and highly questionable treatment. So it´s not just a Japanese problem. Nishimura at least got credited. |
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KH91
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Just goes to show how we should be appreciating anime.
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Swissman
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Poor guy, a monthly salary of 2,7 k is really low considering his experience & long japanese work hours. That's even lower than my current monthly salary and I only have a 30% part-time job. Once I finish my master's degree and work full-time, income would be around 100 k per year before tax (incl. bonus). But then again, cost of living in Switzerland is very high and not really comparable to Japan's. Still, a yearly income of 25-30 k for a japanese man in his 40s/50s is rather low. I wish Anime's creative force would get fairer wages and more time to rest.
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leeoflittlefaith
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Provided he doesn't take many holidays (I assume he doesn't), he earns about as much as an entry level foreign assistant language teacher in Japan. Y'know, not exactly a job that requires veteran level experience.
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A Man named RJ
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The anime bubble is just about to pop.
And Im looking VERY forward to it. there is WAY too much [crap] being made nowadays. The death of original ideas, the OVER abundance of crappy light novel adaptations, and the industry eats animators, directors, and producers alive they're taking their lives or sleeping and never waking up again due to overworking. Much like video games the market wont sustain for very much longer. Larger studios like Toei, Bones, and TMS will survive easily, but the number of anime being made needs to cull, or else we're in for tweened anime*. and a completely dead industry aside from maybe 4-8 productions a year *What is "tweened" anime? Non-animators call it "FLASH" though thats a misnomer as animation done in flash can look quite good https://sakugabooru.com/data/e05f6460bbeeb26fd6044ba0abc788e8.mp4 That, and Tweened animation can be done in a number of programs from Anime Studio, to Toonboom, to After effects to Photoshop. "Tweening" is simply the act of applying bones and moving digital puppet characters as opposed to drawing and redrawing the image over and over again. |
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mangamuscle
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Quoted just in case I need the reference in one, two, five or ten years. This low salaries have been there before many in this forum members were even born, the only difference is that the internet makes plausible for it to become news. So unless north korea launches a nuke that creates an EMP, we will continue to have our anime fix. |
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A Man named RJ
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Actually it's not the salaries that are the problem here. it';s the number of shows being made vs the animators. Theres too much demand and not enough supply |
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mangamuscle
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Then by the law of supply and demand the salaries in the anime production industry will slowly start to raise, which has nothing to do with "The anime bubble is just about to pop". |
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