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ArsenicSteel
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Spending money is just one way to show ones enthusiasm about anime.
Just like all of those things you mentioned in your first post, just different ways to express ones fandom. None of which are qualifications or requirements to be a fan. |
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LordRedhand
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If true than any casual viewer could be considered an anime fan, for example my younger brother who likes to watch Vampire Hunter D would by your definition be an anime fan even though a.) he does not self identify as one and b.) does not buy anything of his own but watches what others like myself and my older brother have purchased. Casual viewers are not active a fan wants to be and play an active part in the anime process, this includes making new fans, supporting companies/artists/directors works and convincing others in such a way that those companies/artists/directors can continue to provide what we like, which is anime. If all they are doing is watching and enjoying, while part of being a fan, doesn't move past that portion is being a passive participant. i.e. an anime watcher and nothing more. Being a fan requires (as the word shorten from fanatic) require a bit more of devotion and enthusiasm than just watching and enjoying. @EireFormContinent learn if statements... |
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Boomerang Flash
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I guess I use a relatively elitist definition by the messages in this post, because I do use two criteria designed to exclude.
1. The person must like anime in general. This does not mean he must like every anime or every genre of anime. The requirement is far looser. It just means he can't have a very narrow focus. For examples: a. Someone who just follows a particular series or franchise. These are Naruto fans, or Dragon Ball Z fans, or Gundam Fans, not anime fans. b. Someone who just watches Ghibli films. As nicely made as they are, it's just one studio with a particular art style, and they're all movies. c. Someone who is just going through the anime from his childhood. I do this often, but it's someone reliving his childhood memories, not watching anime in general. However, if he does expand to explore anime from that time period that he didn't watch as a child, then it's sufficient. 2. The person needs to know he is watching anime. This just means he needs to know that there is such a subdivison of animation, and that it's what he's watching. He doesn't need to actively look for anime. He doesn't need to subscribe to any particular definition of anime, as long as the definition acknowledges the Japanese origin in a somehwat correct manner. He certainly doesn't need to know anything about Japan outsourcing animation to Korea or America outsourcing to Japan and how to classify those cases. |
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ArsenicSteel
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There is no definition of fanatic that specifies that a fan has to show their enthusiasm in the ways you state.
Be careful when you try to interpret what I mean by saying "all one needs to do is to watch, enjoy, and be enthusiastic about anime to consider oneself an anime fan" It does not say a person that watched and enjoyed one movie is now a fan. Also using the use of the word enthusiastic is meant to be open ended, not some personal check list you and the guy the OP was talking about to be enforced. There is no way to list the qualifications of being a fan because no such list exists. |
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Flame-G102
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A Fan?
Sure. Fan: an implement of feathers, leaves, paper, cloth, etc., often in the shape of a long triangle or of a semicircle, for waving lightly in the hand to create a cooling current of air about a person Oh wait- wrong fan... Fan. "Fans usually have a strong enough interest that some changes in their lifestyles are made to accommodate devotion to the focal object. As well, fans have a desire for external involvement - are motivated to demonstrate their involvement with the area of interest through certain behaviors (attending conventions, posting online, etc.). Fans often have a "wish to acquire" material objects related to the area of interest, such as a baseball hit by a famous slugger or a used guitar pick from their musical hero. As well, some fans have a desire for social interaction with other fans. This again may take many forms, from casual conversation, e-mail, chat rooms, and electronic mailing lists to regular face-to-face meetings such as fan club meetings and organized conventions. There are several groups of fans that can be differentiated by the intensity level of their level of involvement or interest in the hobby (level of fanaticism) The likelihood for a subject of interest to be elevated to the level of fandom appears to be dictated by its complexity. Complexity allows further involvement of fans for a longer period of time because of the time needed to work the subject of interest 'out.' It also contributes to a greater sense of belonging because of the mental effort invested in the subject." |
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PetrifiedJello
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Oh, trust me, King. You're definitely a fan, damn near borderline otaku, Mr. Lucky Star Shirt Wearing Dude. 
But I stand by my words. People who watch without really investing in the series is an admirer. I should point out if anyone buys merchandise, they're a fan. Truth be told, I don't know much of the Japanese side either. I like to play a great game titled "Guess who this Japanese VA is then get bitched slapped when it's not who you think it is and good luck trying to distinguish them in the future." I lose every time. 
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IncompetentOverlord
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I define a fan like this: Someone who is knowledgeable and enthusiastic about at least a small core group of shows by different creators and displays at least some obsessive behavior. (Posting regularly on a forum counts.) Someone who only watches Naruto or stuff based off of Leiji Matsumoto manga is not an anime fan. I won't deny that they are fans of Naruto or Leiji Matsumoto, but they are not anime fans.
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Darc_knight
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Why are all Americans so fixated on being labeled or labeling others? WHy don't u all just live life and enjoy it. Ignore the stupid labels like being a fan or otaku and just be urself; do what u want to do without the ridiculous notion of the word.
IN my pov ur sister is a anime nerd/fan girl but its cool. SHe likes to color and watch subs/that is what she enjoys; and based on that considers herself to be a fan/ ok if that's how it is; so be it... no need to prolong discussion. |
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DuskyPredator
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I always thought of a fan as someone who enjoys a specific topic, and activly seeks it out. So if you enjoy anime in general and activly seek to watch it, then you are an anime fan, it doesn't require you devote your life to it, or be involved in the other devisions such as websites or fanfic.
And I guess if you only really watch one series, you are a fan of that series. Or you could broaden your personal fan level by certain genre you particulary enjoy and might seek them out because it fit your favourite genre, like being a "shounen anime fan", "mecha anime fan", or even "KyoAni fan". Personally I often seek out romantic comedy anime as genre that would make me more likely to watch, so I am also a "romantic comedy anime fan". |
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DuelLadyS
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If you enjoy anime and put some effort into seeing more of it on a regular basis, you are a fan. It's that simple. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences and entirely debatable.
So, is your friend a 'fan'? Yes. However, I imagine most folks 'round these parts would label him something else as well- a thief. I mean really, 10 years and not ONE bloody purchase? That takes an active investment in NOT spending money on something you claim you adore and want more of. You friend is the worst kind of anime fan... the kind who apprently thinks these shows are being made especially for him out of the goodness of the creator's hearts. The next time he complains about something he likes getting cancelled, point out they must not have had enough sales.
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kiddtic
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I really believe there should be a distinction between a casual viewer and an anime fan.
Example 1. I often play Table Tennis at school because the facilities are avalaible.However, given the choice between playing XBOX and Table Tennis I would pick XBOX. I also dont actively seek or make any effort to know more about this sport, heck I dont even know how to fix the net on properly. On the other hand, I buy game mags to check previews and make a note of what I should buy next, I also spend nights without sleep marathoning with friends. I play Table Tennis atleast 3 days a week at school. I play my XBOX atleast 6 days a week. From the above scenario I deduce that I can't be called a TT fan because I dont actively seek it out. I do enjoy it though. Regarding the spending of money on Anime. I think ths is something that is inevitable for a fan. The process of seeking out more and more Anime will often ignite a longing for that figure, shirt, accessory, DVD,manga, Con Ticket e.t.c. You cant get everything for free. Heck I grew up in Zambia where even finding popular Ghibli films was as rare as finding weapons of MD in Iraq :-p lol point is they nearly didn't exist. But I spent money on sattelite TV that had BNIMAX for the last couple of years I was there. Getting back to the source topic. Extremist or Over- enthusiastic fans shall always exist. They SHOULD NOT be used as the borderline description for fan though. |
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eyeresist
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Anyone who posts to an anime-topic forum is a fan. Anyone tries to accuse another forum poster of not being a real fan is a douche.
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RHachicho
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Yup I agree with that completely. Catagorising fandom is just another strutting display of ego and an insult to the rich variety of human's that walk the planet. You can't get a big stamp and mark people as "otaku" "fan" or "casual fan" everyone is different.
Next we will be weighing the importance of posters on this forum by the number of posts they have jeez. |
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eriko0640
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Well in my opinion a fan is anyone who supports the thing/person they like and will want to continue to see more works being done by buying things to keep supporting it. It dosnt matter how u show it just you know as long as you contribute to the cause!!!
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Parsifal24
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For me a fan is someone who has a love, appreciation, and knowledge of Anime or Manga and bothers to educate themselves on the history the different genres, types, and artistes and companies that create it. Or it can be just as simple as expressing your opinions on it. I write Anime and Manga reviews on my blog for fun for instance. None of them are particularly good but I love doing it because it gives me a chance to express my opinion about something I like. Or I go out of my way to support artists and companies I like such as Clamp.
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