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Shiki MSHTS
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:53 pm
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Haha. Fairfax County. =P
60 percent of all cartoons worldwide? That kinda suprised me a little. Eh.
Quote: | On the Internet, hits for the Japanese anime character Sailor Moon totaled 3,335,000, compared with 491,000 for Mickey Mouse, according to Tokyo-based Marubeni Research Institute.
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It's a good thing that Mickey Mouse lacks sex appeal. =P
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vherub
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:20 pm
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that wapo describes howl as "a glittering homegrown epic of an 18-year-old girl transformed into a 90-year-old woman" is a strike against it (from a marketing standpoint). Any movie that would be summarized as such and attempting to target a primarily male 18-34 demo is at a disadvantadge. The same for fare like Millenium Actress. Even if these somehow were not Japanese anime movies, they would be a tough sell to American audiences.
The thing about anime is you cant shoehorn it to any one genre or project. Anime is no more pokemon, than it is Cowboy Bebop, Ninja Scroll or Spirited Away. And each of those might have a dedicated audience, but they still will not capture the person who likes His and Her Circumstances. It would be like trying to lump Titannic, Fried Green Tomatoes and Matrix all together. It is like synecdoche in reverse.
Still, it is only a matter of time before there is that one breakthrough anime movie that cracks $50 mil, shows studios there is a strong market for anime and results in a deluge of releases riding the wave-which would then correct itself, but...
anime the last 5-10 years is making huge progress and while it may be premature to herald the near arrival of blockbuster status (in america), that day is a lot closer than every before.
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Nabeshin_1040
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:02 pm
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Yea.. i get it. there is just the fact that i hate 4kids. if there is an opportunity to knock 'em down i'll take it
Don't take me too seriously...
I'm stupid.
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RabbitRevolution
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:50 pm
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Jadress wrote: | I thought this was one of the more intelligent articles on anime I've read in a while. |
I don't think this is any surprise. The author of this article, Anthony Faiola, has written a bunch of other articles about Japanese culture for the Washington Post (I should know, I read them all ) I guess Faiola is living in Japan right now, so unlike the other clueless journalists who've written articles on anime's "newfound" popularity, he probably had some prior knowledge of his subject. Not that journalists should be required to be familiar with a topic before they're assigned to report on it, but it's nice when they are.
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Stueypark
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:25 pm
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The problem is most anime fans aren't....
Or to put it in something more understandable... Think about all those books you had to read in high school and all the books you read on your own.
The ones you read in school are considered the classics of literature, yet, they don't appeal to most people. The audience for them is a limited literature-appreciation type group. It's the same with anime. Anime fans tend to find appreciation for completely different reasons than most people so for it to be a commercial success it has to be developed for the widest audience.
And that's why Adult Swim is a cable block and 4Kids is a broadcast block.
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AnimeHeretic
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:18 pm
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GATSU wrote: | Ultima: Not really surprised. The Chinese hate the Japanese for warcrimes, and are not normally likely to allow their media into the country. |
IIRC, several anime were brought into China. At least Ranma 1/2 was.
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dormcat
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:22 pm
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AnimeHeretic wrote: |
GATSU wrote: | Ultima: Not really surprised. The Chinese hate the Japanese for warcrimes, and are not normally likely to allow their media into the country. |
IIRC, several anime were brought into China. At least Ranma 1/2 was. |
Well, that's over-the-counter. The truth is, anime fansub and bootleg DVD (US$ .50 per disc) can be found virtually anywhere. My friend bought several dozens of bootleg DVDs in Beijing before coming to US -- too many for him that he doesn't have enough time to watch them. I'm still trying to persuade him to "atone his sin" by buying legit DVDs instead.
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MugenKeiji
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:49 pm
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Stueypark wrote: | The problem is most anime fans aren't....
Or to put it in something more understandable... Think about all those books you had to read in high school and all the books you read on your own.
The ones you read in school are considered the classics of literature, yet, they don't appeal to most people. The audience for them is a limited literature-appreciation type group. It's the same with anime. Anime fans tend to find appreciation for completely different reasons than most people so for it to be a commercial success it has to be developed for the widest audience.
And that's why Adult Swim is a cable block and 4Kids is a broadcast block. |
Adult Swim is a cable block, 4Kids is a LICENSING AND MARKETING company, the FoxBox is a broadcast block.
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Stueypark
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:48 pm
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Sorry, Guess I'm not as familiar with saturday morning cartoons anymore.
But as my original post states, 4Kids probably has one of the largest profit percentage margins in the country. As I recall, the Yu-Gi-Oh movie turned a 500% profit for them.
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AnimeHeretic
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:42 pm
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dormcat wrote: |
AnimeHeretic wrote: |
GATSU wrote: | Ultima: Not really surprised. The Chinese hate the Japanese for warcrimes, and are not normally likely to allow their media into the country. |
IIRC, several anime were brought into China. At least Ranma 1/2 was. |
Well, that's over-the-counter. The truth is, anime fansub and bootleg DVD (US$ .50 per disc) can be found virtually anywhere. My friend bought several dozens of bootleg DVDs in Beijing before coming to US -- too many for him that he doesn't have enough time to watch them. I'm still trying to persuade him to "atone his sin" by buying legit DVDs instead. |
Well, I was referring to being on Chinese TV...
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