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Juno016



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:42 am Reply with quote
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I think it's important to remember (there was another post similar to this in the Abe thread) is that things here aren't 1:1 with Japan at all times. Feminism as seen in the U.S. contains multitudes on different topics and the same will be true for Japan. There are obviously Japanese feminist groups that concern themselves with how female characters are depicted in media (like we saw with Tawawa on Monday) and artists might feel threatened by these groups. They aren't necessarily the same as the feminists involved with #KuToo, or workplace harassment, or paternity leave, or other issues outside of artistic expression.


Very similar, yes! For some more context:

Kind of like the US (which I'm most familiar with), Japan has one broad feminist "movement" that stems from a historical movement in the past for basic freedom rights (there used to be multiple factions, but Raicho's duty-based movement and her magazine won out, so most feminists jumped on board afterward). The victories for women's rights in the workplace and equal financial ownership rights at home and so on are still considered good to most of the general public, but like US feminism, Japanese feminism has mostly spread out into an individual ideology-based movement where feminists more or less just show up for the causes they agree with and stay out of causes they don't, so it's hard to draw lines between exact factions. Thus, when the least-liked feminist critiques come out of the woodwork, they reflect negatively to the public on the reasonable-sounding feminist critiques, too. In rare cases, a few prominent feminists will criticize others within the same movement. Akamatsu-sensei lambasts feminists, but he often cites feminist and Women’s Institute of Contemporary Media Culture (Japan branch) spokesperson Yamada Kumiko, who has, on two separate occasions, spoken outwardly about the lack of evidence of fictional media's impact on women's rights or harm to women. But for the most part, repeated occasions where a group of individual feminists come together to protest the portrayal of girls and women in anime/manga/etc. or that criticize popular music genres (you could make a case for the treatment of idols, at least) or fashion trends for being "too objectifying" have all given the overall movement a bad name. Kinda sucks for the rest of us feminists, but it's not like we're going to shed decades of good work in organizations still working for equality because someone we don't know or care about gives us a bad rep. I haven't seen Akamatsu-sensei particularly criticize anything about feminism except the calls for censorship, mainly because that's his primary political focus, so I'm not quite against his platform by principle yet.

JackInMegaMan wrote:
but he runs kinda on a platform of anime being attacked by the "west" which is something that isn't really happening. It's just stirring up culture war BS and it's tiring to hear the same thing ad nauseum. Most Japanese media doesn't give a damn about the west or any one calling for censorship, it's been shown time and time again. Some Netflix anime that Japan isn't going to watch won't change that sentiment.


If extra context on this helps as well, Akamatsu-sensei and his fellow "Freedom of Expression Party" members currently holding seats have not yet mentioned anything about "culture war" conspiracy nonsense from the West--as far as I'm aware. They tend to respond more publicly to actual attempts by organizations like UNICEF, the UN, publishers looking to branch into global markets (a complex topic where the free business of publishers may restrict the free speech of authors in various ways), and even domestic politicians feeling international pressure to pass censorship bills/laws (or laws that result in more self-censorship to reduce punishment, a la Ishihara's "Fictional Youth" Ordinance Bill 156). The Olympics have been relevant to this discussion for the last decade or so as politicians scrambled to make Japan as presentable to international tourists as possible... which, in retrospect, sucks even more after the last few years. Lol

residentgrigo wrote:
Am I surprised that Akamatsu joined a conservative party that has actual nationalists in it? Like a lot of them. Of course not. I have read his work. Lol. That said, you can´t be campaigning for freedom of speech and art and be in such a political party. Another lying politician. Shocker. You need to be at least center-left or a libertarian (lol) if you want to sound believable in your pursuit of self-expression for all.


I mentioned this before in a thread about Abe, but the amount of people making broad statements about Japanese politics without knowing a single thing about them is concerning. The "conservative party" with "actual nationalists" in it is the LDP, the party that has been so prominently institutionalized that everyone across all political aisles except the idealistically pure will join the party in hopes of having a chance at influencing policy in some way. Nationalists have a pretty strong faction within the party, but the party is split six ways and these six factions often butt heads against each other's proposals and platforms. Other parties do exist, but they often have very little sway and exist functionally to either fill a few seats and vote on LDP proposals, or to act as spokespersons for their ideals (and maybe to make money doing so). I'm only scratching the surface, but if nothing else, Akamatsu-sensei has constantly been critical of LDP politicians. He isn't going to be writing legislation, however. He's going to be holding a seat that allows him and many others to review, critique, edit, and sometimes reject bills being proposed for law. His objective is mostly to vet censorship bills, as per his campaign platform.

I don't know how I feel about Akamatsu-sensei as a politician yet. He has strong convictions against censorship of nearly any kind, though he has said he's willing to discuss bans on things like lolicon if there is enough evidence to confidently point to harm being done causally. He's talked a bit about feminism and affirmative action, but he's been limited in scope with both to media. He's going to be involved with a lot more than just media now. I'll see where this goes before I judge. I like his manga, but after the personal struggle with letting go of JK Rowling as a huge Harry Potter fan, I feel I can let go of any author without much issue now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:35 pm Reply with quote
Juno016 wrote:
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
I think it's important to remember (there was another post similar to this in the Abe thread) is that things here aren't 1:1 with Japan at all times. Feminism as seen in the U.S. contains multitudes on different topics and the same will be true for Japan. There are obviously Japanese feminist groups that concern themselves with how female characters are depicted in media (like we saw with Tawawa on Monday) and artists might feel threatened by these groups. They aren't necessarily the same as the feminists involved with #KuToo, or workplace harassment, or paternity leave, or other issues outside of artistic expression.


Very similar, yes! For some more context:

Kind of like the US (which I'm most familiar with), Japan has one broad feminist "movement" that stems from a historical movement in the past for basic freedom rights (there used to be multiple factions, but Raicho's duty-based movement and her magazine won out, so most feminists jumped on board afterward). The victories for women's rights in the workplace and equal financial ownership rights at home and so on are still considered good to most of the general public, but like US feminism, Japanese feminism has mostly spread out into an individual ideology-based movement where feminists more or less just show up for the causes they agree with and stay out of causes they don't, so it's hard to draw lines between exact factions. Thus, when the least-liked feminist critiques come out of the woodwork, they reflect negatively to the public on the reasonable-sounding feminist critiques, too. In rare cases, a few prominent feminists will criticize others within the same movement. Akamatsu-sensei lambasts feminists, but he often cites feminist and Women’s Institute of Contemporary Media Culture (Japan branch) spokesperson Yamada Kumiko, who has, on two separate occasions, spoken outwardly about the lack of evidence of fictional media's impact on women's rights or harm to women. But for the most part, repeated occasions where a group of individual feminists come together to protest the portrayal of girls and women in anime/manga/etc. or that criticize popular music genres (you could make a case for the treatment of idols, at least) or fashion trends for being "too objectifying" have all given the overall movement a bad name. Kinda sucks for the rest of us feminists, but it's not like we're going to shed decades of good work in organizations still working for equality because someone we don't know or care about gives us a bad rep. I haven't seen Akamatsu-sensei particularly criticize anything about feminism except the calls for censorship, mainly because that's his primary political focus, so I'm not quite against his platform by principle yet.

JackInMegaMan wrote:
but he runs kinda on a platform of anime being attacked by the "west" which is something that isn't really happening. It's just stirring up culture war BS and it's tiring to hear the same thing ad nauseum. Most Japanese media doesn't give a damn about the west or any one calling for censorship, it's been shown time and time again. Some Netflix anime that Japan isn't going to watch won't change that sentiment.


If extra context on this helps as well, Akamatsu-sensei and his fellow "Freedom of Expression Party" members currently holding seats have not yet mentioned anything about "culture war" conspiracy nonsense from the West--as far as I'm aware. They tend to respond more publicly to actual attempts by organizations like UNICEF, the UN, publishers looking to branch into global markets (a complex topic where the free business of publishers may restrict the free speech of authors in various ways), and even domestic politicians feeling international pressure to pass censorship bills/laws (or laws that result in more self-censorship to reduce punishment, a la Ishihara's "Fictional Youth" Ordinance Bill 156). The Olympics have been relevant to this discussion for the last decade or so as politicians scrambled to make Japan as presentable to international tourists as possible... which, in retrospect, sucks even more after the last few years. Lol

residentgrigo wrote:
Am I surprised that Akamatsu joined a conservative party that has actual nationalists in it? Like a lot of them. Of course not. I have read his work. Lol. That said, you can´t be campaigning for freedom of speech and art and be in such a political party. Another lying politician. Shocker. You need to be at least center-left or a libertarian (lol) if you want to sound believable in your pursuit of self-expression for all.


I mentioned this before in a thread about Abe, but the amount of people making broad statements about Japanese politics without knowing a single thing about them is concerning. The "conservative party" with "actual nationalists" in it is the LDP, the party that has been so prominently institutionalized that everyone across all political aisles except the idealistically pure will join the party in hopes of having a chance at influencing policy in some way. Nationalists have a pretty strong faction within the party, but the party is split six ways and these six factions often butt heads against each other's proposals and platforms. Other parties do exist, but they often have very little sway and exist functionally to either fill a few seats and vote on LDP proposals, or to act as spokespersons for their ideals (and maybe to make money doing so). I'm only scratching the surface, but if nothing else, Akamatsu-sensei has constantly been critical of LDP politicians. He isn't going to be writing legislation, however. He's going to be holding a seat that allows him and many others to review, critique, edit, and sometimes reject bills being proposed for law. His objective is mostly to vet censorship bills, as per his campaign platform.

I don't know how I feel about Akamatsu-sensei as a politician yet. He has strong convictions against censorship of nearly any kind, though he has said he's willing to discuss bans on things like lolicon if there is enough evidence to confidently point to harm being done causally. He's talked a bit about feminism and affirmative action, but he's been limited in scope with both to media. He's going to be involved with a lot more than just media now. I'll see where this goes before I judge. I like his manga, but after the personal struggle with letting go of JK Rowling as a huge Harry Potter fan, I feel I can let go of any author without much issue now.


Exactly he show good ideas now, but we don't know what he's gonna, or need to, do while in office, so we need to stay vigilant while hoping for the best
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:24 pm Reply with quote
Juno016 wrote:
If extra context on this helps as well, Akamatsu-sensei and his fellow "Freedom of Expression Party" members currently holding seats have not yet mentioned anything about "culture war" conspiracy nonsense from the West--as far as I'm aware.


I don't know if you consider it "culture war nonsense" but he is aware of the recent trend in the west of casting voice actors that match a specific race. But in general I would say most of the "culture war" stuff doesn't apply to anime and manga given how different the entertainment industry is handled and run compared to their western counterparts. But I would wager a lot of the more savvy mangaka are aware of certain points of contention in pop culture as we've seen an increase in loan terms like "cancel culture" being used by Japanese creators.
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kakugo complete wrote:
It is to me when he says it's a result of learning from "overseas political correctness" and not taking pointers on how to make strong female characters from, say, Rose of Versailles. He's not the one who cited "overseas criticism" as the reason either (I wish I could recall the name of the yuri dating sim artist who said that but I'm gonna go with Marvelous Entertainment citing the Olympics as a reason to censor stuff). US feminism is doodoo now and Japan has a far better history of female representation.


Who cares? He can only make a decision about how he wants to improve his writing as long as it comes from people that are the same nationality as him? What exactly is the purpose of the internet and interacting with fans and people across the world? This really opens up the underlying idea that people have of Japan being this walled off land of ideological purity and any interactions they have internationally is poisoning it.

Entertainment is global and we're all able to enjoy things like anime despite most of us on this website not being Japanese. Japanese creators go to events around the world to meet the people that enjoy their stories and interact with their fans. That also means they care, to some degree or another, about viewers thoughts and feelings about their work. What is the point in sharing feelings and art across the world but then saying "don't pay any attention to THOSE fans' they aren't from your country?"

On at least three occasions at AX, the creators shot video on their phone at the end of a panel just to share that enthusiasm with the staff back in Japan. They obviously care about how their work is perceived beyond just viewers in Japan and if they want to also be open-minded to ideas they haven't considered, whether those ideas are proposed by an American or anywhere else, than that's allowed.


I wouldn't care if they listened to, say, the people who watched Goku vs Jiren on a giant screen in Mexico or the Italians that Lupin Part IV was partly made for. The views of a loud American minority are significantly influencing the very idea of progressiveness & acceptance globally given the insane level of cultural power America has over the rest of the world and I find those ideas incredibly lame.


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Oh great... the conservative guy that consistently defends fanservice of minors and lolicon, as an ideal freedom of expression.

The funny thing is that he and other objected to "sexual violence" as a term, citing works that would be banned... and they went to classic works that are totally acceptable. NOT their own works and doujins.

I can't with the "right" of sexualizing minors. I just can't.
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Oh great... the conservative guy that consistently defends fanservice of minors and lolicon, as an ideal freedom of expression.

Baseless claim. He's never claimed it's an 'ideal' form of freedom of expression. Just that his platform is very clear '2D'/fiction should very much be encompassed within that freedom of expression.

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The funny thing is that he and other objected to "sexual violence" as a term, citing works that would be banned... and they went to classic works that are totally acceptable. NOT their own works and doujins.

I can't comment directly as I don't know what you're referring to(links?). But if contents of fiction/2D are to be restricted, it would also affect things like the bible, should you go the fair route. In that regard places like UK, Canada, Australia are hypocrites. So I don't see why older works couldn't be referenced in context.

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I can't with the "right" of sexualizing minors. I just can't.

I HOPE you meant fiction, as that's the whole debate about, no one's defending the real life equivalent here.
..Sigh, I can't with the constant 'demands' of restricting fiction in guise of defending imaginary children. I just can't.
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defending imaginary children


As of now, people are free to fap to imaginary children. I'm sure they're proud of it. Meanwhile, we'll wait for the next mangaka arrested por child pornography.

Man... the "its fiction" and "its 2d" really cought on... it feels like i'm still in 2010. What's even worse, people don't realize how this only holds back Japan's creativity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:37 am Reply with quote
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What's even worse, people don't realize how this only holds back Japan's creativity.

I don't see any base for that claim.
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Oh great... the conservative guy that consistently defends fanservice of minors and lolicon, as an ideal freedom of expression.
Oh great... someone else who doesn't understand the meaning of freedom of expression. In its purest most fundamental form, no speech or visual artform is restricted. That's the ideal, not those things you personally find objectionable and what everyone else is forced to agree is objectionable. 2D / fiction is simply another way of saying not real - which also provides a basis for the visual type of expression (hence protected) and what is not (things not eligible to be protected.

For example, I take photos of my cousin's children bathing. The reason I could get in trouble for that is not only because the subjects are children but its because the images are photos. Yes, photography is still classified as art but its when the intent of the expression is evident that we define photos as art. If I drew those same children, I'm visually expressing something in a fictional manner. Someone might question my motive for drawing naked children, but if the guardian's consent is obtained, there is less liability against me.
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Congrats to Akamatsu. Great to have a man of culture involved. Keep on fighting the good fight for us.
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Blanchimont wrote:
tonk82 wrote:
What's even worse, people don't realize how this only holds back Japan's creativity.

I don't see any base for that claim.


Repeat with me "I'm defending the right to create child pornography".

1) Those are children.
2) It's pornography.

You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's Child pornography... even if it sounds wrong to you.

The very same way you are defending depicting sexual harassment toward women. You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's still sexual abuse towards women.

The moment Key Visual Works decided that "all-ages" version of their works is the desirable one, they were in the right. The only reason all this fanservice and lolicon bullshit exist in japan, is due to a vocal minority that consume and fap to this kind of contento. And no, that is not right... most japanese people don't even know this kind of content exist.
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For example, I take photos of my cousin's children bathing. The reason I could get in trouble for that is not only because the subjects are children but its because the images are photos. Yes, photography is still classified as art but its when the intent of the expression is evident that we define photos as art. If I drew those same children, I'm visually expressing something in a fictional manner. Someone might question my motive for drawing naked children, but if the guardian's consent is obtained, there is less liability against me.


This is a lot of words to misunderstand the fundamental difference between photographic and drawn child porn, which is quite simple: photographs involve exploiting real children. Drawings do not, assuming the artist is not using photographic child pornography as references. The "freedom of expression" side contends that since drawn child pornography does not directly involve child exploitation, it's ultimately harmless, while people in favor of restricting it believe that while it may not cause direct harm, it encourages harmful behaviors such as a permissive attitude toward pedophilia, or even cause people to develop a paraphilic attraction to children.
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I'm surprised nobody has posted his main policies yet:

1. Freedom of expression. He is against more strict censorship of anime, manga, and game depiction because there are already laws against real child porn, while ACG contents are not real, so it's not right to punish the creators when there are no real victims. Fight against outside preasure to censor ACG.

2. Improve Japan GPD via exporting of Japan anime, game and manga. Cracking down on pirate anime and manga sites. Promote esports and pro gaming scene in Japan.

3. Protect creator and fan creations. Doujins, cosplays ect. will not be considered illegal nor will the creators be sued for copyright infringement. Offer health benefits and better pay for freelancers in anime, manga sections. Have better health coverage for mangaka, and other ACG industry people. Create an archive for all ACG creations. Allow out of print, or no longer copyrighted books to be available as free.

4. Improve Japan's technology. Put more focus on computer, and programing, AI research. Start a more advanced space program. Improve and standardize network infrastructure. Allow immigration to bring in more experts from overseas.

5. Have games, anime, and manga do educational programs to educate children, and encourage them in those fields. Improve children literacy. Promote computer engineering, and IT fields for children. Promote work from home, and distance learning.

All around solid stuff.

LeonardRhine82 wrote:
Blanchimont wrote:
tonk82 wrote:
What's even worse, people don't realize how this only holds back Japan's creativity.

I don't see any base for that claim.


Repeat with me "I'm defending the right to create child pornography".

1) Those are children.
2) It's pornography.

You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's Child pornography... even if it sounds wrong to you.

The very same way you are defending depicting sexual harassment toward women. You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's still sexual abuse towards women.

The moment Key Visual Works decided that "all-ages" version of their works is the desirable one, they were in the right. The only reason all this fanservice and lolicon bullshit exist in japan, is due to a vocal minority that consume and fap to this kind of contento. And no, that is not right... most japanese people don't even know this kind of content exist.


You have no idea how many japanese creators are against censoring loli/shota content, lmao. Just read about the controversial "non-existent youth" bill. From Kentaro Miura to Rumiko Takahashi to George Morikawa to CLAMP to many, many more who produce and/or defend this kind of content. Such a "vocal minority", right?
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LeonardRhine82 wrote:
[Repeat with me "I'm defending the right to create child pornography".

1) Those are children.
2) It's pornography.

You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's Child pornography... even if it sounds wrong to you.

I say it. It's 2D/fiction. There's no victim. It's not child pornography(if you by that equate it to real life), only the fictional depiction of it. And yes, I AM defending the right to create that 2D/fiction.

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The very same way you are defending depicting sexual harassment toward women. You can say "it's 2d" all you want. It's still sexual abuse towards women.

Depicting(fiction) sexual harassment is NOT the same as sexual harassment in real life. To claim otherwise would be to make light of actual sexual harassment occurring out there, and which NOT only women are targets of. But I AM defending the right to depict it in fiction.
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all-tsun-and-no-dere wrote:
Drawings do not, assuming the artist is not using photographic child pornography as references.


Do we know how common this is? I remember it coming up in another discussion, might've been here.
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