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WANNFH
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So basically, it's a double standard - you talk about his statement like that he's breaking the law (because it's racist, and of course it's wrong - no complaints), but actually, that made people like this breaking the law, because it means there is enforcement to freedom of speech for people like him. But because he was the racist five years ago, he's wrong - and they're right. And guys - where people like this been when the novel was even serialized, really? Last edited by WANNFH on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:28 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Megiddo
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No, he's not breaking the law. That's why he's not arrested and in jail.
His statements in the past are a PR nightmare and it's easier to jettison the entire project than the try and work things out. It turns out that anime is international business, and not saying disparaging comments (like Rapeland or Bugland or that the invasion of China was "self-defense") about potential consumers of your product is not a bright idea. |
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Chester McCool
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Because until a few days ago, it wasn't controversial. I imagine they'll scrub it from their library within time, like Viz did with Kenshin. Don't want to be on the 'wrong side of history' after all. |
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Reilath
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This whole thing was honestly pointless, if you didn't like what he said/did just don't watch his content, that way you don't support him, its as easy as that. But this whole manhunt was specifically incited to destroy MINE which of course was a huge success. And now fans of this LN will be disappointed thanks to anime industry that has no backbone and people that love disagreeing with others only if its via the internet.
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Utsuro no Hako
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Those are guarantees that the government won't stop you from speaking. And guess what -- it's not. The guy can still say whatever he wants. But his publisher has the same rights he does. They own the printing press. They can choose what to print and distribute, and if they decide they don't want to touch this guy's stuff anymore, they're in their right to give him a shove. This is no different from the decision newspapers make every day of the week not to publish Joe Crackpot's letter about aliens working with the Bilderberg Group to put estrogen in the water supply. Last edited by Utsuro no Hako on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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musouka
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Whhhhy won't someone think of the racist who said racist things that people noticed?  It's just so unfair for people to have opinions about other people's opinions!
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WANNFH
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Last edited by WANNFH on Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:57 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Utsuro no Hako
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To make the question truly analogous to the current situation, if you used an offensive term about Mexicans, that would make you racist even though many Mexicans are of European descent.
Concepts of race are inherently squishy, and the notion that all Europeans are "white" is quite modern. It used to be that Europeans were divided into several racial groups -- Teutonic, Celtic, Slavic and Mediterranean/Latin/Greek being the main ones -- which is why we talk about Nazi racism even though their main victims were fellow Europeans. Even though our modern concept of race uses much broader groupings, the term "racism" still applies to, for instance, discrimination against Arabs or Mexicans who are technically "white". Or, in this case, to intra-Asian bigotry. Going on about how this is really "ethnicism" is just a silly distraction that doesn't make a damn bit of difference. |
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G S Palmer
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Well, this escalated quickly.
The author is completely to blame for his statements. He made racist comments. You can't really blame somebody else for that. The publisher is to blame for thinking they could clean up the apparent racism in the web novel and nobody would notice (which they must have done, since their editors are probably the ones who told him to clean it up). The consumers... well, most of them probably were clueless, and some of them may have known and not minded it/even appreciated it. The production committee can probably get a pass. I doubt they researched it that in depth beforehand. Can you really blame them for not sifting through years of tweets? And as for the people who took note once the anime was announced... well, what did you expect? An anime announcement is naturally going to draw a lot of interest from a whole lot of people, including some who probably dropped the original light novel/web novel due to its content but didn't think it was worth saying anything. Anyway, this is kind of unfortunate, as I was at least mildly interested in this show. At least there's one other (apparently very good?) isekai anime slated for this fall. |
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Iron Maw
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Irrelevant. Even fi say Hitler or Stalin work awesome books, it doesn't mean they shouldn't get shit canned for racism. A person talent is not a blanket check for them to do what they want. It's not like there aren't plenty good works out there on top of which don't have the baggage. If you treat your audience like crap than you should get what coming to you. Human history is full of dehumanization and we come point where know better than tolerate that shit anymore. |
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Dark Absol
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I find it odd that some manga has been 'jabbing' at American stuffs and yet, they're passable. But when it comes to China (and Korean thereof), they lose their shit.
W...T...F...? Last I checked, the events in any types of manga are COMPLETELY FICTIONAL. Just because something happened in the manga doesn't really reflect what really happened in the real world. |
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Nordhmmer
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The author did this to himself,instead of you know not continuing with the racist remarks on Twitter while their work was getting extra attention,he went right on tweeting...and we now know racism is not a side affect of taking Ambien so have to rule that out. And then there is the web novel,which does have the protagonist killing Chinese during WWII with a sword Google:"The contest to kill 100 people using a sword". Just as an example- Gate is freaking very pro Japanese nationalism.The web comic(holy crap lol)the manga both skewer the governments of the USA and China often. But Gate does not fictionalize an egregious incident which occurred during the Nanjing Massacre. |
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Kadmos1
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The cancellation brings up an interesting point concerning when it finally reaches the Amer. public domain: for post-1978 corporate works, foreign and domestic works enter the Amer. public the shorter term of 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation. Even this anime's copyright became free of its Amer. copyright on 1/1/2113, because it's a derivative work of the novels, an Amer. branch of MINE's estate could use that argument and re-copyright it* until the American life+70 copyright term expires. Even after the Amer. copyrights lapse, there are still trademarks that give it, for practical purposes, a perpetual copyright of sorts.
So, going with the above, let's say that 120+ years from now, all the Amer. copyright for both the anime and novels has lapsed. Also, all the applicable foreign/domestic trademarks have lapsed and no more trademarks are allowed to be made in relation to this anime. Let's also say that the Earth, internet. and digital preservation are all still around. Would the Japanese animation studio and rights holder be willing to give what was made of the anime masters to a person who wants to distribute it distribute online provided a fee was paid? *A similar thing was done with "It's a Wonderful Life"*. For practical purposes, I find that copyright restoration is public domain infringement/theft and should carry the same penalties as copyright infringement, but there are no "fair use" exceptions here. Last edited by Kadmos1 on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:25 am; edited 1 time in total |
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mangamuscle
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BULLSHIT. I am mexican and I can tell you that when someone starts to hate on mexicans they are hating on people of brown skin (which might not have been born in mexico), they know NOTHING about my country history or have any reason to hate the country at all. So yeah, nobody hates Mexico at all, quite different of how china-korea-japan hate other. BTW, how can I tell? I am white (look at my avatar  but my brother is not and he gets a lot of shit every time he crosses the border and I never had.
Bottom line, this is about country hating each other and the chinese want to play the racism card because it is useful, just like using the "hillary is evil" card was useful for the russians in 2016. |
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curtisd88
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The freedom of speech provided by the First Amendment in the USA only protects you from the government. You are allowed to say what you want but that doesn't make it okay. You can make all the racist statements you want, but just remember there are consequences that come with those statements. Prime example: Roseanne was just cancelled from national TV because of Roseanne Barr's racist statement on Twitter. Statements like those are looked down on in society and aren't tolerated regardless of free speech so the speakers get their due punishment. This author's statements are no different. He pissed off the wrong people and now he's paying for it. He now has no anime and the fate of his light novel is up in the air; and he only has himself to blame for it. |
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