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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:20 pm Reply with quote
Apollo-kun wrote:

1) Look at the sales data for K-On/Azumanga Daioh/any manga and anime like that. Boom.

Sketchbook Full Colors - 2.5k average per vol
Kanamemo - 1.2k average per vol
Manabi Straight - 2.5k average per vol
Hyakko - less than 1k average per vol
Natsuiro Kiseki - 2k average per vol

Would you like more?
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Kreion



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Saying fanservice = bad anime is a baseless argument. It doesn't make something good by any means, but just a bit of fanservice doesn't have to hurt a series and I imagine they use it to draw certain types of people in.

Disliking fanservice does not give you some moral high ground, all you need to be able to do is see the line where generic fanservice crosses into excessive fanservice and decide for yourself if you think it negatively affects the series as a result. Some series don't suffer from it, but most plot driven ones tend too.

The problem I've had with Kyoani is that I tend to have little to no interest in an all-one-gender-moe anime. Hence I never watched K-on, Tamako market was simply too moe-blob for me too. Hell the only reason Chuu2 gets away with it is because it suits her character to try and do cool things only for them to land her on her ass. Even if Free were 100% girls I'd still dislike it, but I know that other people will so w/e. I just want KyoAni to make a more serious or interesting show, to go along with that fanservice show. Which is what they could be doing here so I look forward too it.

Also, for whoever said Hyouka was bland. The show is interesting because it's not so OTT, the art is nice and the characters are created well. If you don't like it then /care, but it's not a bad show by any means.
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Fencedude5609



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:03 pm Reply with quote
Kreion wrote:
Saying fanservice = bad anime is a baseless argument


It also requires him to contort himself into pretzels to excuse the fanservice in the shows he likes, while still using it to bash other shows.

Not to mention hilariously vague accuations like "weird camera angles".

Plus the obligatory accuations of masturbation, as if that is at all relevant to this discussion.

(seriously, why are you guys so obsessed with other people's masturbation habits? That, THAT is creepy)
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Blazaking
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:45 pm Reply with quote
Looking forward to it!
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BigOnAnime
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:04 pm Reply with quote
Apollo-kun wrote:
Cutesy antics of cute girls isn't a risk.

Romantic comedy about quirky people isn't a risk.

Shirtless ripped men isn't a risk.

Try harder.

Someone here has never really looked at sales data. Why don't you take a good look at this thread.
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=2010456#post2010456

Yes many cute girls shows have sold really well, BUT at the same time, others have sold like absolute shit.

Same goes for other shows.
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Soliia



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:01 pm Reply with quote
Ah, I'm looking forward to this!
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Rederoin



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:29 pm Reply with quote
Apollo-kun wrote:
1) Look at the sales data for K-On/Azumanga Daioh/any manga and anime like that. Boom.

These are the sales date of 2012 and 2013 for Comedy SoL TV series with an all-girl main cast.

Winter 2012 :
**,993 - Kill Me Baby

Spring 2012 :
*2,986 - Natsu-iro Kiseki

Summer 2012 :
*7,288 - Yuru Yuri♪♪(2#)
*4,213 - Joshiraku(4#)

Autumn 2012 :
*7,416 - Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb(1#)

Winter 2013 :
*4,249 - Yama no Susume(3#, 3min short)
*3,895 - Minami-ke Tadaima(5#)
*3,759 - Tamako Market

Spring 2013 :
*2,813 - Yuyushiki
(**2,002 pt)Auira [Blu-ray](2002 points on the stalker estimate)(3min short)

Summer 2013(only using amazon stalker pre-order points) :
(** 1,086 pt) Kiniro mosiac Vol.1 [Blu-ray](1086 points on stalker)
(***, 163 pt) KKK Vol.1 [Blu-ray](163 points on stalker)
Meanwhile, monogatari S2 already has over 23000 points on stalker.
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bs3311



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:36 pm Reply with quote
kougeru wrote:
Fun thread here, guys.


Indeed it is Laughing

Anyway, I'm sorry again for my previouse Chu2kyo post that offended you Embarassed

kougeru wrote:
if people don't like KyoAni then don't post on a KyoAni thread?


True, but they have a right to post there opinion on here. And typing/telling what you feel is the best medication.

I could post something negative on Attack on Titan story, music, or animation wise on a thread related too it and I would probably have a highschool (roughly 3000 in my highschool before I graduated) load of people popping a brain vessel and tossing junk at me. But it would be my opinion that I can express (its not really mine right now since I'm still undecided. Just a example Laughing). And if I just keep it sealed inside, when I talk about it latter. It would become a burst open dam of emotion than a hint of that and main course of reasoning, with the dam example making me sound like a bais person.

I'm not angry at your post, I'm just speaking my mind without sealing it in a tiny bottle. Laughing
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:45 pm Reply with quote
bs3311 wrote:


I could post something negative on Attack on Titan story, music, or animation wise on a thread related too it and I would probably have a highschool (roughly 3000 in my highschool before I graduated) load of people popping a brain vessel and tossing junk at me.:


Are you suggesting Attack on Titan is actually animated?
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Hippy Joe



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:40 pm Reply with quote
ShanaFan852 wrote:
Someone here has never really looked at sales data. Why don't you take a good look at this thread.
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?p=2010456#post2010456

Yes many cute girls shows have sold really well, BUT at the same time, others have sold like absolute shit.

Same goes for other shows.


Haha, a bit off topic, but I found it funny how most shows I like are in the 999-0 lists. Guess I have odd taste in shows.

on topic- preview looked neat, hope this one is a winner
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Ginsan



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:46 pm Reply with quote
I have one problem with KyoAni recently, their characters look almost the same, the same old design. Even if the story's good, it's kind of sick to look at the same type of design they pulled out. Free! is an exception.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:57 pm Reply with quote
Kou looks the same as their designs in other shows, just a more gaunt face.
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Lost_Shy_One



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:40 pm Reply with quote
Seems interesting. I'll be looking into this.
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aiem



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:18 am Reply with quote
Apollo-kun wrote:

*sigh* I come to ANN expecting it to be different from 4chan, yet I'm starting to see the two overlap. Sad day.


So what exactly were you expecting to be different? Either way it's already a lot different than when YOU troll 4chan all day long.

Apollo-kun wrote:
HitokiriShadow wrote:
Tamako Market was a risk. Chu2koi was a risk. Free is a risk.


Cutesy antics of cute girls isn't a risk.

Romantic comedy about quirky people isn't a risk.

Shirtless ripped men isn't a risk.

Try harder.


You know what, I bet you know a lot of anime under those things you listed had barely mediocre sales.

Also do tell me that you believe in/preach the notion that ALL KyoAni anime needs to make more than 20k sales in discs just because their budget is imaginarily exorbitant. That way I'd know you troll sales/studio threads.

God thanks to your painfully trollish posts I registered. Welcome me!
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getchman
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:21 am Reply with quote
aiem wrote:
Welcome me!


welcome to the ANN forums
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