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RyanSaotome



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:11 am Reply with quote
Genet wrote:
tuxedocat wrote:
Flower Metal wrote:
It must be glorious to have a twin sister, or maybe not, it depends.


Well, I'm my brother's twin sister and its no big deal. Rolling Eyes

This kind of stuff is for creepers IMO.


I agree. I'm not a twin, but have 5 siblings. I find incest kinda really creepy, and I'm not sure I understand where the fascination comes from.


Anything thats taboo is sure to be a popular fetish. Its really that simple.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:31 am Reply with quote
RyanSaotome wrote:
Genet wrote:
tuxedocat wrote:
Flower Metal wrote:
It must be glorious to have a twin sister, or maybe not, it depends.


Well, I'm my brother's twin sister and its no big deal. Rolling Eyes

This kind of stuff is for creepers IMO.


I agree. I'm not a twin, but have 5 siblings. I find incest kinda really creepy, and I'm not sure I understand where the fascination comes from.


Anything thats taboo is sure to be a popular fetish. Its really that simple.


I think it's taboo to make love to a doorknob, but I don't think it's a popular fetish.

On a serious note, I think people who're into bro-sis fetish are into the 'perfect relationship meets forbidden love' thing, since siblings are supposed to be really compatible, you have a bond since young, etc. It's not my cup of tea, but I don't think fetishists are transferring IRL incest issues over to their fantasies.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:36 am Reply with quote
You can't look at anime little sisters like your actual little sister.

I don't have any interest in my actual little sister, but fantasizing about actual little sisters isn't what imoto anime is about.

Imoto anime is about two things:

The first is a traditional "forbidden love" story. It's a classic story as old as time, and at the root of many a great romance, but it still makes for good drama.

The second is the fantasy of an "ideal" little sister. This isn't an actual little sister. This is a person who's inherently close to you, is not afraid to call you out on your bullshit, but still looks up to you......and is also sexy. It's this assumed familiarity with a member of the opposite sex that is the root of the imoto anime.

Thus, the imoto fantasy is an extreme variation on the "childhood friend" archetype. The two primary differences is that the relationship has been made taboo and that the author no longer has to make up an excuse for the girl and the main character to co-habititat. Laughing
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 4:27 pm Reply with quote
tuxedocat wrote:
Flower Metal wrote:
It must be glorious to have a twin sister, or maybe not, it depends.


Well, I'm my brother's twin sister and its no big deal. Rolling Eyes


That's hot!


Genet wrote:

I agree. I'm not a twin, but have 5 siblings. I find incest kinda really creepy, and I'm not sure I understand where the fascination comes from.


Japan's 1.21 fertility rate. Laughing
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Gon*Gon



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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:42 pm Reply with quote
Here's hoping that we'll get two actually related characters and not that fake-incest crap anime keeps copping out to us.


And god help them if they do make a "real-incest couple" and then proceed to give them an angst-overdose.


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I think it's taboo to make love to a doorknob, but I don't think it's a popular fetish.

It's not taboo if it isn't culturally frowned upon. And something isn't culturally frowned upon unless there's people frowning on it to begin with. And that won't happen unless someone actually made love to a doorknob in front of other people in the first place and did so in such a way that made people uncomfortable enough to frown on them.


Incest on the other hand is just two siblings in love with each other and somehow have it revealed to it in public, some time in the past, some busybody(ies) found it distasteful, frowned at it, and successfully made the dislike of such a thing cultural.

Hence why there likely isn't a big following for doorknob fetish to make a series out of it. (on the other hand, I do believe there's a population that have a thing for doorknobs, don't know any, but I bet they exist)
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:56 pm Reply with quote
Tip: Don't do a google search for "doorknob porn."
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:09 pm Reply with quote
Gon*Gon wrote:
Incest on the other hand is just two siblings in love with each other and somehow have it revealed to it in public, some time in the past, some busybody(ies) found it distasteful, frowned at it, and successfully made the dislike of such a thing cultural.
We're hardwired not to commit incest at the reptilian level of our brains; it's literally the only universal taboo. Of course, that's what makes fiction about it so interesting.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:52 am Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
We're hardwired not to commit incest at the reptilian level of our brains; it's literally the only universal taboo. Of course, that's what makes fiction about it so interesting.

That is not to say that the "wiring" doesn't short circuit every once in a while. The simple fact is that in real life, mutual willing incest is quite rare.

As I recall, however, one of the instances where it is most likely to occur is where you have two related individuals that have been separated for most of their lives (which seems to be the case here). Even then, if "most likely" meant even a tripling of likelihood, it would still be a rather low incidence.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:31 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
tuxedocat wrote:
Flower Metal wrote:
It must be glorious to have a twin sister, or maybe not, it depends.


Well, I'm my brother's twin sister and its no big deal. Rolling Eyes


That's hot!


Hey, were you the guy following us around the Kinokunya bookstore in SF? (and had security escort you out of Japantown?)

If so, has the bookstore management rescinded the prema-ban?* Laughing


*joking, of course.

edited to add: Seriously though, this has actually happened. Anime dazed
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:52 am Reply with quote
TheAncientOne wrote:
Polycell wrote:
We're hardwired not to commit incest at the reptilian level of our brains; it's literally the only universal taboo. Of course, that's what makes fiction about it so interesting.

That is not to say that the "wiring" doesn't short circuit every once in a while. The simple fact is that in real life, mutual willing incest is quite rare.

As I recall, however, one of the instances where it is most likely to occur is where you have two related individuals that have been separated for most of their lives (which seems to be the case here). Even then, if "most likely" meant even a tripling of likelihood, it would still be a rather low incidence.
Most of the wiring depends on actual close relationships. We perceive the people who raise us as our parents and the other kids they raise as our siblings. This, notably, covers steps brought together at an early age but not folks separated at birth.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:00 am Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
Most of the wiring depends on actual close relationships. We perceive the people who raise us as our parents and the other kids they raise as our siblings. This, notably, covers steps brought together at an early age but not folks separated at birth.


This also explains the cruel fate of the osananajimi.

Anyway, its a fetish. I don't particularly care one way or another (since I don't insert myself as the male lead), so it just depends on the situation. "Not Blood Related" is generally a total cop-out though.

I remember a lot of people around here freaking out over KissXSis, which at least was up front about the NBR, and yet they still couldn't handle it.

My problem with the show was the gratuitous watersports.
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ArsenicSteel



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:58 pm Reply with quote
Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:
Chagen46 wrote:
My god, they aren't even trying at this point anymore.


I don't really care because they will pull out of their ass "not blood related so bang her bs"

Listen quite frankly I don't give a damn if you like this subject or not now one is forcing you to watch the shit, I just wish they had to balls to do it outside of yosuga no sora . If you want to make an anime where a guy falls in love with his separated sibling and doesn't know about by doing a serious relation-ship matters aside from harem hijnks fine.

All I care about is the writers having the balls to follow through on it and give the middle finger to mainstream media. Don't back down like a bunch of pus*** because you are afraid something bad will happen, either do it or stop the cliche setup up already.


I don't know what "they" are doing all the time but I do know "they" have made an anime called Koi Kaze which has a lot of what you mentioned. Whether or not "they" have anything else similar is unknown to me but it feels more about what "they" want to do with the genre and less what you want.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:17 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
TheAncientOne wrote:
Polycell wrote:
We're hardwired not to commit incest at the reptilian level of our brains; it's literally the only universal taboo. Of course, that's what makes fiction about it so interesting.

That is not to say that the "wiring" doesn't short circuit every once in a while. The simple fact is that in real life, mutual willing incest is quite rare.

As I recall, however, one of the instances where it is most likely to occur is where you have two related individuals that have been separated for most of their lives (which seems to be the case here). Even then, if "most likely" meant even a tripling of likelihood, it would still be a rather low incidence.
Most of the wiring depends on actual close relationships. We perceive the people who raise us as our parents and the other kids they raise as our siblings. This, notably, covers steps brought together at an early age but not folks separated at birth.

Well, even without the GSA effect, falling for one of people whom you've raised with is still possible no matter how small the probability is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:38 am Reply with quote
TheAncientOne wrote:
I am not going to be so quick to judge this to be an "incest anime". It wouldn't be the first time that someone slapped that label on an anime as soon as they read the blurb announcing it, only for it to turn out to be wrong.


If it is anywhere near Koi Kaze in tone and quality then it will be great. But I seriously, seriously doubt it. But I will still give it a (brief) chance to convince me otherwise . . .
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if you're watching this for the ecchi/harem/incest aspect, you're doing it wrong.

this series shine on the heavy dialogue, banter, puns, and comedy based interaction between characters (usually 1 vs 1). Its arc-liked, but plotless, style of comedic and sexual bantering rivals (or even better) than the monogatari series.

There are no settings, no actions, no movements. Just words words words. I am quite curious how the studio will handle the animation because otherwise, most of the scene would literally be 2 characters standing still talking all episodes long with few gestures and exaggerations here and there.

This series will either be AOTY or be complete crap if the studio or VA fails to draw out the dynamics between the distinct character speech and bantering of the characters
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