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INTEREST: Yuragi-sō no Yūna-san Stirs Controversy Over 'Sexual Depictions' in Shonen Jump


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Estelle the White Mage



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:49 pm Reply with quote
"Wont somebody PLEEEEEEASE think of the children!??!?!!?!"
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Asterisk-CGY



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:51 pm Reply with quote
The fact is that this kind of depiction is so prevalent across all media that there is a reason to pull back from this content. It would be less harmful if it wasn't such a dominating view of the landscape.
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Dontey Griffith



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:56 pm Reply with quote
Wait, they never saw Food Wars? That got an anime, have been running for five years. That recently have an image of a giant lady in a bikini have two muscle guy between her breasts?

I bet if Shonen Jump didn't have girls in bikinis on that cover, none of them would care. This always bugs me, people come out the woodworks and start saying "think about the children" when they see it. Why can't they sit down with their kids and talk about things, instead of censorship. Teach the kids not to do that in real life, talk to them. Stop going after media
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:57 pm Reply with quote
VORTIA wrote:
I'd wager 70-85% of the people on this website are here because when they were 12-18 years old, Japanese entertainment was the only medium that would frankly engage them about their growing sexuality in a non-patronizing way.


I think you're drastically overestimating how many fans got into anime because of its sexual aspects, as opposed to its mecha, fantasy, sci fi, video game-inspired, etc. elements... general "action" stuff. When you think about the "gateway" anime series on Toonami like Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, Gundam Wing, Naruto, etc. none of them are appealing because of sexuality... and for many, many fans of those shows, the sexual elements were not viewed as "features" of anime (not to say that any of those things are bad, they just aren't what drew people to the series).
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BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:

When you think about the "gateway" anime series on Toonami like Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball Z, Gundam Wing, Naruto, etc. none of them are appealing because of sexuality....


I feel like you haven't met very many anime fans.
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Xavon



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:03 pm Reply with quote
I love when people make assumptions based on one cover image.

All nudity in that manga is already censored. There is no sexual harassment.... Actually, I take that back, there is sexual harassment, a preteen tanuki girl does sexually harass other girls, as part of her efforts to better understand the human body. The main/male character does not. In fact he is nothing but kand and polite to the girls, and defends their honor.
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Snakebit1995



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:07 pm Reply with quote
RitsuLaw wrote:
I agree that these kind of series shoudn't be on Shonen Jump, since, well, it's marketered at children.


JUMP is the same mag that has One Piece which features almost exclusively busty females, one of whom just wears a array of bikini tops for the last 8 years. And Sanji who's just a creep in all honesty.

Black Clover which has a girl who sits around in her underwear for 75% of her on screen time.We Never Learn has had multiple chapters that took place in baths or with halk naked to naked characters. Food Wars which basically has people orgasm on page almost every chapter, hell this NSFW spread appeared in Food Wars a few weeks ago in a chapter titled THICK is Justice- http://i9.mangapanda.com/shokugeki-no-soma/215/shokugeki-no-soma-9283813.jpg .

The Weekly Shonen Jump wikipage even lists the target audience as young males around middle school to high school age, not little kids. It's mostly meant for puberty age boys between 9-18 or so. The median age of Jump readers is actually 16 and half tha audience is between 13 to 17 and over 30% of readership is female.

Yuna isn't about parading around naked women it's a supernatural rom-com, things JUMP has done for many years. We don't cut out the blood from One Piece because JUMP's a "kids" magazine, that be silly. Jump has series for multiple age groups, some rubs the top like Yuna and some is more young oriented. Hell this is the magazine that published Dragon Ball where in the first chapter Goku has his junk hanging out the whole time, or Naturo where less then five chapters in an ADULT shoves a finger into a kid's ass!

Yuna's been around for over a year now and no one said anything till this color cover.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:10 pm Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:19 pm Reply with quote
Japanese parent: Son, I don't want you reading Shonen Jump anymore. This lawyer said it's not good for your eyes.

12 year old Japanese boy: Okay. (goes on the Internet, finds scanlations of much more graphic manga, uncensored porn, etc)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:20 pm Reply with quote
mochisandwich wrote:
You don't usually see sexualized depictions of underage boys with their dicks hanging out in SJ, but you see girls in distress with literally the smallest of objects covering the "vital" parts to prevent them from being completely naked...
Dragon Ball had a nude young Goku and no object covering it.

The best phrase of the article is:
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He ended his post by saying that people who talk about bans likely received poor education.


And also i don't think if children apply here because manga for children is Kodomo manga
Shonen manga is manga for pre-teens and teens.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:31 pm Reply with quote
VORTIA wrote:
I feel like you haven't met very many anime fans.


You'd be very wrong about that. Putting that aside, though, I'm extremely curious about what you think makes something like Gundam better capable of engaging kids "about their growing sexuality in a non-patronizing way" than, say, Interview With A Vampire, which is what most 12 year old geeks were reading when I was that age.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:34 pm Reply with quote
Where these people complaining about To Lover Ru Darkness when it ran in Jump Square? One need not molly coddle children from depictions of mere nudity. Also whether it is appropriate for children or not ought to be left up to the parents of the children not self-appointed moral guardians who try to censor entertainment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:34 pm Reply with quote
I was getting ready to defend fan service until I noticed that several of them are crying. That seems a bit much for Shonen Jump.

Xavon wrote:
I love when people make assumptions based on one cover image.

All nudity in that manga is already censored. There is no sexual harassment.... Actually, I take that back, there is sexual harassment, a preteen tanuki girl does sexually harass other girls, as part of her efforts to better understand the human body. The main/male character does not. In fact he is nothing but kand and polite to the girls, and defends their honor.
I think that the motivations of the protagonist does make a difference so that is good to hear. Still those illustrations were made to promote the manga.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:35 pm Reply with quote
The only reason they're complaining about it is because it's fresh and recent. There is literally hundreds of worse depictions of "Sexual harassment" out there, yet they only focus on this because it's recent.

Ridiculous.
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Snakebit1995



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:41 pm Reply with quote
Chrono1000 wrote:
I was getting ready to defend fan service until I noticed that several of them are crying. That seems a bit much for Shonen Jump.

Xavon wrote:
I love when people make assumptions based on one cover image.

All nudity in that manga is already censored. There is no sexual harassment.... Actually, I take that back, there is sexual harassment, a preteen tanuki girl does sexually harass other girls, as part of her efforts to better understand the human body. The main/male character does not. In fact he is nothing but kand and polite to the girls, and defends their honor.
I think that the motivations of the protagonist does make a difference so that is good to hear. Still those illustrations were made to promote the manga.


Well the motivations of the protagonist don't matter techinically yes becuase the idea is sort of still there.

But it's also wrong to generalize and say it's the MCs fault when in this series it's literally never his fault, as someone else said a little girl usually pulls a stupid stunt and girls fall into him, it's not like he's Issei running around perving on chicks.


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