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TheVok
Posts: 613 Location: North York, Ontario, Canada |
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Just off-hand, the statement it made was the use of beauty to reinforce the power of Egyptian monarchy. The general elegance of it, including the high cheekbones, was more a matter of establishing class than of representing reality in a literal sense. That's why it has been so iconic throughout history, whereas a photo of Nefertiti (for the sake of speculation) might very well not have been. |
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labantnet
Posts: 57 Location: Anoka, MN |
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Were they shaped like Koala bears? |
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Otaking09
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That whole Guro question was a little strange...
To me, Elfen Lied symbolized a LOT! It talked about alienation, and the clause: "if-you-treated-like-a-monster-you'll-become-one", and the fact that if you have one person who thinks you are okay, you're human. How some people mistake the series for being nothing more than a nude, gory, slugfest, must've been looking for a hentai title... I haven't seen enough of Berserk to support that one too, but it wouldn't be at the top of nearly every single manga website, if it only contained gore and sex. But hey, maybe gore does that! Turn people away. Elfen Lied is #5 on my Top 10, and as I continue to watch newer titles, it has never faltered. |
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DuelLadyS
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I hope you don't mean Pucca.... I adore Pucca. (Basically a chocolate-filled pretzel. And now I want some.) The only other chocolate/cookie Asian snacks I know are Koala march and Hello Panda, which are pretty similar to each other. (I like all 3, but Pucca's my favorite!) At this point, I can't really name a Japanese snack I haven't liked- but I haven't been too adventurous in my choices, either. Maybe someday I'll try something meat-flavored and be properly grossed out. |
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nightjuan
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I would agree but unfortunately suspect that's going to be a rare exception rather than the norm.
I just love when people say "none of us" when they really mean "not me nor those who share my thoughts." 
Lelouch was certainly a manipulative bastard, but cold? No, not really. You'd have to dismiss about half of his scenes or so. As bombastic as the show was, which is undeniable, that's not quite what I'd call an accurate assessment of the character. "Critical thinking" indeed, eh? Hell, I could barely relate after he went crazy but that doesn't make him "cold" by any stretch of the imagination or as a result of any detailed analysis. Then again, I could turn around and argue that the only TTGL character I could honestly relate to was Simon. Not that the rest of the cast was "bad" or lacking any nuances at all but I don't think most of them were as supposedly "three-dimensional" as Watson claims. Hardly what I would call an appropriate contrast or a shining example to follow in this particular respect. |
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corinthian
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Ah, is that why? That definitely makes more sense than the article answer. Looking at Wikipedia, Olivia is half-American, was partly raised in America, and has a mostly-English album or two out. I'm sure there's some grandeur issues on the producers' part, but given the rise-fall-rise nature of her career I'd be surprised if Olivia were that naive. |
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Excuse me? As far as shojo goes, Utena is pretty huge. When I asked for another title I should get for my daughter who like Sailor Moon (11 yrs old at the time), the anime shop owner suggested Utena. You might want to check out the title if you've never seen it. The whole egg cracking thing gets annoying, but it has a point, probably more of one than Bebop which is largely a space opera. (not begrudging them. I love Star Wars & Bebop was one of my first box sets. I have the cool hinged lid box) I've only ever had a vague idea of what guro is since most people I ask have dismissed it as gross-out, disturbing stuff, but Brian's description, though in the same vein, cleared it up. As a long-time fan of horror, but not gore, I've seen more than my share of fans of splatter. Is guro outside that realm? I subscribed to Fangoria magazine long ago, but finally let that subscription expire because the zine was spending more & more time on gorefests & had no interest in. I recognize the use of gore/blood in the context of a story when it is necessary. There's a point. It's like my 5th grade vocal teacher complained about being forced to change the word "hell" to "fire" in Impossible Dream" for the choir because he knew mommies & daddies (in 1969) would have a cow over their 5-6th graders being made to sing the word hell. The contrast of being forced to go thru Hell for a Heavenly cause has far more impact than going thru fire for a Heavenly cause. If a story is painting a monster, the author might choose to depict the extent of the fiend's depravity, or the anount of torture it takes to turn a mouse into a lion. On the other hand, it's really too easy to just throw in gallons of fake blood & bodies hacked up in the name of satisfying barely articulate fans who think barrels of blood = the best thing on the planet. (I don't mean this as an insult. If a fan can explain in words other than "Because its cool!" or variations of that phrase, I will respect their opinion of the piece even if I still see it as trash because I know different things mean different things ot different people. If you can find gold in dross, fine)
I'll argue Japanese VA's all day if you like. I've heard similar claims (Japanese people feel anime is full of hammy over-acting), often from English-speaking VA's. Do listeners of Opera have to speak Italian? Does not understanding the language mean people who do not speak the language cannot understand the emotions conveyed by the singing? American fans cannot understand Rammstein? One of the major difs between Japan & here is here we usually see the title cast by the studio's pool of actors (shades of the old Hollywood studio contract players) Talent doesn't necessarily seem to come into play. You have 3 roles, you have more leeway than if you have 25 roles which is probably going to tax a studios ability to run different actors in the roles. Japan is more likely to cast from a larger pool of VA's because there's a higher concentration in the area where the dubbing is done. There VA's tend to get roles if a similar style-typecasting if one cares to call it that. One can see Kaoru/Evangelion, Xellos/Slayers, Hakkai/Saiyuki, Gara/Naruto are deceptively powerful beings all performed by Akira Ishida. I note Katsuyuki Konishi is falling into the big brother/guardian-type roles from Amidamaru/Shaman King, Haji/Blood+, Ikki/Saint Seiya Hades Chapter, Kamina/Gurren Lagann. If you look at the roles of most of the VA's who've been around any length of time in Japan, you will see patterns to their work. Also, it does seem they pay attention to the various roles--the tone of voice is as important as the character designs. Let's look at Saiyuki. ADV had it originally & cast it how they wanted with little regard to the roles. American fans saw them as the voices even though they weren't necessarily all that similar to the original Japanese VA's. When Geneon took the license from ADV(listen to the commentary on the movie--ADV was less than happy), they chose to cast incredibly close to the Japanese. American fans complain hard & long about the pronunciations, etc, yet if they took 2 seconds to check between the tracks, Souichiro Hoshi DOES sound as if he is saying "Hawkeye" for Hakkai at times & overall, the production does seem to have paid more attention to the Japanese delivery (I assume because they knew they'd never please ADV's fans short of hiring the ADV VA's, though according to Requiem's commentary Davis Matranga had moved to New York & would have been replaced had ADV kept the title.) In Japan we had Akira Ishida-then already known for Kaoru, Xellos & Fisheye(Sailor Moon); Toshihiko Seki also established from Here is Greenwood, Captain Tylor, Gundam Wing, Outlaw Star, Ranma 1/2, & Trigun; Souichiro Hoshi who had been in Princess Rouge, Lost Universe, To Heart & he & Ishida (& I believe Seki) do their share of drama cds which presumably have a following or they wouldn't still be making them in Japan. Hiroaki Hirata most likely landed Sha Gojyo on the strength of Sanji/One Piece. On the English side, we have Braden Hunt as Hakkai-most of the commentaries acknowledged he was new to anime work; David Matranga who had been in Orphen, & Steel Angel; Greg Ayres who apparently hounded the studio for the role because he was a fan of the title before the studio licensed it; Illich Guardiola-I like him, though I've seen a lot of negative reviews here on his stuff & I don't think he was in all that much prior. So you suggest this cast is better than the Japanese? Yeah, Japan cheaps out. I look at the cast & decide how much interest the makers had in the project pased on how much they were willing to pay for name brand VA's vs a cast of newbs.
Whether you know Gundam, Ishida has been around a lot. He's one I can pick out of a cast (Koyasu, Yamaguchi & Hoshi also). Besides what I've named, he's been in Berserk(Judou), Chrono Crusade(title character), DNAngel (Satoshi), Haruka (Abe no Yasuaki), Gokudo (title character) Spiral (Eyes), Gintama (Katsura), Sgt Frog (Saburo), Meine Liebe (Naoji), Fushigi Yugi (Ren), & Glass Fleet (Vetti) Last edited by CCSYueh on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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v1cious
 Posts: 6214 Location: Houston, TX |
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"Guro" is a hard subject to define. i mean there's obviously a lot of exploitative crap, but then there's some artists i've seen labeled under the guro genre that i didn't agree with. for instance, Jun Hayami and Suehiro Maruo. the work they make clearly isn't porn. these guys make stories with actual depth.
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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Rice doesn't beat you over the head with it but it does have a taste. There's also different types of rice too, even within Japanese types. Not unlike wine, choosing the type of rice served with a meal is a culinary art. That said, I'd agree that nine times out of ten just plain rice is kind of a shame. My experience thus far is that I take more issues with the writing of shows rather than the performance. I don't think it's unfair to say Japanese VAs have the environment and the resources hand over fist of their western counterparts, so I don't see what the big shock is. Maybe there's some kind of Boschosphere that people are trapped in? |
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DavidShallcross
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Then I advise you never to try konnyaku. I had some from a street vender once. Bleah. Natto, on the other hand, while commonly viewed as gross, (1) isn't really a snack food, and (2) is something I find I kind of like. |
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LordByronius
ANN Columnist
 Posts: 861 Location: Philippe for America! He is five. |
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your culinary adventures astound and horrify me. for the record, i don't think i could ever eat another animal's wingus. |
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configspace
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umm... Funi and all the others use dual-layer DVDs for the thin packs, or any dvd with > 5 eps. And the single volumes of yore (and Media Blasters of today) used single layer DVDs, unless there were lots of extras. So the bitrate itself is about the same between 7 eps on a dual layer and 4 eps on a single layer. |
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Zin5ki
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Much heated debate, I would presume, results only from this principle not being heeded. Somebody having an uncommon but genuine response to something ought to be acknowledged by others, even if they would habitually retort in a sceptical manner upon being told this. I say this because, in many cases, no such disagreement need be reached by seemingly dissenting viewers at all; it should not be remarkable that two viewers will be disposed to be affected by the same thing in different ways. And if people's affections differ, so too will the semantics of the terms they utter relevant to such affections. Their 'artistic' claims can thus be simultaneously true and meaningful, even if such claims would appear inconsistent if uttered by the same person within the same context.
Perhaps this lack of familiarity with the source language indeed facilitates part of a viewer's appreciation. To wit, being impervious to the lack of verisimilitude of the vocal aspect of a performance would not be to the detriment of a veiwer's entertainment, suggesting that this could well be a quaint case in which liking something would be restricted, not aided, by knowing more about it. |
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TatsuGero23
 Posts: 1277 Location: Sniper Island, USA (It's in your heart!) |
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Not sure its really a "Japanese" food type thing as it is a general Asian type food but my family, relatives, friends, etc; the absolutely LOVE these red chili covered candied mango stuff. Either via lollipop form or the bigger pieces. It works off the whole sweet/sour hot/sweet thing but I hate those things. I... I just can't stand them. I rather eat the dried squid my dad loves to eat (although I can't stand the smell) then eat those mango things.
But I love my Yan Yans, Pockies, those hard candies you get in those liquor flask thingies and those chocolate filled panda cookies. Yum. Oh, and those colorful sponge rice cake thingies. I still have absolutely no idea what they are called but they are yummy. Plus people on the mainland go one step above the rice ball. We serve it with a hot Asian sausage hot dog style with sticky rice or just sticky rice with half a chicken. Delicious and my comfort food. Also the greatest thing that can happen in 2010? The UK stops messing with its anime fans and giving them their streaming anime like we get in the US. Just make a deal with CR and Funi already. I feel for you my otaku brothers and sisters. EDIT: Damn spell check! Last edited by TatsuGero23 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:46 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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stararnold
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Looking at Anime's history I'd have to say that the only things that changed are in my point of view: 1) the animation quality as coloring appears to be more in a bold tone, so as to say that the colors are no longer as light as before, and 2) the way people watch Anime currently as most of today's fans don't seem to want to bother with any of the Anime of the 1960s through the 1980s (with exceptions of a few titles like ("Speed Racer", "Mobile Suit Gundam", "Robotech", and "Dragon Ball") because they now see their sense of storytelling charm as outdated, thus they're more into Anime of more recent times (like "Code Geass" and "Lucky Star").
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