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Dargonxtc
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:54 am
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Half a billion. At least that is a number that can make what CB deserves. Still, they must stay to the theme without becoming cheesy. That will ultimately become the telling stone rather that how much money they spend. Is it going to be Scooby Doo or Dark Knight type of deal?
Who knows?
As far as actors and producers I still think at this junction it is better to have an open mind. Do I have problems, yes. But at this juncture you just can't tell.
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FaytLein
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:56 am
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Half a billion? I mean, that is more than it cost to get Avatar off the ground, and while it did make it back of course, I doubt Bebop has that kind of pull anymore to top that. Maybe it will happen when the Eva movie will get made, which is probably safe to say it won't happen, at least not now.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:11 am
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The problem with making a live-action adaptation of something like Cowboy Bebop is that if you spend as much money as it takes to make it look like it should, it still probably won't make enough back to turn a profit.
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HuskofDaimao
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:14 am
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How the fudge could it cost $500 million to make a Cowboy Bebop movie? They could make a Cowboy Bebop today with the budget required to make the first Matrix movie. I'd imagine the budget is so high because Keanu is demanding $400 million out of it. This is just outrageous. If they can make a Transformers movie with $200 million or so, they can make a Cowboy Bebop movie with far under that.
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Emerje
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:16 am
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Half a billion? Whoa...
Really have a hard time believing that number is accurate, it's not like the "world" of CB looked all that different from ours, just need to do shots in the right locations. Was he planning on adding CG droid armies and lightsaber battles? I mean, even the space portions of the TV series were pretty tame. With a price tag like that I have to wonder if it was still Cowboy Bebop.
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Twilightmaster
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:21 am
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I have a feeling this is just an excuse to drop the project and make it seem 'legitimate'. I'm a bit bitter-sweet on that fact, as I loathed Keanu having any part in the production of this movie what-so-ever, but I was looking forward to an attempt being made. ya never know, it could have been a diamond hidden under a lump of coal...
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GATSU
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:27 am
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Dargon: Avatar wasn't worth half a billion. I don't see why Bebop needs to cost that much. The ceiling shouldn't be higher than around $150 million, max. That Star Trek reboot was in that range. The film should basically look like a shinier, medium-budget[I.E. ditch the ghetto Syfy look], version of Serenity. How the hell can you screw that up?
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Big Hed
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:37 am
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Emerje wrote: | Half a billion? Whoa...
Really have a hard time believing that number is accurate, it's not like the "world" of CB looked all that different from ours, just need to do shots in the right locations. Was he planning on adding CG droid armies and lightsaber battles? I mean, even the space portions of the TV series were pretty tame. With a price tag like that I have to wonder if it was still Cowboy Bebop.
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Agreed. Half a billion dollars is a ridiculous number.
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nargun
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:02 am
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Half a billion dollars?
No way that's hyperbole, no way at all.
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Proximately
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:47 am
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That's pretty extreme indeed. But I don't think that he's completely out of it, especially since it seems they're rewriting the script. Hopefully that doesn't mean it'll make for a worse movie.
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the-antihero
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:48 am
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Well, I hope it stays that way, live-action Cowboy Bebop wouldn't work anyway. Especially with Keanu Reeves who's a bad choice for the part of Spike. Also, NOT ONE anime that has been adapted into an American was successful with audience. Why couldn't they take something like Black Lagoon? That easily works as an American movie, and they should get Sylvester Stallone to direct it.
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Ulinox
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:17 am
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Wow, that really is a lot of money. But Keanu is a good actor and a decent choice for Spike, so I hope they pull through and manage to make something out of it with a little rewriting.
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Kalessin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:24 am
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FaytLein wrote: | Half a billion? I mean, that is more than it cost to get Avatar off the ground, and while it did make it back of course, I doubt Bebop has that kind of pull anymore to top that. Maybe it will happen when the Eva movie will get made, which is probably safe to say it won't happen, at least not now. |
There are only 3 films ever to break $500 dollars domestically: Titanic, The Dark Knight, and Avatar, and Titanic was the only one for a long time. There are very few films which have broken $300 million domestically. It would be financial suicide to make a film costing $500 million. Certainly nothing anime-based stands a chance - not even close. It would be stupid to even make an Avatar sequel or another Batman movie costing that much money. There's no guarantee that they'd come even close to making what their precessors did, and those are properties which have shown that they can make insane amounts of money at the box office, not some anime franchise that happens to have been fairly popular in the past, even if it is popular with a much large group than typical anime.
What probably happened with the script is that the writer went totally overboard, and the complexity of the sets, level of special effects, etc. which would have been required would have been ludicrously high. Whether it would really cost $500 million or not is another matter, but it seems pretty clear that the writer went all out with no thought for how practical it would be, and so the script is being rewritten. Keanu Reeves talked about this months ago, so this isn't really new news except inasmuch as he's not giving newer news.
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aereus
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:31 am
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I think that is exaggeration, considering it was just from Reeves, and the "like" number tossed in there. In comparison -- estimates place Avatar in the range of $300mil to produce, and that is probably the most ambitious film to date. (As far as total CG and post-production costs go, since almost the entire thing was fabricated on green-screen)
Still, I would rather they create an initial draft that "Thinks Big" than to lowball it and just try to shoe-horn in some more explosions.
I can see it being expensive though to create all the backdrops for the various moons, stations, etc. Epic dogfights from Spike, etc. would have to feature largely into it as well so...
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sharonlover
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:57 am
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For that money, it better be Cowboy Bebop IMAX 3D with super realistic space ships and all that jazz. I'd see it
hell i'd see it even if it sucked horribly just like I did with The Last Air Bender, simply because, I'm a sucker for something that entertains me, even if it's to make fun of a bad movie
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