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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:45 am Reply with quote
ANN has several persons with the strange family name Henshu[u]shitsu (no name according to EDICT), none of which has a Kanji name. But actually, "Henshuushitsu" would be 編集 (henshuu = editing) 室 (shitsu = room). Therefore,
Actus HENSHUUSHITSU (person, 1 staff, editing) would be another duplicate of Actas, Inc.

Koganei HENSHUSHITSU (person, 1 staff, editing, Alien from the Darkness) and
Koganei HENSYUSHITSU (person, 1 staff, editing, New Angel OAV)
should be considered wrong entries where someone tried to make a person out of a company. Which would be
Koganei Editorial Office (company, 1 staff, editing, New Angel OAV!).

Ogata HENSHUSHITSU (person, 1 staff, editing) should be considered a wrong entry where someone tried to make a person out of a company. Which one would that be? We have
Ogatahensyusitsu (0 staff),
Ogata Editing Room (5 staff, editing, including Cardcaptor Sakura)
Ogata Editing Laboratory (1 staff, editing) and even
Okada Edit Room (1 staff, editing).
The JMDB page for 尾形編集室 has just two credits for Cardcaptor Sakura, so now we know the Kanji name for this company (尾形=Okata/Okada/Ogata, 編集室=Henshuushitsu). And finally, http://movie.goo.ne.jp/cast/150312/index.html has this company with the two Cardcaptor Sakura credits and a reading of オガタ(OGATA)ヘンシュウ(henshuu)シツ(shitsu).
So I'd suggest keeping Ogata Editing Room for the time being which appears to be the most literal translation.
(And at least Ogata Productions (緒方プロダクション, 10 staff, Photographing) appears to be a different company.)

"douga" = animation, therefore
Daiichi DOUGA (person, 1 staff as Finishing) should be
Daichi Doga (company, 2 staff as Animation / Production) or
Daichi Douga (company, 1 staff, In-Between Animation)
According to the list of animation companies in Japanese Wikipedia the company name would be 第一動画 (dai-ichi douga => "the no. 1 animation [studio]").

Emuai (person, 1 staff as Finishing) should be
EMUAI (company, 22 staff as Finish Animation).

Arts PRO (person, 1 staff as Sound Production) should be
Arts Production (company, >50 staff as Sound Production)

Studio MARCH (person, 1 staff as Finish) should be
Studio March (company, 20 staff as Finish)


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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:31 pm Reply with quote
All of the following appears to be the same, probably a company:

Persons:
T. NISHIMURA (ニシムラ ティ, 9 staff for Photography)
T NISHIMURA (no kanji, 1 staff for Photography)
Tei NISHIMURA (no kanji, 3 staff for Photography)

Companies:
T Nishimura (ティ・ニシムラ, >50 staff for Photography)
T. Nishimura (no kanji, 1 staff for Photography)
Tea Nishimura Inc. (no kanji, 1 staff for Photography)
The Nishimura (no kanji, 1 staff for Photography)

The katakana string I found at D2_STATION is ティ・ニシムラ, that's what I set for the T Nishimura company.

Hotfrog knows the address of a company named 株式会社 ティ・ニシムラ (stock company T Nishimura?) but the website http://homepage3.nifty.com/t-nishi/ given there doesn't exist any more. No Wikipedia entry either.

Would it be safe to assume the company T Nishimura is the correct entry, and flag all other credits as errors?
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:12 pm Reply with quote
Devil Doll wrote:
Hotfrog knows the address of a company named 株式会社 ティ・ニシムラ (stock company T Nishimura?) but the website http://homepage3.nifty.com/t-nishi/ given there doesn't exist any more. No Wikipedia entry either.

The Internet Archive has at least a partial copy of the site:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://homepage3.nifty.com/t-nishi/
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:07 pm Reply with quote
List of their works up till 1983
http://web.archive.org/web/20050204014841/http://homepage3.nifty.com/t-nishi/page019.html

The URL implies the ティ should be read simply as T so "T Nishimura" is a keeper - just as well if it has the bulk of the credits.
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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:39 pm Reply with quote
So should I flag & add those 15 credits?
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:36 am Reply with quote
Devil Doll wrote:
Would it be safe to assume the company T Nishimura is the correct entry, and flag all other credits as errors?

No it wouldn't.
First, it's not ever safe to assume anything.
And second, "T. Nishimura" is only a duplicate/alternate name, not an error.
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Dan42
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:37 am Reply with quote
Devil Doll wrote:
So should I flag & add those 15 credits?

If you mean the ones in your first post, then yes. There's just no way whatsoever to convert staff credits to company credits.
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386sky



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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:36 pm Reply with quote
Credit transferred (added):


These 2 wrong person credits can now be hidden.


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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 1:46 pm Reply with quote
(as result of the previous discussion)

Credit transferred (flagged & added): These 23 wrong person credits can now be hidden.
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386sky



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:22 am Reply with quote
Credit transferred (added):


These 3 wrong person credits can now be hidden.
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386sky



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:40 pm Reply with quote
"kikaku" = planning, before
Hoshiyama KIKAKU (person, 4 staff for Digital Paint / In-Between Animation / Color / Final Line) should be
Hoshiyama Planning (company, >50 staff for Animation tasks).

Rakuon-sya (person, 1 staff for Sound Production) should be
RAKUONSHA (楽音舎, >50 staff for Audio tasks, as defined in Angelic Layer Ending 2 Sony Vegas Project File).
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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Done

Quote:

Already done.

Quote:

Not done - credits have been flagged as errors but have not been re-entered under a company yet.

386sky wrote:
Credit transferred (added):

Since there's only one credit for this entity, the source is the DVD and you didn't provide a source when you re-added it as a company, do you have any evidence or at least a Kanji name?
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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:49 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
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Not done - credits have been flagged as errors but have not been re-entered under a company yet.
My problem with these credits is that they have sources "DVD Credits - Ep. 4", "DVD Credits" and "[none]" which I could of course just copy to the other credit but neither validate nor back up by any own source, so I couldn't answer any questions about them in case they were still wrong. I was afraid I might even cause more confusion this way in the end. I feel responsible for credits contributed under my name, and I can't easily take that responsibility in such cases.

Should I copy them anyway as ANN doesn't provide any other mechanism than hiding and re-entering them?
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:03 am Reply with quote
I'm very reluctant to add information to my credit without a source. I haven't searched for alternative sources for these (I ran out of time yesterday).
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Devil Doll



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:04 pm Reply with quote
Easter HIMEGUMI has only one credit for Cossette no Shouzou for Art Director.

The kanji for this (according to Shirayuki) are イースター姫組, and Wikipedia lists イースター姫組 under アニメ背景制作会社 (animation background work company), as sub-item of スタジオイースター = Studio Easter. The last kanji 組 means "class, group, team". The task specification given by Shirayuki is 美術監督 = Art Supervision/Supervisor which may not necessarily be a person.

So this "Easter Himegumi" (or whatever the reading may be) is apparently a subcompany/department of Studio Easter and not a person. But as I can't provide a correct reading I can't create the corresponding company entry.

ANN already has an entry for the company Easter Yatsu Group, with just one credit for Art Direction (and "no source") but I can't see a reading of "yatsu" for 姫.
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