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Romuska
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:37 pm
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I knew this was a long time coming. It looks like no matter what happens, it's going to greatly affect AX 2010.
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bankai3232
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:40 pm
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Sad to hear.
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Fronzel
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:45 pm
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Lot of corporatespeak in this item. Feel kinda queasy.
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hikaru004
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:06 pm
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Well, business class tickets are expensive. Guess somebody wanted them to save some money and fly with the regular class.
They'll get their drama sorted out one way or the other.
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sykoeent
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:07 pm
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I think this is a good opportunity for PMX to grab these people and grow in the Fall end of the calender.
As far as AX, I really hope this doesn't affect this convention for the worse because it has no room for failure. It is in the same month as the largest multimedia convention of America and it risks being swallowed by it. Maybe the best thing to do is to hand over AX to Comic-Con International, in my opinion. If you are wanting AX to grow, then you should hand over the reigns to those that are more qualified, Comic-Con.
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bayoab
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:13 pm
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Way too much CEO bs language in his statements. Does he ever actually say anything beside "Yes, people quit. Otherwise, no comment." there?
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Yoda117
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:22 pm
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hikaru004 wrote: | Well, business class tickets are expensive. Guess somebody wanted them to save some money and fly with the regular class.
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Actually, I think the response has more to do with the precedent sent by previous CEOs. If it's not listed in the contract, it should not be assumed as a "perk" (something with anyone with an ounce of business acumen can attest to).
Lots of corporate speak, and lots more of obvious ego and sword waving. What strikes me the most, however, is the press release from Lattanzio. Very unprofessional response from someone who is supposed to be the face of the corporation.
The additional reporting regarding his request to BAM! Marketing (if true) is onerous at best. You do not ask a marketing firm for their full list of contacts... again, Business 101 (unless you're trying to undercut your contract with the marketing firm you've hired, which is also not a good way to do business long-term). Wang was correct to refuse the request, since it is a proprietary item which is probably not covered as being available to AX per terms of their agreement.
Unfortunately, without certain documentation (contracts, e-mails, etc.) it's difficult to know just what is going on, and in that regard I do not wish to take a side... yet. However, if what has been reported thus far is accurate, then I think that Lattanzio is probably doing more harm than good with his (otherwise admirable) attempts to increase attendance and raise the quality of AX as a whole.
I'm certain that we'll be hearing more about this as we head toward the Summer months.
//a tangential question of interest is whether or not the severing of the business relationship with BAM! will have with this year's guest list for AX. Depending on how OPS went between the two organizations this could have a highly negative effect in both the short, and long term.
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Sam Murai
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:26 pm
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That sounds like quite the mess, and unfortunately, like a lot of the problems you hear from other and more enlarged embattled corporations. The purported actions of the heads and the quote from the lawyer points to two issues. One, its sounds more like a sense of "entitlement" than one of benefit for the organization (and those trips to San Francisco and other expenses don't help their cause, either) and two, there should have been a statement in the rules or contracts that barred employees (upper & lower level) from utilizing company funds for travel expenses (or at the very least, provide a certain stipend for it as part of their pay for those that have to travel extensively).
Lattanzio and the others may have had the right mindset and plans going into it, but their realization of them looks to have been rough and ill-handled. Losing a great number of the staff (justifiably, if true) over the debacle shows some serious personality flaws between both sides, as well as some naivety. Neither side sounds like they knew what they were getting into, with one expecting a big corporation environment and life/work-style and the other expecting experienced leadership with (seemingly) no baggage attached (no pun intended). I hope that this doesn't lead to the dissolution of AX, but I think it is more likely that Lattanzio & Co. will move on with AX as intended while the dissatisfied former employees will organize and hold their own convention within the next year (ran as the "AX" company they believe is ideal).
A great and exhaustively researched article, though, ANN. Sounds like the kind of the thing you'd find in a newspaper (yeah, those ol' black-and-white things... ).
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tuxedocat
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:29 pm
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Quote: | One of the responses regarding this issue is that none of the previous SPJA CEOs have flown business class on AX's dime, to which Sabec responded, "That's probably true, but… you guys have may not have necessarily been in a professional enough organization to know the world from my perspective…. If you're asking a new executive to come on board that has a lot of experience in the entertainment industry… you know he's reasonably going to expect the same kind of treatment that other executives at his level receive." |
Wow. Does this quote say a lot. It is fairly obvious to me that Lattanzio and his crew resemble the CEO types found in our banking institutions. Perks. Bonuses. Cronyism. All of this entitlement justified through their legal council (above).
It seems to me that a 3% attendance increase for the past few years in an industry who's bubble had burst is not so bad. Notice that all the people who resigned are in charge of events that THE FANS like. Lattanzio's plan is probably to replace these individuals with his entertainment industry cronies, who will then program events that will tell the fans what they should be liking. Expect to pay more and get less.
I hope I am wrong, but based on the artice that is how this looks to me...
I wonder if AX Concom and BAM! should ditch SPJA all together, find another partner and create a competing event, Though I suspect neither event in such a scenario would look the same or have the same atmosphere as AX of the past.
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DrSlump
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:32 pm
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I had the same feeling when I read about the so-called 'perks'. It's sounds like "me me me" first and then everyone else. I wonder who's going to bail out AX?
Some of the staffers are not likely to staff other events probably. Seems like this has left a bad taste in the mouth of lots of people.
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UnknownFactor
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:38 pm
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sykoeent wrote: | Maybe the best thing to do is to hand over AX to Comic-Con International, in my opinion. If you are wanting AX to grow, then you should hand over the reigns to those that are more qualified, Comic-Con. |
That has to be the worst idea I have ever heard.
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sykoeent
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:44 pm
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UnknownFactor wrote: |
sykoeent wrote: | Maybe the best thing to do is to hand over AX to Comic-Con International, in my opinion. If you are wanting AX to grow, then you should hand over the reigns to those that are more qualified, Comic-Con. |
That has to be the worst idea I have ever heard. |
Worst or best? Look at what they did with WonderCon and APE up North. If anyone can do it, it's them. I've been to a bunch of cons and Comic-Con is, by far, still the best one out there AND they also have the most pull, so that means more Special Guests.
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applebread
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:47 pm
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That's a lot of corporate "me first" asshattery for a convention that's runs by the grace of its volunteers.
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UnknownFactor
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:49 pm
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sykoeent wrote: | Worst or best? Look at what they did with WonderCon and APE up North. If anyone can do it, it's them. I've been to a bunch of cons and Comic-Con is, by far, still the best one out there AND they also have the most pull, so that means more Special Guests. |
Most pull only means most financial backing. You'd be surprised how much they pay for all those guests. Plus, if you have too many guests, everyone's attention is split, unable to see everything/everyone. There can be too much of a good thing.
There's no soul to those cons, IMHO. The crew doesn't care about the con. It's all too corporate for my taste.
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Asrialys
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:57 pm
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Well, I'm sort of waiting and seeing. Although, I still do wish to return to Access Control this summer. Might not be the same without most of the people I know returning...
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