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Mad_Scientist
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:28 pm Reply with quote
Group B-1
Tank Police, New Dominion Tank Police
vs.
Seven Samurai, Samurai 7
My vote: New Dominion Tank Police

Group B-2
Team Hei, Darker Than BLACK
vs.
Black Knights, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion
My vote: Black Knights

Group B-3
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece
vs.
French Guards Company B, The Rose of Versailles
My vote: Straw Hat Pirates

Group B-4
British Library Operations Division, Read or Die franchise
vs.
Velka-Type Knights, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A
My vote: Velka-Type Knights

Group B-5
Tokyo Metropolitan Police Special Vehicles Section 2, Patlabor franchise
vs.
Shinsengumi, Peacemaker
My vote: Tokyo Metropolitan Police Special Vehicles Section 2

Group B-6
Shinesmen, Shinesman Special Duty Combat Unit
vs.
Outlaw Star crew, Outlaw Star
My vote: Outlaw Star crew

Group B-7
STN-J, Witch Hunter Robin
vs.
Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss
My vote: Parakiss Label

Group B-8
Magic Knights, Magic Knight Rayearth
vs.
International Police Organization, Giant Robo
My vote: Magic Knights

Group B-9
State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors
vs.
Special Services Division, Heat Guy J
My vote: State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors)

Group B-10
Slayers team, Slayers franchise
vs.
Homonculi, Fullmetal Alchemist
My vote: Slayers Team

Group B-11
Aria Company, ARIA franchise
vs.
Shibusen, Soul Eater
My vote: Shibusen

Group B-12
Hotel Moscow, Black Lagoon
vs.
Genshiken, Genshiken
My vote: Genshiken

Group B-13
Cyborg Soldiers, Cyborg 009
vs.
Beck, BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad
My vote: Beck

Group B-14
Crescendolls, Interstalla 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem
vs.
Yamayurikai, Maria Watches Over Us franchise
My vote: Cresendolls

Group B-15
Skull Squadron, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross
vs.
Kamogawa Gym, Fighting Spirit
My vote: Skull Squadron

Group B-16
Black Stones, NANA
vs.
Gekkostate, Eureka 7
My vote: Gekkostate
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:42 pm Reply with quote
Group B-1
Tank Police, New Dominion Tank Police
vs.
Seven Samurai, Samurai 7
Voting for: Seven Samurai

Group B-2
Team Hei, Darker Than BLACK
vs.
Black Knights, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion
Voting for: Black Knights.

Pretty much every other vote can be explained by either looking at the guides or comments involved, to a greater or lesser extent, but I do want to say a couple of specific things about this match.

Without going over the same points again...in terms of overall staying power I think the Black Knights were quite consistent as far as organizations go, which allowed them to survive and often succeed in spite of internal divisions and an admittedly pyramidal structure.

Still, I don't really expect them to get very far in terms of this tournament as a whole against some of the stronger participants.

I would say that Team Hei certainly ended up working much better as a team towards the end of their respective show, which is admirable enough and deserves proper recognition, but rainbowcourage made a crucial point about how long it took them to establish the necessary level of trust and become an actual unit, when they had started out as merely co-workers and individual operatives under the Syndicate.

Group B-3
Straw Hat Pirates, One Piece
vs.
French Guards Company B, The Rose of Versailles
Voting for: Straw Hat Pirates

Group B-4
British Library Operations Division, Read or Die franchise
vs.
Velka-Type Knights, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A
Voting for: Velka-Type Knights

Group B-5
Tokyo Metropolitan Police Special Vehicles Section 2, Patlabor franchise
vs.
Shinsengumi, Peacemaker
Voting for: Tokyo Metropolitan Police Special Vehicles Section 2

Group B-6
Shinesmen, Shinesman Special Duty Combat Unit
vs.
Outlaw Star crew, Outlaw Star
Voting for: Shinesmen

Group B-7

STN-J, Witch Hunter Robin
vs.
Parakiss Label, Paradise Kiss
Voting for: Parakiss Label

Group B-8
Magic Knights, Magic Knight Rayearth
vs.
International Police Organization, Giant Robo
Voting for: International Police Organization

Group B-9
State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors), Pumpkin Scissors
vs.
Special Services Division, Heat Guy J
Voting for: State Section 3 (aka Pumpkin Scissors)

Group B-10
Slayers team, Slayers franchise
vs.
Homonculi, Fullmetal Alchemist
Voting for: Slayers Team

Group B-11
Aria Company, ARIA franchise
vs.
Shibusen, Soul Eater
Voting for: Shibusen

Group B-12
Hotel Moscow, Black Lagoon
vs.
Genshiken, Genshiken
Voting for: Hotel Moscow

Group B-13
Cyborg Soldiers, Cyborg 009
vs.
Beck, BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad
Voting for Cyborg Soldiers

Group B-14
Crescendolls, Interstalla 5555: The 5tory of the 5ecret 5tar 5ystem
vs.
Yamayurikai, Maria Watches Over Us franchise
Voting for: Yamayurikai

Group B-15
Skull Squadron, Super Dimensional Fortress Macross
vs.
Kamogawa Gym, Fighting Spirit
Voting for:Kamogawa Gym

Group B-16
Black Stones, NANA
vs.
Gekkostate, Eureka 7
Voting for: Black Stones
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:26 pm Reply with quote
Round 1 Group B is now closed.

Results can be found here. This was a much tighter round than last time, with only two complete blowouts and only 5/16 with a spread of more than 10 votes out of a possible 32. Some of the matches which were tight a couple of days ago did spread out a bit in the end (notably the Black Knights), but even so Beck, Crescendolls, and British Library Ops all squeaked in with a minimal margin of victory and a couple of of other matches tightened up; Gekkostate wound up winning by only eight after looking for a while like they would dominate.

Anyway, next round should be up shortly. And I'll need more help to finish out the Group D Guide entries - definitely more than I got this past time! Watch the other thread for details on that.

EDIT: And on a total side note, I just finally finished watching Daphne in the Brilliant Blue over the weekend (for review purposes, of course!) and must now claim that not including Nereids-Kamchatka Branch from that series in this tournament is a gross oversight. They would have had legit second-round potential at least.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:33 pm Reply with quote
Round 1 Group C is now closed.

Please note that some group names have been updated a bit since the nominations and minigame phases, but it should still be eminently clear who’s who. Also please notice that one team has a total crap Guide entry because a) nobody bothered to write a Guide entry for them despite repeated requests and b) I couldn’t figure out from Wikipedia entries alone what all the group did that was meritorious as a team. A couple of others have decidedly weak Guide entries for the same reason. Please keep these in mind when I ask for help with Group D Guide entries in a day or two, as I have a lot of missing ones right now.

Anyway, onto the voting!

Group C-1
Grandis Gang, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water
vs.
ES Force, Kiddy Grade

Winner: Grandis Gang
Total: 18-10

Group C-2
Big Fire, Giant Robo
vs.
Akatsuki, Naruto

Winner: Akatsuki
Total: 18-10

Group C-3
Gutsy Geoid Guard, GoGaiGar
vs.
Lagoon Company , Black Lagoon

Winner: Lagoon Company
Total: 28-0 - FLAWLESS VICTORY!!!

Group C-4
Team AAA, Bus Gamer
vs.
Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise

Winner: Sailor Scouts
Total: 26-2

Group C-5
Ala Alba, Negima! OVAs
vs.
Yuki Fan Club, Fruits Basket

Winner: Ala Alba
Total: 15-13

Group C-6
Miyagami Academy Maximum Authority-Wielding Best Student Council , Best Student Council
vs.
Guardian Council, Shugo Chara

Winner: Guardian Council
Total: 16-11

Group C-7
ACROSS, Excel Saga
vs.
TERRA, RahXephon

Winner: TERRA
Total: 15-13

Group C-8
MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise
vs.
Knights of the Eastern Calculus, Serial Experiment Lain

Winner: MITHRIL
Total: 26-2

Group C-9
Union, Texhnolyze
vs.
Civilian Military Provider S.M.S, Macross Frontier

Winner: SMS
Total: 25-3

Group C-10
Squad 7, Valkyria Chronicles
vs.
Nirvana Crew, Vandread

Winner: Nirvana crew
Total: 17-11

Group C-11
Operation Cozy Family, Kyoran Kazoku Nikki
vs.
Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club

Winner: OHS Host Club
Total: 21-7

Group C-12
Department of City Security/Municipal Force Daitenzin, Excel Saga
vs.
Silvana Crew, Last Exile

Winner: Silvana crew
Total: 27-1

Group C-13
Feather Seekers, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle
vs.
Mew Mews, Tokyo Mew Mew

Winner: Mew Mews
Total: 19-9

Group C-14
Organo, Texhnolyze
vs.
Ohtori Academy Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena

Winner: Ohtori Academy Student Council
Total: 16-12

Group C-15
Band of the Hawk, Berserk
vs.
Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

Winner: Band of the Hawk
Total: 15-13

Group C-16
Racan, Texhnolyze
vs.
Wolf Brigade, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade

Winner: Wolf Brigade
Total: 26-2


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:00 am Reply with quote
Group C-1
Grandis Gang, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water
vs.
ES Force, Kiddy Grade

I am a big fan of Kiddy Grade, but the ES Force seldom acts with unity greater than at the partner level, so they're not a good contender here. While I have yet to get around to seeing Nadia, The Grandis Gang sound like they have enough teamwork going on to merit at least one win.

Group C-2
Big Fire, Giant Robo
vs.
Akatsuki, Naruto

Neither of these villainous options terribly impress me as contenders. I'll go with Akatsuki as the lesser of two evils (in terms of this tournament, anyway).

Group C-3
Gutsy Geoid Guard, GoGaiGar
vs.
Lagoon Company , Black Lagoon

GGG actually sounds like a pretty cool group, and I might be swayed to vote for them here if someone could post up a better argument than what I could come up with for the Guide entry. Barring that, I have to support what will likely be a Lagoon Company steamroller - even though I don't think they're as strong an option as Hotel Moscow.

Group C-4
Team AAA, Bus Gamer
vs.
Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise

Sorry Team AAA, but the Sailor Scouts have multiple lengthy series to establish their creds, and in this case that matters a lot.

Group C-5
Ala Alba, Negima! OVAs
vs.
Yuki Fan Club, Fruits Basket

Another lackluster match-up. The Yuki Fan Club probably rates in the upper echelon of competitors when it comes to group identity, so I'll give them consideration here.

Group C-6
Miyagami Academy Maximum Authority-Wielding Best Student Council , Best Student Council
vs.
Guardian Council, Shugo Chara

Interesting match-up; not sure which way to go on this one. Barring compelling arguments, I'll go with the Best Student Council for now because they're more entertaining.

Group C-7
ACROSS, Excel Saga
vs.
TERRA, RahXephon

Wow, the acronym match-up! (And we'll likely have another one next round regardless of who wins.) TERRA may be the better organization, but the incessant comedy value of ACROSS means that they serve their role in their respective series better.

Group C-8
MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise
vs.
Knights of the Eastern Calculus, Serial Experiment Lain

No contest here. The Knights might have had a chance against a weaker opponent, but MITHRIL has far more supporting material and substantial organization creds on multiple levels. They shouldn't even be challenged until at least the third round.

Group C-9
Union, Texhnolyze
vs.
Civilian Military Provider S.M.S, Macross Frontier

My crusade to vote out all of the weak Texhnolyze options begins! SMS deserves this one anyway, especially considering that the Union splits in two in the latter stages of the series.

Group C-10
Squad 7, Valkyria Chronicles
vs.
Nirvana Crew, Vandread

Like the Nirvana crew - like 'em a lot, in fact - but I have to give a slight edge to Squad 7 here, and think that most who have seen both series will agree. (If I'm wrong, call me out on this!) They've got chemistry and bonding which matches or exceeds that of the Nirvana crew and are arguably more efficient in achieving their goals. Like Nirvana, they have their failings, but overcome them to become a stronger group. They are, at worst, amongst the best of the military squad options in the tournament.

Group C-11
Operation Cozy Family, Kyoran Kazoku Nikki
vs.
Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club

Cozy Family sounds pretty neat, but despite not finding them to be a top contender, the Host Club is even neater.

Group C-12
Department of City Security/Municipal Force Daitenzin, Excel Saga
vs.
Silvana Crew, Last Exile

Heh. I'd like to give another vote to Excel Saga this round, but the Silvana crew is more deserving. Alex Rowe runs a pretty efficient operation.

Group C-13
Feather Seekers, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle
vs.
Mew Mews, Tokyo Mew Mew

Mew Mews, for reasons stated in the others' Guide entry.

Group C-14
Organo, Texhnolyze
vs.
Ohtori Academy Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena

I'd like to say that this is strike two against Texhnolyze, but their competition is too weak. The Student Council has little but identity going for them, so Organo gets my reluctant vote here.

Group C-15
Band of the Hawk, Berserk
vs.
Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

Heard too many good thinks about the Band of the Hawk to deny them here.

Group C-16
Racan, Texhnolyze
vs.
Wolf Brigade, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade

Now it's Strike Two against Texhnolyze for real! The Wolf Brigade actually directly appears very little in its movie, but its lingering presence, influence on the events of the movie, and one of the tournament's most potent group identities ("wolves in the shape of men" is practically their motto) are more than enough to win here.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:10 am Reply with quote
Group C-1

ES Force

Group C-2

Akatsuki, Naruto

Group C-3

Lagoon Company , Black Lagoon

Group C-4

Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise

Group C-5

Ala Alba, Negima! OVAs

Group C-6

Guardian Council, Shugo Chara

Group C-7

TERRA, RahXephon

Group C-8

MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise


Group C-9

Civilian Military Provider S.M.S, Macross Frontier

Group C-10

Nirvana Crew, Vandread

Group C-11

Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club

Group C-12

Silvana Crew, Last Exile

Group C-13

Feather Seekers, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle

Group C-14

Ohtori Academy Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena

Group C-15

Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

Group C-16

Wolf Brigade, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:51 am Reply with quote
Group C-1
Grandis Gang, Nadia: Secret of the Blue Water
vs.
ES Force, Kiddy Grade

ES Force.

Group C-2
Big Fire, Giant Robo
vs.
Akatsuki, Naruto

Akatsuki.

Group C-3
Gutsy Geoid Guard, GoGaiGar
vs.
Lagoon Company , Black Lagoon

Lagoon Company.

Group C-4
Team AAA, Bus Gamer
vs.
Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise

Sailor Scouts. They must win at least a few rounds, and while I doubt there are enough fans or just appeciators of Sailor Moon franchise to lead Sailor Scouts to full victory they do deserve it.

Group C-5
Ala Alba, Negima! OVAs
vs.
Yuki Fan Club, Fruits Basket

Yuki Fan Club. All better then Negima!

Group C-6
Miyagami Academy Maximum Authority-Wielding Best Student Council , Best Student Council
vs.
Guardian Council, Shugo Chara

Guardian Council! These kids actually work together all the time to protect Heart Eggs or cure X-eggs. They deserve to win 2 rounds before MITHRIL (will mostly likely) crushes them.

Group C-7
ACROSS, Excel Saga
vs.
TERRA, RahXephon

My vote for The Superficially Successful Organization MACROSS.

Group C-8
MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise
vs.
Knights of the Eastern Calculus, Serial Experiment Lain

MITHRIL. No competition really.

Group C-9
Union, Texhnolyze
vs.
Civilian Military Provider S.M.S, Macross Frontier

Civilian Military Provider S.M.S.

Group C-10
Squad 7, Valkyria Chronicles
vs.
Nirvana Crew, Vandread

Squad 7.

Group C-11
Operation Cozy Family, Kyoran Kazoku Nikki
vs.
Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club

Ouran High School Host Club.

Group C-12
Department of City Security/Municipal Force Daitenzin, Excel Saga
vs.
Silvana Crew, Last Exile

Department of City Security/Municipal Force Daitenzin.

Group C-13
Feather Seekers, Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle
vs.
Mew Mews, Tokyo Mew Mew

Mew Mews. Kawaii!

Group C-14
Organo, Texhnolyze
vs.
Ohtori Academy Student Council, Revolutionary Girl Utena

Organo.

Group C-15
Band of the Hawk, Berserk
vs.
Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

Band of the Hawk. Another no-brainer.

Group C-16
Racan, Texhnolyze
vs.
Wolf Brigade, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade

Wolf Brigade. Doesn't matter who wins this as Band of the Hawk will eat the winner for breakfast.
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I'm completely astounded of the results in Group B. There were 2 matchups in particular between a very old but well-known among longtime fans versus a somewhat obscure, not very popular newer title (going by series titles):
Dominion Tank Police vs Samurai Seven
and
Patlabor vs Peacemaker Kurogane (Shinsengumi)

In the first case the new title won but in the second, the old title won. I would have definitely thought the infamous Shinsengumi would win the hearts of voters, they really are an amazing group and where are all the Kenshin fans anyway? Who has even watched Patlabor in the last 10 years? I wrote the description for both of the losers in those two matchups, were my write-ups that bad? Let me try again, I demand a re-vote! Laughing

I hope the ES Force doesn't suffer the same fate in the first round at least.

EDIT: I found 3 instances where I could have easily persuaded voters in favor of the Shinsengumi if I had voted early on and added a compelling argument why they are the much better team, and it would have been more than enough to ensure their victory. I just happened to be really busy with other stuff and had to procrastinate with my voting this week. Oh well, there's a team later on in the tournament that I am going to choose over them, even if the Shinsengumi had moved on to later brackets. But I'm still mad, being the Shinsengumi enthusiast that I am.
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Ouch. Only got 9 wins. That's gonna hurt my mini-game.

Match C-1: Grandis Gang (Nadia: Secret of Blue Water) <--- VOTE CHANGED!!
After seeing some arguments, I've realized that the group cohesion, beyond the two-person squads in ES Force, aren't too strong. Despite not really accomplishing much throughout Nadia, the Grandis Gang have better group chemistry thus I will shift my support to them.

Match C-2: Akatsuki (Naruto)
I nominated them, so might as well let them stick around for this round at least.

Match C-3: Lagoon Company (Black Lagoon)

Match C-4: Sailor Scouts (Sailor Moon)

Match C-5: Ala Alba (Negima)

Match C-6: Miyagami Student Council (Best Student Council)
There's no way I'm typing up that entire name. Laughing

Match C-7: TERRA (RahXephon)
They've been able to get more done than ACROSS's efforts being bungled up by Excel.

Match C-8: MITHRIL (Full Metal Panic)
Not much is clear about the organization and structure of the Knights, so I go with MITHRIL.

Match C-9: Civilian Military Provider S.M.S (Macross Frontier)

Match C-10: Nirvana crew (Vandread)
Fun spaceship crew with great teamwork when the situation calls for it.

Match C-11: Ouran High School Host Club (Ouran Host Club)

Match C-12: Silvana crew (Last Exile)

Match C-13: Mew Mews (Tokyo Mew Mew)

Match C-14: Student Council (Revolutionary Girl Utena) <--- VOTE CHANGED!
After re-watching some episodes of Texhnolyze, I have come to realize that things in Organo aren't as cohesive as they seem with characters having their own agendas that ultimately lead to the downfall of the Organo.

Match C-15: Band of the Hawk (Berserk)
Even with spoiler[Griffith's betrayal of the group during the Eclipse], the Band of the Hawk still showed strong unity through both their highest points being a military unit for Midland and their lowest points spoiler[when disowned by the Midland King following Griffith's affair with the princess.]

Match C-16: Wolf Brigade (Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade)
Shinji's motto of "freedom" for the Racan spoiler[comes back to bite him real hard later in the series with betrayal in his ranks]. While their appearance isn't up until much later in the movie, the Wolf Brigade do well as a cohesive battle unit.


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I have a question about the mini game. Even though I submitted a bracket, can I change some of my answers here? I'm looking through my bracket and realize I've made some egregious errors and I'd like to correct them.
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As per usual when it comes to these earlier rounds, any reasoning not mentioned is going to be a combination of the guide and anything I remember about a team from nominations.

Group C-1
Voting for: ES Force, Kiddy Grade

Group C-2
Voting for: Akatsuki, Naruto

Group C-3
Voting for: Lagoon Company , Black Lagoon

Group C-4
Voting for: Sailor Scouts, Sailor Moon franchise

Group C-5
Voting for: Ala Alba, Negima! OVAs

The Yuki Fan Club? Really? This was all I could think when I saw the nomination. And yes, I admit to not being too familiar with Fruits Basket as a whole but still...really?


Group C-6
Voting for: Miyagami Academy Maximum Authority-Wielding Best Student Council , Best Student Council

Group C-7
Voting for: ACROSS, Excel Saga

ACROSS is awesome and I would have seconded their nomination if I had seen enough of the series to justify it. I haven't...but I have seen enough to ensure that they will be getting my vote for many rounds to come.

Group C-8
Voting for: MITHRIL, Full Metal Panic! franchise

I'm familiar enough with both of these to have an actual opinion. While the Knights are interesting and probably would have had my vote in another match-up, MITHRIL is just plan more important to their series and so you see a lot more of how they work.

Group C-9
Voting for: Civilian Military Provider S.M.S, Macross Frontier

Group C-10
Voting for: Squad 7, Valkyria Chronicles

Group C-11
Voting for: Ouran High School Host Club, Ouran High School Host Club

There's a reason these guys led in nominations, even if they probably aren't going to be the winners. But they just work so well as a group and have such interesting dynamics, something which is really shown well right at the end (which is one of the reasons I like the anime more than the manga).

Group C-12
Voting for: Silvana Crew, Last Exile

Group C-13
Voting for: Mew Mews, Tokyo Mew Mew

Everything I hear about the Tsubasa anime has been terribly. And so, since we can't take the manga into consideration, I am voting against the character-developed-stripped group.

Group C-14
Voting for: Organo, Texhnolyze

Group C-15
Voting for: Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

First of all, I have to ask about the
Quote:
Takeru "T.K." (aka Timmy) Ishida
part in the guide. Um, what? He is never called Timmy. Also his family name is NOT Ishida, it's Takaishi (he and Matt do indeed have different family names, despite being brothers).

Plus weren't we including the Adventures 02 kids in this group as well, since the season one kids are still around and TK and Kari are in fact main characters?

Anyway, regardless of a questionable guide entry, this is one of the strongest teams I know of. Sure, they are kids in a show aimed at kids but they go through a lot and are tested at every turn and come out of it all stronger than when they began. Yes, there is dissent along the way (thanks Matt) but that's going to happen in every group and the fact that they get through it and again become stronger, better friends because of it, is the real reason they deserve to go far.

Group C-16
Voting for: Wolf Brigade, Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
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marie-antoinette wrote:
Group C-15
Voting for: Digidestined-Adventure group, Digimon Adventure

First of all, I have to ask about the
Quote:
Takeru "T.K." (aka Timmy) Ishida
part in the guide. Um, what? He is never called Timmy. Also his family name is NOT Ishida, it's Takaishi (he and Matt do indeed have different family names, despite being brothers).

Plus weren't we including the Adventures 02 kids in this group as well, since the season one kids are still around and TK and Kari are in fact main characters?

Anyway, regardless of a questionable guide entry. . .


It might have helped if someone who is even remotely familiar with the series had written the Guide entry instead of me having to cobble it together at the last minute because no one volunteered to do it. This is one of the Guide entries I was complaining about at the beginning of my post.
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mow123



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:28 am Reply with quote
The King of Harts wrote:
I have a question about the mini game. Even though I submitted a bracket, can I change some of my answers here? I'm looking through my bracket and realize I've made some egregious errors and I'd like to correct them.


Unfortunately, this isn't allowed. Don't feel too bad, I don't like my chances for the top 3 either. More so than any tourney so far, this one has had the most toughest round 1 picks by far. While seeded, the group still see a little uneven. I see three to four strong teams in this group compared to at least 6 in group B. Key is not to blame in the slightest. The problem is that for this tournament nominations didn't sync with actual team strength.

Unlike Key, I do see the top vote getter going far, but I agree with him they do not deserve to win it all or even make it to the finals. Despite being silly, each member complements the group nicely, they provide top value laughs, they even provide some serious moments that produce drama that works to my great disbelief, and they top it off with incomparable chemistry. The Host Club just might be able to edge out their top 2 foes in this group -- the betrayal ridden Band of Hawk and the oh so popular MITHRIL.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:34 am Reply with quote
mow123 wrote:
The King of Harts wrote:
I have a question about the mini game. Even though I submitted a bracket, can I change some of my answers here? I'm looking through my bracket and realize I've made some egregious errors and I'd like to correct them.


Unfortunately, this isn't allowed. Don't feel too bad, I don't like my chances for the top 3 either. More so than any tourney so far, this one has had the most toughest round 1 picks by far. While seeded, the group still see a little uneven. I see three to four strong teams in this group compared to at least 6 in group B. Key is not to blame in the slightest. The problem is that for this tournament nominations didn't sync with actual team strength.


You won't be able to change your mini-game answers...but you CAN change your answers here...but it will affect your points in the mini-game.
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mow123



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:39 am Reply with quote
LydiaDianne wrote:

You won't be able to change your mini-game answers...but you CAN change your answers here...but it will affect your points in the mini-game.


Lydia is 100% correct -- this is what happens when I read too quickly. I like voting against my bracket, especially when the match isn't close and I would encourage you to do the same. It would be a shame if you had to vote with your bracket after learning that you made a pretty clear mistake.

And don't worry too much about your bracket -- you can mess up quite a bit and still do well as long as your late picks play out.
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