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penguintruth
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First, one does not need to be hung up on the first series to see how they botched this episode. In fact, a lot of the reasons why they botched it is because they failed to include much of the material only the manga had that would have seperated it from the first series, and even more than that, didn't even measure up to that version because it went by like this was just some side incident like the coal mine town or the train hijacking, completely disrespecting the pivitol nature of this arc. Second, spoiler[Ling is an awful character (probably the worst FMA character of all) that ruins Greed, and making him Greed was the most disgustingly bad writing in the manga, aside from bringing Envy back just to let Roy have his revenge. ] |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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I agree with Penguintruth about how this episode was handled. But I vehemently disagree with everything he put in that spoiler and that is all I am going to say. Except unless you are caught up to the very latest chapter in Japan don't read the spoiler.
However future events are future events. We don't know how they are going to handle future chapters (I certainly hope better than they handled the Greed ones). If they do a good job with future episodes I will be extremely happy. But that doesn't take away from the fact that I think this particular episode was done poorly. |
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RhymesWithEmpty
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Well, maybe that's what it's about to you, but I appreciate it for the story and characters, and view those other things as a sort of side dish. A side dish that is unfortunately taking center stage in Brotherhood and undermining the truly worthwhile elements, imo, but, eh, different strokes for different folks, I guess. And how many times are we going to have to say, "well, hopefully they include that bit in the future!" over the course of this series? It's still possible that we'll still see some things that have gone missing, yes, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to keep excusing it whenever it happens. And it's not even really what they cut out here that bothers me, it's just, like I said before, the way things played out. It felt like some kind of inauthentic, monster-of-the-week drek, which I find to be a big disservice to this arc, and the series in general. And yeah, we have a long way to go, I'm just saying I find it very discouraging to see this arc handled like this. Doesn't exactly speak of good tidings to me. But if some people liked it, well, all the better for them, I guess. |
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kikyounokanashii
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He is kind of important at the point where the manga is now, so that's probably why he's included. *Edit- late response is late |
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penguintruth
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Mason? The helper of Izumi and Sig? He hasn't appeared in the manga since the Greed arc, as far as I can remember. |
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kikyounokanashii
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He has albeit minorly spoiler[while Izumi and Sig are away he's running the shop and taking questions from the military on their whereabouts] |
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Sariachan
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I still have to re-read those chapters myself, but I enjoyed the episode while I was watching it. Of course I would have preferred an even stricter adaptation of the manga, since I'm a huge FMA manga fan, but I can live with some cuts and minor changements, especially for the first episodes. It's reasonable to think that producer(s) at BONES provided a quite strict schedule for the early part of the story, for obvious reasons. |
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Crimson_Reaper
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I have to say, I did not like this episode very much. It was just wrong in so many ways, even in Roy's minor scene! I mean? They were clearly breaking the rules of European chess, a King can only move one square! Not three to four! But yes, I agree with Penguin that it was bad to mess up the order of things, they need to make Greed look competent atleast.
spoiler[Although, I like Lin. His one of my favorite characters after Mustang and Riza!] |
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Sariachan
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^ I didn't notice they made errors in the chess game, too bad.
But as for the episode itself, I finally re-read the chapters it was based on and, even if they did cut many things, it wasn't nothing really important imho (I would have liked more Al scenes, though). People are overreacting, really. -__-' |
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Blackpeppir
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While I was really quite peeved about the way they threw the last episode together, it got me thinking about something that dawned on me when I first heard about brotherhood. It's a remake of an already popular series, a series with an anime and a manga with two vastly different stories. Watching Brotherhood, a more manga accurate retelling of the story, (I'd like to mention that they did say it'd more closely follow the manga, not adhere to it 100%) means you're likely coming into this having already read the manga. Meaning they're going to want to skim over the areas the manga and anime share to get to the new material that hasn't been animated yet. Does that mean a rushed beginning? Yes. Does that mean altering, in some instances, entire volumes to advance the plot? Yes. Can we expect this with the new material as well? You'd better believe it. If you're not happy with the way the events of brotherhood unfold, then ignore it and be happy with the manga. Enjoy what they do properly and ignore what they don't, while it can get irritating sometimes it's still a fairly enjoyable series to watch, so be happy there's a somewhat manga faithful anime in the first place.
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penguintruth
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This week's episode was a vast improvement on last week's, that's for sure. I would have preferred if the whole Dublith/Greed arc had been given four or five episodes instead of three, but this episode managed to somewhat redeem the previous, horrifyingly bad, episode.
Plus, ZOMG, Manga Sloth, Father, and little Selim! |
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Blackpeppir
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I know they covered it up really well but spoiler[knowing what Selim really is combined with the music and the added creepiness of evil children, (though that last one may be personal)] was anyone else seriously creeped out by the bit at the end?
Also, I'd probably have to agree with penguntruth on this one, they handled the this episode well enough that it almost made up for the last one. Almost. That being said, not as excited as I could be about the next episode either. It's not that I don't like the Xing characters it's just that, in my opinion, they just really feel out of place and unnecessary. It's nice to know that there's more to the FMA world than what was in the first series but they're just have that feeling about them. |
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kpk
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A very good episode, but i was a little disappointed by Father's voice.. He didn't sound like what i was imagine when i read the manga AT ALL. I thought his voice will be a lot more threating and monotone. In the end, his voice is the voice of the new (unnecessary) narrator they added to this show.
Oh yeah, and even though they already get to the point that the manga separating from the first anime and they could finally slow things down, it still seem like the next EP will be cover up 3 chapters from the manga, what the hell? |
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Erunno
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I am honestly surprised that people are expecting this. |
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penguintruth
Posts: 8501 Location: Penguinopolis |
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spoiler[Heh, all seven homunculi in one episode!]
Some further comments: I really thought the action was pretty amazing in the episode, especially anyting Fuhrer Bradley did, even when he was just talking. They pumped up the animation any time Bradley did anything. And the VA for him is still strong as ever, if not better than when he played the role in the first series. I thought it was pretty amusing in that added scene with him and Izumi that we had two returning VAs discussing something again. It was weird having Bradley and Armstrong just sort of showing up, because of the Fuhrer supposedly conducting an inspection. How could he have even known about Greed's wherabouts? That's sort of weak. I also think they made Greed out to be a little pathetic, escaping because he was teamed up on by Ed and Izumi, instead of being inconvenienced with the military's presence, like in the manga, and deciding it wasn't worth continuing. And then, ultimately, Izumi's presence proved meaningless, too. I have to congratulate Yuuichi Nakamura's performance, though. He really was an excellent Greed, even matching Junichi Suwabe at times. Father's voice sounded a tad feeble and wavery, when I expected it to be a little more deep and dry. He is voiced by Iemasa Kayumi, who played Chief Chujo in the Giant Robo OVA, so I know he's capble of good work. I'll keep listening to see if he meets my expectations this time around. I think that, overall, I'm a bit disappointed that the Dublith/Greed arc was three episodes when it probably should have been four or five, but at least this episode capped it fairly decently. |
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