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Berserkfury819
Posts: 229 Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P. |
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And everyone of us in the Sci-Fi community hated the book too. L. Ron Hubbard was not a good author. His prose was awful. Oh, and he was a nutcase. Gatsu: Think they're jumping the gun a bit on this? |
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CCSYueh
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Who says the real DB fans are whining? Are they really all that different from the fans who complain when their little fav band makes it big, "sells out"? I think the real fans are the ones with the "give it a try" attitude. Gatsu, Teens who saw DBZ in the late 90's are in their late 20's now. If they were college age then, they're older now. I see a fair share of older DBZ fans at con L Ron Hubbard was a 2nd rate sci-fi hack who apparently told another author he could make more money starting his own religion & he did, didn't he? Toriyama isn't a 2nd rate hack. |
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Copyrighted Name
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Uh, X-Men remotely resembled the source material, for starters. |
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rekoloki
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Does anybody else find this like counting your Chickens before they hatch. I mean I know alot of DBZ fans will turn out for this, but I don't know about the rest of the world. But then again, it doesn't cost much to make 2 more scripts, paper is cheap. And if you can buy two more for a couple hundred thousand from a script writter, at least if it does do well you have something to grow on.
Personally though, i'm not big into seeing a 3 part DBZ, but I would love a 3 part Cowboy Bebop if that one ends up being decent. Oh well....only time will tell, I'll go watch both. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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I personally wish the movie would have been more care-free and lighthearted in the spirit of Dragonball, but eh, I guess they wanted to turn the original story into a more "serious" deal as in the case of DBZ. Seriously, I dug the first Dragonball series and wouldn't mind them sticking closer to the source material, but right now it just seems so...I dunno...out there, you know?
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Unholy_Nny
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People like you fsked up my viewing of Lord of the Rings 2 so bad, I didn't even bother attempting to see the third one =/ |
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GATSU
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eagle:
BE's a book. And I'm guessing no one, and that the Scientologists bought the copies they printed, so they could make it look like a best-seller. But I'm talking about how they both have crappy FX, not how BE relates to people's childhoods. Berserk: Nah, a lot of people hate Toriyama, too. But again, my point is not whether or not the source material was popular, but that the directing is truly hack-tacular. Yueh: Again, teens who became adults, and who like Z, are not necessarily fans of DB, especially since the latter show bombed in the ratings here. And I'll make it clear again that I'm not trying to do a show-down between Hubbard and Toriyama. My analogy is all about the final product. |
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CCSYueh
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So you're not American? Gatsu says Americans can't like DB so you must not be. Gatsu, Battlefield Earth wouldn't have been made into a movie were it not for the Scientologists. DB fans didn't scrape up the money for DBE. They didn't make it, either. If a certain number of Scientologists weren't Hollywood types, we'd never have seen BE. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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USA born and raised, mein freund.
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GATSU
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CCS: I didn't say all American fans prefer Z over DB, but they are the majority here.
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GATSU
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On a related note (Not that polls always reflect the outcome of these things, but...):
It sort of says something when people would rather see the sequel to a boring Hanks movie than DB:E... |
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enurtsol
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Well, not much good were said prior to Transformers' release neither, but the mainstream didn't care what were said (regardless whether one thinks it's a good movie about Transformers or not). Point is, DB:E may or may not do well, but after the wild miss about Transformers, all bets with prognostications are off. Nobody is a good pundit anymore.
Two different demographics. As long as either does well with their own demographics, both can do well, even if Hannah Montana kills DB:E. Heck, a high-grossing film usually brings up the rest of the box office receipts because it brings greater interest into the theaters. (For instance: little sister wants to see <insert> because everybody else is seeing it; whole family goes to the movies (little sister can't go alone), but brother does not want to see <insert>, so he has to choose something else....)
That's understandable. In the grand scheme of things though, the mainstream and casual fans will be the main factor whether DB:E does well or not. Many hardcore Transformers fans didn't think the latest Transformers movie was something they wanted to see too, but in the end, that didn't matter. On a more recent note, nobody thought Coraline would be doing this well (the high-grossing winter trend, started by Mall Cop and continued by Taken and Friday the 13th, most likely helped it along.) |
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GATSU
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enurtsol: The movies you name-dropped which did well had simple concepts, and gave people what they wanted. DB: E is a confusing mess in the trailer alone; and it doesn't offer anything viewers can't get elsewhere. It might have had a chance, if it wasn't just a rush-job, but greed prevailed over quality control.
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Da Games Elite
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Once again, Monsters vs. Aliens is aimed more at younger children. Precious few people over the age of ten are really interested in that. DB:E appeals to a broader demographic. As for Observe and Report, well, that might take away some money, but it's not going to be any different than most other blockbusters when they come out.
And I'm sure Wolvie will suck, for a different reason. But it's still got Hugh Jackman, who, Australia aside, is a reasonable draw, compared to Chatwin.[/quote] Well, yes, I won't deny Hugh Jackman is awesome. I think Wolverine will do very well, and might very well be an awesome movie. However, like with DB:E, only time will tell.
Funny that they took a year.[/quote] They took a month for reshoots. The year was for special effects...
It's fairly certain he doesn't care, since he'll get paid either way. The question is whether the studio cares, and, judging by the lack of promotions in recent magazines, I imagine it's ready to bank it all on Wolverine, Ice Age 3, and its cut of Watchmen. [/quote] Okay, here's the thing: if Wong wants work, he'll need to produce good movies. He's not Uwe Bole in that he can just make the rent on a national law about movies; the USA doesn't have that. Believe me, this is one of his first high budget movies, and he will want to make a name for himself. And besides, Fox is mostly advertising in the East right now, with lots of stuff goin' on there. From what I've read, Fox's main priorities are Wolverine and DB:E.
Yes, and the Wachowskis liked Speed Racer a lot, too. But a shitty product is still a shitty product. [/quote] That's debatable. I personally enjoyed Speed Racer. And besides, in your last comment you said how the people involved didn't care, and now you're saying that it doesn't matter whether or not they care? C'mon! Stay consistent, man!
That's probably because there wouldn't be room for the main story, if they expanded on her character. [/quote] That's very well true, but the movie was only 100 minutes. They could have added the extra 20 to make room for her character.
She's a little young to be a flirt. Plus, she's kind of new to her powers, so...[/quote] Not really. She is new, yes, so maybe in the first one this news is so shocking she can't be flirty, but even in the sequels, she isn't in the least flirty. But mind you, all the same, it's still a deviation.
Then it's the same as the cartoon.[/quote] Yeah, pretty much. I mean, he's still a great guy in the comics, just not as perfect as he's shown in the movies and series.
Well, in the case of DB:E, the attacks are different; the motivations of the characters are different; the effing setting is different...[/quote] Hmmm...setting in both seems to be a futuristic world with flying cars and cities. Seems the same. Motivations, gather the 7 Dragonballs to save the world, avenge a fallen friend beaten by Piccolo. Nope, same there too as in the manga. They use the Kamehameha, the Mafuba, Bulma has a gun, nope, still the same. Just what are you talking about? Hmmm?
I like CYF, but I think that he'd be better as Buu. [/quote] Buu? Do you seriously thing they'll adapt past the Frieza Saga? I mean, I love Buu and all, but seriously? And in regards to Battlefield Earth, like everyone else said before: it sucked before it was a movie! DB and DBZ were beloved series long before anyone made a movie deal.
What are you talking about? EVERY movie rehashes similar concepts and arranges them in original structures. And besides, the trailer reminded me somewhat of the old Toonami promos they used to have. At least the newer one. |
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Copyrighted Name
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I don't remember prophecies about eclipses or chosen heroes in DB. Nor do I recall the Dragon Balls being created by seven mystics, or for that matter, them having the power to save the world. Just what are YOU talking about, hmm? |
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