Forum - View topicNEWS: Some Tokyopop Manga Volumes Out of Stock
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GeneralArrow
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Well Screw Diamond Comic. They're probably just taking advantage of the situation.
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Richard J.
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Geez, I hope these aren't completely cancelled. I'm buying Moonphase and I would like to get This Ugly Yet Beautiful World. My sister's been buying Tactics and Speed Grapher too. (Maybe Elemental Gelade too but I'm not sure.)
It would suck if all of these were totally gone now. I hope this is either just a reschedule or Tokyopop starting to move to a different distributor. (From everything I've heard, Diamond is annoying as hell to deal with in good times.) |
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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DEC084271 CAUSE OF MY TEACHER GN-street is supposed to be 3/10 per TRSI
JAN094444 DEMON FLOWERS GN VOL 05-street is supposed to be 4/7 per TRSI JAN094443 DEMON SACRED GN VOL 01-street is supposed to be 4/14 per TRSI DEC084256 GET BACKERS INFINITY FORTRESS GN VOL 03-street is supposed to be 3/10 per TRSI JAN094445 JYU OH SEI GN VOL 03-street is supposed to be 4/7 per TRSI JAN094448 KING OF HELL GN VOL 23-street is supposed to be 4/7 per TRSI DEC084269 TACTICS GN VOL 08-street is supposed to be 3/10 per TRSI which covers stuff I buy/pre-order. So they didn't even print enough to fill pre-orders? Or they are dropping more titles? My daughter is refusing to start any titles until they complete publication. And what's the deal with killing stuff almost at the end? I think they cancelled Satisfaction Guaranteed & Queen's Knight with only a volume or 3 left to go. They are just really trying to kill their fanbase, aren't they? Those few of us who are left will drop them, then they can join all the companies going belly up. I can sort of see Demon Sacred because that was Vol 1, but come one--GetBackers is doing that badly? |
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v1cious
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they canceled Speed Grapher? i was hoping to check it out.
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poweranime
Posts: 51 Location: Los Angeles |
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Get ready folks... TP is next to go... saw this coming months ago...
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ConanSan
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They were dead the second Del Ray came into play, Kodancha was thier last easy way to good stuff. Since then they've been stanching the bleeding to a fatal wound and, honestly, not doing a good job of it, Princess Ai, realy? And Why can't I find any of the FMP novels for trying?
So in in the imortal words, "They're already dead". |
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KanonAirHaruhiShuffle
 Posts: 199 Location: California |
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well this just sucks Moonphase and Speed Grapher are series i collect and wanted to check out the manga version for This Ugly Yet Beautiful World since i have the anime version and didn't even know the manga version was already out in America.
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tsukikage
 Posts: 68 Location: Champaign, IL |
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I can see where she's coming from, but honestly I think that sort of approach will just lead to more titles being dropped. |
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bci110
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I think it's more of the latter - it looks like that TP is planning on dropping titles, which would suck big time especially for ARIA fans as this would be the second time the manga would be kicked to the curb. I'm not ready to jump on Conan-san's bandwagon and claim TP dead just yet, but as I pointed out yesterday on the Manga forum this could be part of the fallout of the combined forces of the current recession and Borders' recent financial problems. Or maybe it could be related to Diamond Comic's new minimum order policy. I'll stay cautiously optimistic at this point and say that these volumes could be re-solicited in the future. But with the way the current market is acting I have my doubts. |
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Pirkaf
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I wouldn't panic. I'm sure the series like Aria or V.B. Rose are just postponed. They simply can't make everything in time with so many staff members fired...
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nargun
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Here's the thing: Aria v4 exceeded sales expectations. Now, we know that it was "expected" to sell well enough to make enough money for tokyopop to be worth going on with [even after factoring for opportunity cost], because else it would never have been released and the plug would have been pulled after v3.
It met those expectations, and it exceeded them handilly; clearly the title's profitable for tokyopop. Yet v5, of a line we know to be decently profitable, is being yanked. This suggests a couple of possibilities: a: circumstances have dramatically changed, and a level of popularity that was profitable is so no longer, or b: tokyopop is out of cash or some other resource[1], and can no longer support the merely "profitable" at this point, [there's also a possible c:, contract renegotiations w/mag garden &c] [1] Probably labour, but it hardly matters; it all boils down to a shortage of cash somewhere along the way. EDIT: a moderately short print run and no reprint for aria v4 inclines me to think out of cash. |
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JohnnySake
 Posts: 587 Location: Auburn Hills, MI |
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Hmmm, a given title sells out on it's first printing and they wonder what they should do. I guess they could call Marvel Comics and ask them what they did when their Spiderman comic with Prez. Obama on the cover sold out in record time. (they had a second printing) There is nothing wrong with being careful, but to talk that way just rubs me the wrong way. Again, some companies like to keep supply tight so that the demand stays ratcheted up a notch. However, to think of a positive suggestion you can always contact Tokyopop, in a constructive, well-written letter, and let them know what titles you are reading and ask them to keep them published. But now I guess it's time to hit the local Borders and try to see if they have an instock copy of Aria 3 or 4... |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
 Posts: 924 Location: Teaching Robot Women How To Love |
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I thought Moonphase was relatively popular?
And, I agree, the decision to hold off on a second run of Aria v4 doesn't bode well. Come on, Aria v5. |
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VORTIA
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One of the biggest problems in the publishing industry is overproduction. Many a company has gone under not because their works weren't popular, but because they overestimated the popularity and produced more print than they could afford to. I cannot blame TokyoPop for not wanting to be stuck with large stacks of manga they can't sell but are forced to pay for and pay to store. Hopefully, Diamond is wrong (as they often are) and these series aren't going out of production, but TokyoPop is simply taking action to protect themselves economically in this difficult market.
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Teriyaki Terrier
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Though maybe writing a letter might help, that doesn't guarentee a series will be safe. If the series doesn't sell well or isn't popular enough, more likely the series willl be cancelled regardless where the series is. About two years ago, I politely and respectfully called Nintendo every day for three months to ask them to bring Mother Three (Earthbound 2) to North America. Two years later, Mother Three still isn't availble here in the United States. So either there are other circumstances or the employees I spoke to never told their bosses of the popuarlity of the game. I don't think Tokyo Pop close just yet. This company still has some "strong" selling titles. As for Dimond, why are they even involved? |
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