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Unit 03.5-ish
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OK, so...here's my dealie. I've got a huge-ass HDTV (I think it was 52" or something, not QUITE sure) and one of those DVD players that's supposed to upscale the image, but when I watch anime DVDs on it, the picture tends to be a bit fuzzy and grainy. My TV supports 480p, 720p, and 1080i. What's the best solution to get a half-decent picture, or should I just grin and bear it?
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walw6pK4Alo
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What cables are you using to connect the two?
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Unit 03.5-ish
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An HDMI cable.
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braves
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Well, it really depends on how the DVDs has been authored. I have a 32 inch and every anime DVD that I have has some kind of mosquito noise in the background at one point or another and at varying degrees. It's just how limited the format is (and why Blu-ray is so much better). You have a much bigger TV, so I imagine that it's even worse for you.
I'd recommend on the ones that look awful to play in 480p. And for the ones that are not so bad, to play in 1080i. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Yeah but Blu-ray anime DVDs are 'spensive and most companies haven't converted to the format yet, and likely won't for some time (it wouldn't be very profitable to switch to a new format that most people still haven't completely adopted yet).
I can live with it I guess, too bad there's no way to get them to display on a large TV without a significant loss of quality. |
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Top Gun
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Do as I do and rawk the 20" CRT?
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Is there a quality difference when watching hand-drawn versus digital? Right now I'm on Escaflowne, which I'm pretty sure was done by hand, so I'm wondering if the computer-animated stuff is any sharper, even if only slightly.
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r3a93r
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my buddy has one of those players he likes it a lot he doesn't watch anime though i didn't know they had problems with screen fuzzyness with anime do they do that with anything else the few movies i watched on his i really didn't see that his tv is a little bigger than yours too.
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Unit 03.5-ish
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Well...most anime had been created with the smaller (less than 30" or so) TVs in mind because back in the day TVs bigger than that were prohibitively expensive. I think by blowing the picture up, it also emphasizes the inherent animation cel flaws as well as the formatting.
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Xanas
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It is true that newer shows where the computer is used more fair better on larger sets, and as an added bonus they also encode to smaller filesizes!
I personally have an hdtv as well (1080p) and this quality loss does annoy me a bit but if you view from further back (or use the TV as a monitor and scale the window down a bit) it's not as noticeable. TV quality stuff looks great on small devices or small crts/lcds, and this is of course the disadvantage all of us with big HDTVs will experience until HD quality material proliferates more. (It's even more a nuisance if you appreciate the ability to backup your own dvds and play them in alternative operating systems). |
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eyeresist
 Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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I hear ya, brother! No "screen door" effect or jaggies there. |
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Labbes
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I don't think it does make any difference from DVD, since both have the same resolution anyway. However, I heard that it's simpler to create Blu-Ray masters from cel-drawn animation for some reason I'm not sure about. |
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Steventheeunuch
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Man I don't want to answer all of this because it all seems so obvious so someone should come and make a better post than I.
It all depends on how the DVDs are done and when the DVDs were made. Cel animation, and in fact animation done on film, do look quite superb on Bluray, whereas a lot of shows made between 2000-now, which were done on computers rather than cels, do not have natural filmstock (correct me) and were also done at a 480p resolution and therefore are stuck at the same resolution as a normal DVD forever and ever and ever. Basically, a HDMI cable wont necessarily help because all you'll need if you're putting SD content on a HD screen (or even 720p/1080i) is component. Things will look like relative ass all depending on a few factors. That being when the DVD was produced, when the show was produced, how well the disc is authored, and what masters the encode was sourced from. All of this wont change the fact that the original source you're playing from is about 3 times smaller in resolution to the display you're using. Just saying. |
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Lee1981
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I haven't really seen a lot of anime on blu-ray so not sure how feasible that would be.
In any case, you might want to check to see if there might be something wrong with either the HDMI cable or the DVD player itself. I have a 30" CRT widescreen 1080i and an Oppo upscaliing DVD player and anime DVDs look really good on that setup; well, it all depends on the DVD transfer, as some do look better than others. If possible, you could try another HDMI cable and see what it looks like there, or otherwise maybe return the DVD player and try another upscaling player as well. |
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Unit 03.5-ish
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If nothing else, it probably is an issue with how the discs were authored; really, it's not bad enough to totally DESTROY the viewing experience, just a slightly fuzzy picture and some jaggies/blurring issues.
It's a gold-plated HDMI cable and a Phillips DVD player, so... |
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