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ximpalullaorg
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:24 pm
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It was not pointed out, that the novel is actually the fifth one. I don't like this idea of messing with the order of the books, which IMO is similar with Tokyopop's tampering of Kino's chapters. While I'm getting this, I also highly doubt this will boost the sales of the overall series.
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Oronae
Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:36 am
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I actually won't be buying this specifically because of the change in printing dimensions. At least, not until Seven Sea's re-releases the original three novels in the new format if they ever do. I am interested in reading though so I guess I'll check it out at the book store or the library.
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ryusaki
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:08 am
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From what I know Seven Seas will be releasing the first three novels in the format.
But their original printing will become a sort'of collector's item
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:04 am
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I hope the novels have some sort of coherent plot, because the anime was all over the shop and pointless to me.
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adam_omega
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Location: Seven Seas
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:42 am
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ximpalullaorg wrote: | It was not pointed out, that the novel is actually the fifth one. |
Boogiepop at Dawn was actually the sixth novel released, but chronologically, the book takes place first.
ximpalullaorg wrote: | I don't like this idea of messing with the order of the books, which IMO is similar with Tokyopop's tampering of Kino's chapters. While I'm getting this, I also highly doubt this will boost the sales of the overall series. |
Ximpalullaorg, your comparison to what Tokyopop did with the first Kino novel is completely unfounded. None of the Japanese editions of Boogiepop ever carried volume numbers on them to begin with, so the reading order is really up to interpretation much like the Narnia books.
For "Boogiepop at Dawn," we opted to not put a volume number on the book at all so that it would stand alone. Since it's the origin story and the one book that Boogiepop fans have really been wanting to read for years, and it made for a great way to reintroduce the franchise.
As for why we chose to release "Boogiepop at Dawn" before "Boogiepop in the Mirror" and "Boogiepop Overdrive," it's really because the book's content made for a stronger seller (i.e. Mirror doesn't even feature much of the core cast at all, and Overdrive is like a Godzilla movie--complete with the American Godzilla!). You have to put your best foot forward and make sure that the books you put out instantly grab people or else no one will buy the later books.
ryusaki wrote: | From what I know Seven Seas will be releasing the first three novels in the format.
But their original printing will become a sort'of collector's item |
We had plans to rerelease the first Boogiepop books as part of our Light Novel line, but we learned that our license was only for three years and we opted not to renew. So a rerelease is unlikely.
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Grico
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:31 am
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I've been waiting on this and will be buying it in the next week. I just wish they could come out a bit quicker. As far as book size, they can make it what ever size and shape they want as long as they keep releasing them and at a reasonable enough price.
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luffypirate
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:27 am
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this novel was quite badass. im enjoying the whole light novel thing. strawberry panic are my favorites someone needs to release some wolf and spice soon.
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ximpalullaorg
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:40 am
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adam_omega wrote: |
Ximpalullaorg, your comparison to what Tokyopop did with the first Kino novel is completely unfounded. None of the Japanese editions of Boogiepop ever carried volume numbers on them to begin with, so the reading order is really up to interpretation much like the Narnia books.
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Nice spin. However, Kadono published it as sixth. Therefore, he didn't want people to understand the history of Boogiepop till then. The impression I get is this was done because the general public couldn't understand a non-linear story. This is a book, not a manga. Publishing it messing with the order is something I consider highly questionable, and I don't think it'll help sales much (I bought it, but I won't read it till I get the other novels, to read it in the proper order).
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As for why we chose to release "Boogiepop at Dawn" before "Boogiepop in the Mirror" and "Boogiepop Overdrive," it's really because the book's content made for a stronger seller (i.e. Mirror doesn't even feature much of the core cast at all, and Overdrive is like a Godzilla movie--complete with the American Godzilla!). You have to put your best foot forward and make sure that the books you put out instantly grab people or else no one will buy the later books.
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Business decision, I see. Again though, there's no way to see it'll sell, and I personally think, despite liking it, that the general public will simply skip it again.
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Fear Ghoul
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:08 am
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I thought the objection that the book looks out of place on a book shelf is a bit questionable since one look at my bookshelf provides a glimpse of books with all kinds of different sizes. So what exactly are people expecting, that all books forever will have the exact same dimensions?
Boogiepop at Dawn isn't actually as stand-alone as the reviewer claims, since without the first book the reader can't understand the sections with Echoes, without the fifth book the reader can't understand the references to the Piper and the other creature (I don't have my copy with me so I can't remember the name), and without the second and third books the reader will not understand the full weight behind the conversation between Kirima Seiichi and Minahoshi Suiko. But I don't think any of that detracts from a book I would still rate as an A+. Keep up the good work Seven Seas.
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HellKorn
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:39 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: | I hope the novels have some sort of coherent plot, because the anime was all over the shop and pointless to me. |
The novels do not have any of the pretensions that the anime is weighed down by. They're more akin to action thrillers with a couple mysteries thrown in (or vice-versa), and actually have substantial characterization compared to the tedious proxies in the anime.
But, really, why don't you find out for yourself?
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Mohawk52
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am
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HellKorn wrote: |
Mohawk52 wrote: | I hope the novels have some sort of coherent plot, because the anime was all over the shop and pointless to me. |
The novels do not have any of the pretensions that the anime is weighed down by. They're more akin to action thrillers with a couple mysteries thrown in (or vice-versa), and actually have substantial characterization compared to the tedious proxies in the anime.
But, really, why don't you find out for yourself? |
Not available over here in Blighty, and I really can't be arsed to import it.
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adam_omega
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:24 pm
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Quote: | Not available over here in Blighty, and I really can't be arsed to import it. |
Boogiepop is available to international stores. It's just a matter of them stocking it.
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Andrew Cunningham
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:40 pm
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ximpalullaorg wrote: | Nice spin. However, Kadono published it as sixth. |
Actually, it was serialized in Dengeki's novel magazine, and would have appeared at roughly the same time as the fourth and fifth volumes.
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ximpalullaorg
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:51 pm
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What matters is that it wasn't meant to be the first. Hence, screwing up the order isn't something I'd call wise.
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Shiroi Hane
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:00 pm
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adam_omega wrote: |
Quote: | Not available over here in Blighty, and I really can't be arsed to import it. |
Boogiepop is available to international stores. It's just a matter of them stocking it. |
I've got all of my copies so far from Forbidden Planet (FPI).
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