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NEWS: U.S. Navy Completes Promotional Manga for Distribution


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:27 am Reply with quote
It should be really interesting to see how this goes over in Japan. Understood they'd have concerns about a nuclear powered ship being stationed off their country. Makes me wonder exactly what this manga will have. Will it simply try promote the "great" things or will it try to be fair and show the normal and no so great aspects?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:54 am Reply with quote
It looks like a quality product with top quality paper and even colours! Be interesting to see just how many of that 30,000 they actually shift, unless they give them away at the ships "open day", should they have one that is.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:31 am Reply with quote
I wonder if I should head down to yokosuka and see if I can get me one sometime... I bet they'd have them at a local bookstore or newsstand, assuming they are really distributing them around to the residents/shops.

I kinda feel like some taco-bell anyway Smile. (note, that's more in jest as the taco bell is actually on the base and you can't get in unless escorted by someone in the navy (although for a US citizen it's quite easy)).
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:38 am Reply with quote
Somehow the following lyrics start ringing in my ears:

"We have seaman ship, seaman ship, for love; We have seaman ship, seaman ship, for peace..."

Laughing

Mohawk52 wrote:
unless they give them away at the ships "open day", should they have one that is.

Methinks it's highly possible to be distributed as PR giveaways.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:12 pm Reply with quote
There are the military otaku in Japan, might be right up they're ally.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:38 pm Reply with quote
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Kaiji Kawaguchi (Eagle, Zipang), an artist who is not involved with CVN-73, created a manga called The Silent Service from 1988 to 1996; in this politically charged story, a nuclear-powered submarine under a Japanese captain declares independence from both Japan and the United States.


Well I don't know about the manga, but the anime is certainly the biggest Japanese wet dream that the country has released in long time. One submarine very graphiclly holds the entire 7th fleet hostage, all the while depicting all of the US naval commanders and sailors as bumbling retards. Taking great joy in the neutering of anything that comes against the rogue, and eventually sinking US ships. Going so far as to have the refined and rational Japanese goverment and SDF make the decision to protect the rouge captain as he is raised to national hero status. I think probably the overall message that the film was trying to achieve was a good one, but it is so clouded with "we shall rise once again against our enemy's" imagery that you really have to struggle to even see it. As it is now, it's nothing more than a call to arms level nationalistic wank fest.

I can only imagine why ANN even mentioned this when the goal of the whole program is to bring US and Japanese relations closer together, and all that story does(at least the R1 release anime version) is convey a message of "get the hell out your nothing but lower level lifeforms". Rolling Eyes

Mohawk52 wrote:
It looks like a quality product with top quality paper and even colours!


I wonder if the whole book is in color? If so, I would love to import one. But like mentioned they might not even be for sale.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:15 pm Reply with quote
wow the stars and stripes newspaper, such nostalgia. even more so that they're mentioning yokosuka naval base where i used to live for 12 years.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:

Well I don't know about the manga, but the anime is certainly the biggest Japanese wet dream that the country has released in long time. One submarine very graphiclly holds the entire 7th fleet hostage, all the while depicting all of the US naval commanders and sailors as bumbling retards. Taking great joy in the neutering of anything that comes against the rogue, and eventually sinking US ships. Going so far as to have the refined and rational Japanese goverment and SDF make the decision to protect the rouge captain as he is raised to national hero status. I think probably the overall message that the film was trying to achieve was a good one, but it is so clouded with "we shall rise once again against our enemy's" imagery that you really have to struggle to even see it. As it is now, it's nothing more than a call to arms level nationalistic wank fest.


Not to take things to OT, but heartily agree with above. I'll never quite understand how 'Zipang' usually is labeled a 'self-critical, anti-war piece' when it's anything but. In the most charitable light it could be considered something akin to 'Letters from Iwo Jima', a movie which sets out to combat Japanese moral relativism, revisionist history, and war glorification and ends up giving the viewer....moral relativism, revisionist history, and war glorification.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:51 pm Reply with quote
Goodpenguin:
To be clear, which I can see I wasn't before. I wasn't talking about Zipang, never seen it, I was talking about the Silent Service anime. I actually eventually do want to see Zipang, and I heard it doesn't take such a hard line approach, but maybe I heard wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:13 pm Reply with quote
I've read both manga but seen neither anime.

Dargonxtc wrote:
I actually eventually do want to see Zipang, and I heard it doesn't take such a hard line approach, but maybe I heard wrong.

At least in the beginning chapters of the manga -- Zipang doesn't have ridiculous scenes like spoiler[the entire carrier battle group shooting dozens of ASROC towards Yamato and all missed, or US Navy sailors manually operating Phalanx CIWS firing at Yamato's hull but the latter remained unscratched, or catapulting an unmanned F-14 Tomcat as a kamikaze attack...] However, in later chapters, spoiler[Japan started to develop its own nuclear bomb -- on a shabby freighter ship. Yeah right, handling uranium hexafluoride, one of the most toxic substance ever known to men, on an unstable deck...] Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:19 pm Reply with quote
Dargonxtc wrote:
Goodpenguin:
To be clear, which I can see I wasn't before. I wasn't talking about Zipang, never seen it, I was talking about the Silent Service anime. I actually eventually do want to see Zipang, and I heard it doesn't take such a hard line approach, but maybe I heard wrong.


Actually that's a slip of mine, I was going to make a comparison between 'Zipang' and 'Silent Service', got pressed for time, and in cutting it out left the 'Zipang' part and not the 'Silent Service' point in the post. Essentially irrelevant because you hit the problems with 'Silent Service' accurately enough to begin with.

I've posted about 'Zipang' before, and as above don't think it lives up to it's 'self-critical' billing either (starts well-meaning and gets a bit sketchy as it moves along), but it's not as openly crass as 'Silent Service' by a long-shot.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:34 pm Reply with quote
uragayduck wrote:
wow the stars and stripes newspaper, such nostalgia. even more so that they're mentioning yokosuka naval base where i used to live for 12 years.


Shocked Whoa-- that's pretty sweet. I was born there in '90, but only stayed 'till '92...I think my dad was hospital administrator there, or some office like that..

But wow, so you were on the base, too? That wouldn't have been around 18 years ago or so, right? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:37 pm Reply with quote
I remember reading that when the final choice had to be made, the Navy could have either sent this nuclear powered ship, or the USS Harry S Truman. I think they made a good choice.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:15 pm Reply with quote
Oh hay guys, is dat sum propaganda? Yays I luvs me some good old fashion cultural brainwashing! God bless America!

Land of the free!
Land of the Hamburgers!
Land of the Coke!
Land of the perpetual oppression of foreign nations through military presence!
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