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Andrew Cunningham



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:07 am Reply with quote
Really feels like everyone has Mandela effected Okamiden out of existence. We already HAVE an Okami sequel! This will be the third one!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:17 am Reply with quote
Andrew Cunningham wrote:
Really feels like everyone has Mandela effected Okamiden out of existence. We already HAVE an Okami sequel! This will be the third one!


Okamiden kinda has a Sticker Star Story thing going for it, but in its case that's midly earned. Not because it's bad, but because Clover didn't make it--and Kamiya wasn't involved with it. I love Chibiterasu and I resent folks dismissing the game offhand for being on the DS, but I get why it might get some skewed glances. Even the producer called it more of a spin-off, instead of a sequel.
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As per Bandai Namco's Tales Of... 30th Anniversary livestream earlier this week, Bandai Namco promises they'll be releasing remastered Tales Of... games at a "fairly consistent" rate.

Does that include Tales of Destiny 2, a direct sequel to Tales of Destiny? That one missed the Western audience completely, instead we got Tales of Eternia, which Namco 'conveniently' renamed Tales of Destiny II here in the West...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:43 am Reply with quote
This was a pretty good week for me. I have a lot of Tales of games that I would love to play, so these remasters are coming at the right time, and now I have an excuse to finally play Okami.
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We've seen more than a few of those here at This Week in Games, and we try to put each one in the spotlight whenever possible. ONE getting an American release


I don't remember This Week In Games ever mentioning the ONE. visual novel at any point. Was there a column that did and I just missed it?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:44 pm Reply with quote
Andrew Cunningham wrote:
Really feels like everyone has Mandela effected Okamiden out of existence. We already HAVE an Okami sequel! This will be the third one!


Probably doesn’t help that it’s a Gaiden game hence the the partial pun in the title.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 12:58 pm Reply with quote
Part of me wanted Elden Ring 1.5 to win just because it would've been really, really funny. Probably for the best that it didn't.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 1:56 pm Reply with quote
FinalVentCard wrote:
I love Chibiterasu and I resent folks dismissing the game offhand for being on the DS, but I get why it might get some skewed glances. Even the producer called it more of a spin-off, instead of a sequel.


That's why I'm hoping we get some nod to them, I wouldn't be surprised if the plot diverges completely and contradicts Okamiden, but acknowledging that those characters exist in some form would make me really happy, even just a little cameo to see them in full HD glory.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:40 pm Reply with quote
It's always hilarious when people take Keighley's latest trailer fest so seriously. Apparently Game Science, the Wukong studio, made a giant deal of losing claiming they wrote their GOTY acceptance speech two years ago and then questioned how awards are picked. Dude, you're complaining about the gaming equivalent of the VMAs. Save that kind of drama for the DICE Awards, which are managed by people who don't have complete disdain for designers and artists. Keighley's had ten years to get this into a proper awards show and he can't do it. He's done, it is just a hype event until the end of time. Good day, sir.

-Okami: Neat, but I'm hesitant to get too excited because Kamiya has two glaring issues: 1) he has a gigantic ego and 2) he refuses to stop making the same designer mistakes like the tedious minigames despite years of complaints because of said ego. Though ironically a game like Okami is better-suited for that kind of variety pack design due to it being about being a big epic adventure. Doesn't work so well for games like Bayonetta and The Wonderful 101. Still, something to keep track of. Hoping to see what Chibi and Issun have been up to.

-Onimusha: New Onimusha, neat; now which dramatic actor is the character gonna be based off? Maybe Ryuunosuke Kamiki, Takeru Satoh, possibly an appearance from Hiroyuki Sanada? I also know way too much about Japan when I recognized Kiyomizu-dera, confirming the game is set in Kyoto. And yes, I'd rather we just have an action game as Nioh already has the Samurai Souls-like niche covered. As for other CAPCOM properties, I'd say Darkstalkers is the obvious revival choice. Put some new monsters in it like a version of Hasshaku-sama, a banshee, and an obvious Toxic Avenger homage.

-Ninja Gaiden: About damn time, interesting that they're going with an apprentic instead of Ryu. Says something about him when all this is going on and thinks "Eh, you can handle this, I take care if the BIG stuff." Hopefully we get another hack and slash at all times, and with a camera that isn't half drunk.

Anyway, now to watch people go "are you KIDDING me???" when they play Akira in Virtua Fighter only to realize his difficulty curve is so steep it has an overhang.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 4:43 pm Reply with quote
It will always be weird to me that an awards show, which is meant to celebrate achievements from the past year, is built around dangling the next shiny new thing in front of the audience. At this point, I think they are trapped. It sounds like this year had extremely good viewership, but I'm sure most would tell you they are there for the announcements. That ad revenue will dry up fast if they don't maintain the eyeballs, so now game companies have the VGAs right where they want them.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 5:17 pm Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:
It will always be weird to me that an awards show, which is meant to celebrate achievements from the past year, is built around dangling the next shiny new thing in front of the audience. At this point, I think they are trapped. It sounds like this year had extremely good viewership, but I'm sure most would tell you they are there for the announcements. That ad revenue will dry up fast if they don't maintain the eyeballs, so now game companies have the VGAs right where they want them.


Exactly, Keighley wanted to be mainstream so badly he's essentially trapped the awards into being a hype machine for all eternity. And a lot of people keep skipping them, like 2K revealing Grand Theft Auto VI on their own and Nintendo just putting a couple of sizzel reel trailers because it's also not a good place for announcements to be honest (too much noise and terrible pacing). Hope it was worth it, Geoff
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:38 pm Reply with quote
I think people may be looking at awards shows with rose-tinted glasses. "Celebrating achievements" as a framing for a marketing event is by far the norm. It's possible that, with enough time, prestige, etc. an awards show can make itself worthwhile just for being an awards show, but the Oscars are very, very old. No show is going to be able to just claim that level of prestige. I'm not paying anyone enough to support a non-marketing game awards show. Are you?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 6:53 pm Reply with quote
There was so much good stuff out of the Game Awards and in general, I feel that Okami comic! Laughing
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Yttrbio wrote:
I think people may be looking at awards shows with rose-tinted glasses. "Celebrating achievements" as a framing for a marketing event is by far the norm. It's possible that, with enough time, prestige, etc. an awards show can make itself worthwhile just for being an awards show, but the Oscars are very, very old. No show is going to be able to just claim that level of prestige. I'm not paying anyone enough to support a non-marketing game awards show. Are you?


The D.I.C.E Awards do just that and have been running since 1998.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:59 pm Reply with quote
Blanchimont wrote:
Does that include Tales of Destiny 2, a direct sequel to Tales of Destiny? That one missed the Western audience completely, instead we got Tales of Eternia, which Namco 'conveniently' renamed Tales of Destiny II here in the West...


There's also the PS2 remake of Tales of Destiny the west never got. I would guess probably not though at least for western releases of games that never had an official English translation. Both games do have an unofficial English patches though.. and they'll probably focus on the HD era of games before going back to the retro stuff. I hope we get the International PS2 version of Abyss rather than the 3DS version if it ever comes to Steam or modern consoles.

AiddonValentine wrote:
It's always hilarious when people take Keighley's latest trailer fest so seriously. Apparently Game Science, the Wukong studio, made a giant deal of losing claiming they wrote their GOTY acceptance speech two years ago and then questioned how awards are picked. Dude, you're complaining about the gaming equivalent of the VMAs. Save that kind of drama for the DICE Awards, which are managed by people who don't have complete disdain for designers and artists.


I think all award shows are kind of flimsy and not worth getting worked up over. It's all opinion and in most cases it's a small group of critics or personalities who get to make these calls. So if you know what the gaming media's general stance on things is you can pretty accurately guess the results. Which is why that bit about Game Science is strange since it was obvious Black Myth Wu Kong was never going to win because of how much the gaming media have been maligning Game Science for the past year and was pretty open in not liking them. It's like people who were surprised Hogwarts Legacy got shut out of last year's TGAs when the general opinion of the press and media was pretty obvious.
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