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WatcherZer
Joined: 29 Dec 2016
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 Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:03 pm
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I watched the initial episode dump, a couple were good like the Sifu and Crossfire episodes, while the Aeternum one despite being a bit like a camp mobile game advert trailer (think Clash of Clans or Forge of Empires) was quite good. The Unreal Tournament one was average, wasnt good but wasnt bad. The Warhammer 40k one was disappointing, just an average fan-film in narrative quality, the D&D one was another straight up trailer ending with a movie pose charge against the god Tiamat. The Pac-Man one which was similar to the Winnie the Pooh horror films was so bad it should never have been released, it seriously hurts the brand.
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WANNFH
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:13 pm
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| WatcherZer wrote: | | The Pac-Man one which was similar to the Winnie the Pooh horror films was so bad it should never have been released, it seriously hurts the brand. |
Considering it was actually turned out to be a pilot episode reveal for the new Pac-Man game, I kinda doubt about Bamco think too highly about Pac-man brand...
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Arale Kurashiki
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:57 pm
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What the heck does "hurting the brand" even mean here? Is Pac-Man's reputation on the line? Are people seeing that episode and going, "I hate Pacman now!"? Do you have stocks in pacman?
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MFrontier
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:36 pm
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I hope they better pace out some of the episodes but I'm curious what games they'll use next (and hopefully it isn't just a Sony showcase).
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:12 pm
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| WatcherZer wrote: | | I The Pac-Man one which was similar to the Winnie the Pooh horror films was so bad it should never have been released, it seriously hurts the brand. |
Look at the shit that went down with Namco Bandai & ATGames (yes the same ATGames responsible for those terrible Sega Genesis systems from last decade) over the royalty rights to Ms.Pacman.
That’s done more damage to the brand than this has.
Last edited by BadNewsBlues on Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
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mdo7
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Location: Katy, Texas, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:15 pm
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I'm seeing a lot of hype over this series, I have this on my watchlist but I haven't got chance to watch the 1st episode yet. I really need to start watching this show whenever I have a chance.
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WatcherZer
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:20 pm
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The Pac-Man episode was an R18 gorefest, thematically similar but very different visually to the announced game. The Secret Level showrunner Tim Miller said they struggled with how to adapt the Pac-Man and it went through several complete rewrites.
Yes there are some that love the violence but no it didn't go down well, Polygon called it "traumatizing for kids", Old School Gamer Mag said:
| Quote: | | Of all the Secret Level shorts, Pac-Man had by far the best excuse not to engage in stereotypical video game violence, or even genre staples like boss fights, to instead just be a ghost story about a maze that demands to be completed simply because it’s there. That’s plenty scary on its own- but the short barely even uses the ghosts! This is especially odd, since the fairly obvious twist ending both implies where the ghosts came from and also why they have any interest in trying to stop Pac-Man from finishing the maze at all. Episode 106 of Secret Level isn’t really bad so much as it could have been a whole lot better. |
IGN said:
| Quote: | | In the single worst episode of Secret Level, the iconic character is crammed into a maze of generic, gritty, sci-fi adventure gore. |
The New Pac-Man game is a spinoff of the Secret Level episode rather than the Amazon episode being created to promote it, Secret Level episodes have apparently been in production for over 5 years and Namco started working on the new Pac-Man game 4 years ago after beginning the collaboration on the show.
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veemonjosh
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:24 pm
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| WatcherZer wrote: | |
The New Pac-Man game is a spinoff of the Secret Level episode rather than the Amazon episode being created to promote it, Secret Level episodes have apparently been in production for over 5 years and Namco started working on the new Pac-Man game 4 years ago after beginning the collaboration on the show. |
The game came first, according to Tim Miller:
| Quote: | | "When we talked to the developers, they said, 'You can do whatever you want for Pac-Man, but can we show you what we're doing for the next game?'" series creator Tim Miller tells Entertainment Weekly. "What they showed us was so f---ed up and off the hook. It was a swordsman wandering an apocalyptic wasteland, Pac-Man was a mobile gun platform, and the ghosts were these mutant things. It was so f---ed up! If you gave me a million years to guess what the next Pac-Man game would be, I wouldn't have got there." |
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Covnam
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 11:54 pm
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I'm surprised since I've only heard mixed things, but I guess they probably only care about the streaming numbers.
Hopefully the second season takes what works and drops what doesn't. It'd be nice to see a larger variety of style too.
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YackDe
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:10 am
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Some of these episodes are weirdly slapdash. Like the Exodus episode is so clearly not a story designed for a 12 minute short, it comes across like something hastily put together in an attempt to drum up interest in a game that's not even out yet.
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WANNFH
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:11 am
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| WatcherZer wrote: | | The New Pac-Man game is a spinoff of the Secret Level episode rather than the Amazon episode being created to promote it, Secret Level episodes have apparently been in production for over 5 years and Namco started working on the new Pac-Man game 4 years ago after beginning the collaboration on the show. |
Adding to the fact that it is big fat lie and Shadow Labyrinth was in development already for some time already before the episode got produced, as Veemojosh already provided Miller words about that Bamco already shown footage to the Secret Level team before the episode been outlined - while Secret Level maybe even took 5 years to produce, even the featured game list in the episodes totally done way later than that - as it featured Exodus, which wasn't even in real production before 2020, let alone the picks for the show like Sifu (the game from nearly unknown indie studio at the time which wasn't revealed until 2021) or Concord (which while been according to the word of developers was in development for 8 years, not even got real backup of Sony before 2021) barely made any sense if they are got picked from the first days of production in 2019.
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