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MFrontier
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Guessing for Pidge?
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:59 am
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| MFrontier wrote: | | Guessing for Pidge? |
There’s reports going around that the movie will star five new characters not using the names from the original series. Ostensibly (the report is from attendees at the VoltCon 2023 panel) it’s because they wanted the writers to have more freedom with the script and not be stuck with the familiar archetypes. Some however suspect it’s being done to ensure a complete divorce from the Legendary Defender debacle, so no one compares the characters to the characters from that.
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power moon
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:01 am
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| Beatdigga wrote: |
| MFrontier wrote: | | Guessing for Pidge? |
There’s reports going around that the movie will star five new characters not using the names from the original series. Ostensibly (the report is from attendees at the VoltCon 2023 panel) it’s because they wanted the writers to have more freedom with the script and not be stuck with the familiar archetypes. Some however suspect it’s being done to ensure a complete divorce from the Legendary Defender debacle, so no one compares the characters to the characters from that. |
That'd be weird because the characters in Legendary Defender are just adaptations of the ones from the original series (With the exception of Sven in favour of Shiro), changing the names of the characters because of that would so odd. I even think i remember a producer of Wolrd Event Producitons saying they actually liked Legendary Defender, so it would make that theory make even less sense.
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Emerje
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:14 am
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| power moon wrote: |
| Beatdigga wrote: |
| MFrontier wrote: | | Guessing for Pidge? |
There’s reports going around that the movie will star five new characters not using the names from the original series. Ostensibly (the report is from attendees at the VoltCon 2023 panel) it’s because they wanted the writers to have more freedom with the script and not be stuck with the familiar archetypes. Some however suspect it’s being done to ensure a complete divorce from the Legendary Defender debacle, so no one compares the characters to the characters from that. |
That'd be weird because the characters in Legendary Defender are just adaptations of the ones from the original series (With the exception of Sven in favour of Shiro), changing the names of the characters because of that would so odd. I even think i remember a producer of Wolrd Event Producitons saying they actually liked Legendary Defender, so it would make that theory make even less sense. |
Yeah, I'd wager this is just Amazon not wanting to do something that could be compared to what Netflix already did and less about the success or failure of their series. Basically they want to make it their own. We'll see if it's still recognizable.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:27 pm
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I feel like Voltron is one that could easily work in live action because the plot is pretty simple and episodic, the setting isn't overtly Japanese, and it's already heavily influenced by Super Sentai and toku shows.
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YagamiBlackstone255
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:47 pm
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My reptilian hind brain is happy to see everyone hates VLD. I hate it so much.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:42 pm
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| power moon wrote: | |
That'd be weird because the characters in Legendary Defender are just adaptations of the ones from the original series (With the exception of Sven in favour of Shiro), changing the names of the characters because of that would so odd. I even think i remember a producer of Wolrd Event Producitons saying they actually liked Legendary Defender, so it would make that theory make even less sense. |
Bob Koplar, WEP’s president, said during VoltCon 2020 in an interview available on YouTube as diplomatically as possible that the reason the Dreamworks attempt at making a live-action Voltron didn’t work was because Dreamworks “did not get Voltron.” He also has at other VoltCon panels said that he wants the movie to be more like his father’s Voltron, i.e. the 1984 original.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:45 pm
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It seemed like most of the online hate for the modern Voltron came from fandom drama and shippers mad their headcanons never became canon or disdain from old school fans that the reboot was popular with Tumblr fangirls and the show itself is not really that worse than other modern serialized cartoons.
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Davy Sprocket
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:46 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | It seemed like most of the online hate for the modern Voltron came from fandom drama and shippers mad their headcanons never became canon or disdain from old school fans that the reboot was popular with Tumblr fangirls and the show itself is not really that worse than other modern serialized cartoons. |
I heard some of that crazy stuff about the fandom blackmailing the staff but my issue with the show was it just wasn't very interesting and seemed to dislike the concept of being a giant robot show. It's like they only worked on Voltron because it had a recognizable IP name and the showrunners would rather do an original space adventure show but had to have an IP stuck to it otherwise executives wouldn't greenlight it.
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power moon
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:56 pm
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| power moon wrote: | |
That'd be weird because the characters in Legendary Defender are just adaptations of the ones from the original series (With the exception of Sven in favour of Shiro), changing the names of the characters because of that would so odd. I even think i remember a producer of Wolrd Event Producitons saying they actually liked Legendary Defender, so it would make that theory make even less sense. |
Bob Koplar, WEP’s president, said during VoltCon 2020 in an interview available on YouTube as diplomatically as possible that the reason the Dreamworks attempt at making a live-action Voltron didn’t work was because Dreamworks “did not get Voltron.” He also has at other VoltCon panels said that he wants the movie to be more like his father’s Voltron, i.e. the 1984 original. |
He was specifically talking about the movie crew at the time, he also said in that interview that the crew of VLD actually get Voltron as well. Also that latter quote would contradict the idea that it would be 5 brand new characters and not just the originals with Sven instead of Shiro.
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power moon
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:57 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | I feel like Voltron is one that could easily work in live action because the plot is pretty simple and episodic, the setting isn't overtly Japanese, and it's already heavily influenced by Super Sentai and toku shows. |
Also there's Transformers and Pacific Rim too.
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power moon
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:58 pm
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| YagamiBlackstone255 wrote: | | My reptilian hind brain is happy to see everyone hates VLD. I hate it so much. |
I liked that show, ending and all.
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YagamiBlackstone255
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 6:52 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | It seemed like most of the online hate for the modern Voltron came from fandom drama and shippers mad their headcanons never became canon or disdain from old school fans that the reboot was popular with Tumblr fangirls and the show itself is not really that worse than other modern serialized cartoons. |
No, actually, there is plenty else to hate about it, how it was intended to be progressive but they killed the one gay character and the only main character to die was the Black coded princess, how shoddy the robot fights are, how pathetic and badly written this incarnation of Voltron is, the fat jokes...
The Owl House is way better and got a much more unfair hand dealt to it, that should have lasted 78 episdodes.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:36 pm
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| Davy Sprocket wrote: |
| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | It seemed like most of the online hate for the modern Voltron came from fandom drama and shippers mad their headcanons never became canon or disdain from old school fans that the reboot was popular with Tumblr fangirls and the show itself is not really that worse than other modern serialized cartoons. |
I heard some of that crazy stuff about the fandom blackmailing the staff but my issue with the show was it just wasn't very interesting and seemed to dislike the concept of being a giant robot show. It's like they only worked on Voltron because it had a recognizable IP name and the showrunners would rather do an original space adventure show but had to have an IP stuck to it otherwise executives wouldn't greenlight it. |
Essentially. Between it and Gen:Lock, there was this weird subgenre of “western writers making mecha shows but finding mecha as a concept stupid.” The other thing those shows had in common? They were all merchandise and ratings flops.
I hate Legendary Defender, I’m happy it’s about to disappear from Netflix forever, but that has to do with the fact that the show hated giant robots and wanted to be a show about commandos in a space opera. It’s my hope Koplar’s words about wanting to be more like the original means more giant robot action. The film could be a Combattler V adaptation otherwise, it would probably be more entertaining than VLD.
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Emerje
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:52 pm
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| Davy Sprocket wrote: |
| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | It seemed like most of the online hate for the modern Voltron came from fandom drama and shippers mad their headcanons never became canon or disdain from old school fans that the reboot was popular with Tumblr fangirls and the show itself is not really that worse than other modern serialized cartoons. |
I heard some of that crazy stuff about the fandom blackmailing the staff but my issue with the show was it just wasn't very interesting and seemed to dislike the concept of being a giant robot show. It's like they only worked on Voltron because it had a recognizable IP name and the showrunners would rather do an original space adventure show but had to have an IP stuck to it otherwise executives wouldn't greenlight it. |
To be fair, the original Voltron (and most giant robot shows of the time) treated the bot as the finale and not the centerpiece. Most (not all, but most) episodes were around 80% about the humans and Voltron was the climax to resolve their Robeast problem. VLD basically did the same thing.
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