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Sasuke149
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:57 am
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Daidan12 wrote: |
Sasuke149 wrote: | A bit controversial, but I enjoy some tragedy in my endings. The conclusions of xxxHolic and Tokyo Babylon were perfect for me. |
If you are talking about the original xxxHolic, yeah the ending is perfectly tragic, somewhat romantic... I haven't checked if CLAMP even bothered to finish xxxHolic Rei in years, I really hope so, what they were doing there broke my heart even more but it was interesting. |
Yup, the original. Rei is still ongoing as far as I know.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:07 pm
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Gem-Bug wrote: |
My love for the first arc is why I unabashedly enjoy the Fullbring arc(minus the Captains jumping in at the end); it's urban horror/supernatural setting is really interesting and a lot of that is lost when they move on. It's also why I really enjoy JJK; most of the series is like that initial arc of Bleach if they never left for the Soul Society(though that arc rules). |
I agree! It felt like a refreshing return to the vibe at the very start of the series (well at least until Kubo fell back into some of his bad tendencies and Ginjo pulled that ridiculous heel turn). It was super frustrating when the same old Soul Society officers showed up at the end, just like always. I've heard rumors that Kubo's editors pressured him into reintroducing them because of their popularity, which would be nonsensical if true. You'd think his huge success would have earned him the right to have the final say on such decisions.
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redvelvetdoll
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:41 pm
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Sasuke149 wrote: |
Tokyo Babylon |
Sasuke149 wrote: | Saiyuki Gaiden |
Some of my favorite endings ever, good taste
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Dr. Wily
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:59 am
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This was a tough one to get through because I kind of had to keep averting my eyes and scrolling past stuff whenever I saw a show I'm still watching/reading start to be discussed but I think I managed well enough
Anyway as far discussing bad anime endings I'd like to bring up kind of a weird one because its very existence is already kinda controversial but well... I liked the end of Full Metal Alchemist. The 2003 one that veers off from the manga. I know it gets consigned to the dumpster of forgotten animes these days due to Brotherhood's popularity and "proper canon" ending, but '03 had a lot going for it in my opinion.
...then the movie came out. Man Conqueror of Shamballa was some hot garbage and it is the one part of the entirety of that franchise that I do not want to speak of again.
Quote: | Except for Detective Conan. That little twerp will outlive us all. |
I keep saying that for Luffy. I know Oda's said the story is nearing the end but I'll believe it when I see it. I feel like after he dies (hopefully a long time from now), Oda will rise like a lich and just keep writing. On my deathbed Luffy will get a new powerup and I'll say "sounds neat" before shuffling off this mortal coil.
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Nev999
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:13 pm
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I thought we were talking manga endings, otherwise I'd have more--Utena, Cowboy Bebop, Princess Tutu, A Place Further than the Universe...
Quote: | Anyway as far discussing bad anime endings I'd like to bring up kind of a weird one because its very existence is already kinda controversial but well... I liked the end of Full Metal Alchemist. The 2003 one that veers off from the manga. I know it gets consigned to the dumpster of forgotten animes these days due to Brotherhood's popularity and "proper canon" ending, but '03 had a lot going for it in my opinion. |
Not an unpopular opinion here. Probably to do with age demographics imo, 03 is a big and often "gateway" anime for people in their 30s and older (the age of a lot of the staff and a good chunk of the userbase on here, just from observation, don't have hard stats obviously) while Brohood was often the gateway for younger people (or people who got into anime in college like me). (idk if it still has gateway status for Gen Z though). Whenever I've seen the manga/Brotherhood mentioned on the site there's a negative comparison to 03 in there. Kind of sucks that a well-loved and tightly plotted work by one of the most prominent female shonen mangaka in the biz can't ever be talked about without that kind of comparison here, tbh, but it's okay for people to like what they like and don't like what they don't like. And there's examples of the reverse outside this site, obviously.
(I'm also not accusing you of doing this at all tbh, just letting you know it's not controversial here and then going on a tangent).
It's far from forgotten, people still argue about it constantly all over the internet. Does suck about the streaming situation though.
But also I don't think the correct "canon" ending exists. 03s is canon to 03, the manga's is canon to the manga. Neither is inherently more legitimate, it really is just personal preference.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 12:55 pm
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Dr. Wily wrote: | Anyway as far discussing bad anime endings I'd like to bring up kind of a weird one because its very existence is already kinda controversial but well... I liked the end of Full Metal Alchemist. The 2003 one that veers off from the manga. I know it gets consigned to the dumpster of forgotten animes these days due to Brotherhood's popularity and "proper canon" ending, but '03 had a lot going for it in my opinion.
...then the movie came out. Man Conqueror of Shamballa was some hot garbage and it is the one part of the entirety of that franchise that I do not want to speak of again. |
Heh, I have a good friend who despises that movie with the fire of a thousand suns. And I can't blame her for it: when you turn Maes Hughes into a literal Nazi, you have a lot to answer for. Poor Winry got royally screwed over too. Like you I thought that the original anime ending was great, and I really liked how it was a culmination of the themes of brotherly love and mutual sacrifice that were the series' emotional core. Hell, if anything I thought it did a better job in that regard than the manga ending as portrayed in Brotherhood, which I felt wrapped things up with almost too neat and tidy of a bow. Even though it ostensibly wasn't complete, the 2003 series' ending stands well enough on its own for me, and Shamballa is something best left ignored.
Quote: | I keep saying that for Luffy. I know Oda's said the story is nearing the end but I'll believe it when I see it. I feel like after he dies (hopefully a long time from now), Oda will rise like a lich and just keep writing. On my deathbed Luffy will get a new powerup and I'll say "sounds neat" before shuffling off this mortal coil. |
One Piece sits in such a strange place for me. I've been adventuring with the Straw Hats for over 15 years now, and there's a big part of me that wants to get to the ending so that I can be sure it happens in my lifetime...but there's an equally-big part of me that wants to keep sailing with these goofballs forever. Either way, we're not quite at that ending yet, but we're definitely in the beginning of the ending, if that makes sense. I have no doubt in my mind that Oda is going to bring things home in spectacular fashion.
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tintor2
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:34 am
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Tokyo Babylon ending on tragedy would have worked well but the final chapter involving Subaru on a quest to meet Seishiro again felt like a cliffhanger and we had to wait until X's 16th volume to see such conclusion sadly. The PSONE game also gave Subaru his own ending different from the manga or tv series.
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shosakukan
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:55 am
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residentgrigo wrote: | Do people even know that one of the most well-known comics of all time goes on and on and on after its iconic ending despite losing its titular premise? Obscurity and Cub Part 1 & 2. |
I have read Shin Kozure Ōkami and Soshite - Kozure Ōkami Shikaku no Ko.
Since I had read papers by Professor Murayama Terushi on Jigen-ryū, Tsumoto Yō's Satsunan Jigen-ryū novella, and Tomi Shinzō's Satsunan Jigen-ryū manga, it was interesting to see Jigen-ryū depicted in them.
Also, it is interesting that early Mori Hideki wrote and illustrated Adachi Mitsuru-style shōnen manga, which I read when they were released. As Shimamoto Kazuhiko has said, the Adachi virus might actually existed.
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