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AiddonValentine
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Crunchyroll going full-on villain ever since they got their precious merger with Funimation. Absolutely appalling and tyrannical.
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RemGalleuSimp
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Hmm feel like there's more going on here than what's stated by Post being that reprisals are happening more and more even when an IP jumps owners etc.
Perfect example is in a few hours when the Black Clover movie drops, its clear from the dub trailer that its the OG cast most if not all are Texas based with all 170 episodes of Black Clover being done in house at Funimation non-union while the movie is on Netflix which means its under the Netflix dubbing agreement which means it must be a union production so the whole 'its cause the game would be union' is well a stretch to put it nicely. I'm assuming there's legal reasons or something it wasn't stated why the full contract wasn't shared but the fact that some of the contract was shared with ANN but not the rest doesn't really help anything for Post's side especially since the legal expert who's used in this piece said that reprisal restrictions if they exist would be in another part of the contract and at the end of the day if Post signed a contact that had restrictions that's on her. Right now its just one side making claims with no real proof either way. Not defending CR here (They do a lot of shady & shitty stuff) just seems like its stretch / easy outrage bait to scream 'cause it would have been a union dub' when there's a number of recent examples of reprisals still happening even when CR looses the IP or aren't involved in a project for an IP they dubbed before and like I said above seems like there might be more going on when it comes to this. Last edited by RemGalleuSimp on Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:36 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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MFrontier
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This is so weird. You'd think it'd just be simple to have the anime cast reprise their role here. Heck from what I've seen it seems like the game VA's are LA too, so...I dunno.
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Primus
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There's a lot in play here that might not be obvious. Crunchyroll didn't produce Tower of God's dub in-house in Texas. It was outsourced to Studiopolis. The LA actors are the ones who've been pushing the unionization topic more than anyone else. What's the likelihood of them doing a public revolt if CR asks them to come back for a non-union dub of season 2 after they did the game under a union contract? I'd say that's almost guaranteed to happen. "If Netmarble can afford to pay us under union terms, why can't Crunchyroll?" Of course, now that it's publicly known that CR prevented the cast from reprising in this game, there's a good chance many (if not most) won't return anyway.
It's also worth noting that Tower of God was a co-production, so it's possible Crunchyroll is acting out against the property being handled outside of their control. They do publish mobile games themselves, after all. |
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Divineking
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Nothing has been explictly said since I doubt anyone is going to risk breaking an NDA over it, but at least a couple of voice actors implied Crunchyroll did indeed attempt to block the Texas cast from reprising for the Black Clover movie using similar tactics and got called on their bluff before backing down |
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Farhanawesome
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For now, i could say that the relationship between Crunchyroll and L.A talents is getting worse and to me it was so sad seeing CR make more bad blood between then and the fans and the voice actors. Yesterday i saw a deleted tweet from Marin Miller that said would not want to work with Crunchyroll after all the controversy and backlash that was happen in Crunchyroll.
If more LA VA saying the same thing against CR, i'll doubt that they will return in future sequel like Shield Hero S3 and Jujutsu Kaisen S2 and i think this could be another reason that we never get a backlog dubs ( the other anime that didn't get dubbed but get dubbed in later seasons ) in this year, the only way to hear them more in anime if Aniplex start dubbing more of their anime or they will appear as a guest character in MHA or One Piece. I'm not a expert knowing about the industry and how this is happen, but i will blame everything to current CEO Rahul Purini, during the pre-merger and the early time during the merger back in 2022 when Collin decker was a in charge, no one complaints, everything was better, more dubs including dubbing an Aniplex anime, they got freedom, they allowed talent outside tx to reprise their role if they could and they could do a remote recording. Last edited by Farhanawesome on Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Eddy2
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Well, here's the thing about the TOG game. It was dubbed by a small gaming company, so naturally, CR threatening them the way they did scared them. CR can’t possibly argue with a bigger company like Netflix even if they tried. Furthermore, CR are the partial owners of TOG's anime adaptation (it was a CR Original, which means they were a significant member of its production committee) and thus they believed they had authority over what they can do with it. Black Clover, on the other hand, was nothing more than a carryover from Funimation, meaning they only had licensing rights to it. Hope that clears it up a bit. |
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RemGalleuSimp
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I mean I follow a great deal of BC cast on twitter etc, I haven't seen a single one claim CR tried to block them from returning for BC not calling you a lair but quickly checking a bunch of the main cast I see nothing of that sort and if its from other VA's well then its at best secondhand claims and could be utter pigshit and hell BC isnt even the only case I can pull of the top of my head Tokyo Revengers...exact same setup happened. IP went from CR to Disney dub flipped union all the cast still came back no one on the cast claimed anything there either. If CR is behind the scenes trying to block people from coming back when they lose an IP I would think other's would have spoken up similar to what Laura is claiming all I have seen related to this is vague claims from LA based VA's that they have heard CR has tried this in the past (all secondhand or claiming to have heard) no one backing it up with proof. Again not defending CR I just want proof either way.
I knew all this but again what I'm trying to get at here is proof like I said above to someone else, your logic is sound and honestly knowing CR its likely what happened like you said small versus big is likely the key factor. But again all we have is a one side piece with claims from a single person not even the company who claimed to have been threatened confirming its true and with the full contract not being reviewed and the legal expert used stating that 'if there are restrictions regarding role reprisals, it would be in another area of the contract.' it just leaves a lot in the air and if I am being honest I'm getting pretty sick of every other month there being some new drama claim in the dubbing environment with the outrage tweets etc and then a week later everyone's moved on like it never happened, nothings changed and it then repeats. Anyway hopefully the company speaks out and confirms it then yeah that would be proof enough for me at the end of the day. Last edited by RemGalleuSimp on Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:39 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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MFrontier
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Sometimes it feels easier to just watch everything subbed because it feels like you have less issues with vocal consistency or this kind of drama (outside of stuff like with scandals like Tatsuhisa Suzuki or reboots).
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RemGalleuSimp
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Sadly not an option for me due to a reading disability, plus I do truly enjoy dubs. But the drama in the English dub world is honestly taxing as a fan and it seems to only be getting louder if its not like the article claim its a VA being outed as a creep, someone letting there ego get to big for there own head and picking fights, LA vs Texas VA's fighting public & insulting each others works or it turns into drama war over who got cast in a role. I try to avoid it best I can these days but yeah its just taxing for me from a fan point of view |
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Somer-_-
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This is exactly how I've felt for a while. It feels like every time I watch a dub I get burned with a cast change. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Chiyosuke
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Probably because they ARE Funimation. Remember, Funi was the surviving company of the merger, they just ultimately rebranded to the CR name. |
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Ryuji-Dono
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If there's one good thing in regards to Netflix, it's that they learned the debacle from Teasing Master and this time they brought in all the original Texas based VAs for Black Clover while using LA talent for the new characters.
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merr
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Not only that, Netflix’s contract with the dubbing studios actually has a clause requiring that the studios make an effort to hire the original actors whenever possible. |
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