Forum - View topicINTEREST: Dolphin Emulator's Steam Release Indefinitely Postponed After Nintendo's DMCA Notice
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LinkTSwordmaster
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From what I can tell, this isn't the sort of thing that will allow Nintendo to go after every emulator out there, just ones that have that particular key or keys like it included with the app's download. Easiest way around this, if it's at all possible to do, is to pull that key out and have the user provide it manually somehow, not unlike how users are supposed to provide their own console's BIOS for PS1-era game consoles.
This is ultimately Nintendo attempting to puff itself up and look larger than it really is so as to scare Valve off, but the part where this becomes worrying is that other emulator developers may need to go back to decades-old programming and comb through older stuff to see if anything qualifying as a Nintendo-authored encryption key might have been left somewhere in the code. Nintendo is fairly anti-consumer and anti-preservation so I'm hoping this ultimately is a loss for them/ makes them look foolish enough that future attempts at this sort of bullying isn't so quick to happen. |
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Mune
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Let's be clear about this. It runs Wii and GC games, consoles that stopped making and supporting games more than 10 years ago. Nintendo only loses money if people are using it on roms if it is for games available on the Switch or new physical only games from a retailer on another platform, not the secondary market.
With this said, I have used RetroArch on Steam to emulate Nintendo games, but each has been multiplayer in some sense. Games that only have local co-op benefit greatly from this. I played with people hundreds of miles away. I already owned the physical games in which I emulated. Emulation replaced at least 1 player's gas and time to travel to someone else's home. If Nintendo really cared about curbing this use, give players an alternative. Put both old games and multiplayer support in playing an internet-based couch co-op experience at our convenience. Video game preservationists have been touting about bringing games like Super Mario RPG to the SNES app on the Switch. They could even team up with developers of randomizers to give old games a fresh experience. Let's be clear, emulators are tools that do much more than the original hardware could. |
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Dark Mac
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It's a shame we're getting this out of date news days after it was proved false. Nintendo never sent a DMCA. Valve asked Nintendo if it was okay to have Dolphin on Steam, and Nintendo said they didn't want it there. No legal measures were taken.
Summary from a Dolphin dev: https://mastodon.delroth.net/@delroth/110440301402516214 |
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Sheriru
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Protecting them so hard, so nobody will never ever play them, bc who even has those 2 Consoles with the Games at Home or who would ever pay money for that in todays times. But sure, protect it or whatever. I bet everything, if one ask those Developers, they would be ok with People wanting to play their Games, when there is no Hardware to play on but an Emulator. Nintendo is such an annyoing Company, holy hell |
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Chris Handsome
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Just download the stand alone emulator from the official site, why bother running it through Steam? Same with Retroarch.
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enurtsol
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Still working on Xbox Dev Mode
Probably because, according to a recent Dolphin insider, it's not actually "DMCA"-ed: https://mastodon.delroth.net/@delroth/110440301402516214
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alabamabeachmouse
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Agreed. Some people REALLY want everything on Steam, though |
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AsleepBySunset
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My understanding is if you get your software working on steam, users can run that program on linux easily. |
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FeelMyBlade
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I somehow doubt people are using Dolphin, Yuzu, and other emulators to preserve old media and not just emulate modern titles like Tears of the Kingdom or Smash Bros. Melee. I'm all for piracy in general but you act like the Wii wasn't a huge selling console and most people who wanted it don't already have one or it's some huge hurdle to get one. All the video games in danger of being lost to time are the old obscure stuff, not modern games. First party Nintendo titles are not in any danger of being lost to time. It's the third party games from companies that no longer exist and will never pop up on a virtual console service or big company compilation from Namco or Sega. Let's not pretend people are emulating those games 9 times out of 10. |
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BadNewsBlues
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CastleVania & Contra Rebirth are old & obscure and weren’t modern?
Hmmm so we can expect at some point for Nintendo to drop the Windwaker Remaster on the Switch or a future console? Or games that were never rereleased like Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance? |
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ranran-001
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Dolphin already runs natively on linux, and there is a linux build that works with Steam Deck. Having it available as program from the Steam store gives it access to cloud saves. |
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Rosiero
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There is a rather wide gulf between Nintendo's newest release (ToTK) and a game that's over twenty years old and has never been re-released (SSBM). |
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