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NEWS: Square Enix, Atlus, Konami, More Game Companies Tease Announcements in 2023


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Iron Maw



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:38 pm Reply with quote
yuna49 wrote:
Franchise, franchise, franchise. No new ideas. Seems that is what gaming has become.


SE alone release 7-8 new IPs last year. Atlus has couple new IPs in development etc.

So I don't get basis for this statement.

FeelMyBlade wrote:
yuna49 wrote:
Franchise, franchise, franchise. No new ideas. Seems that is what gaming has become.


Don't forget the remakes. Especially the remakes of the biggest and and most iconic games of all times that have zero chance of living up to the hype or legacy that the original games set. FF7 Remake already failed to sell anywhere near as well as the original financially, let alone it's mixed reception story wise. Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 are most assuredly going to be painful and ruin the original games as well. And then you got those remakes of games not even 10 years old shows how creatively bankrupt gaming is these days like the Last of Uses and Call of Duties. Maybe a new Silent Hill by Ryukishi07 could be interesting. Final Fantasy XVI by YoshiP has promise. But at this point you need a notable creative attached to something to get my attention. Someone I can actually trust and know what their style is like. And indie devs are not much better. The amount of retro 8-bit platformers, Metroidvanias, and quirky Earthbound RPGs is in a similar glut and overdone to the point of annoyance.

Shout out to ports of older games that enhance on the original like Tactics Ogre and Romancing SaGa / SaGa Frontier / Minstrel Song. Keeping the great classics alive for a modern generation and not ruining them like actual remakes do.


FFVIIR was a success, what heck are you going about here? Nobody sane was expecting the remake to sell as the (OG which had several releases over the years to pad its numbers) because it is not 1997 anymore. The OG FFVII benefited from coming out at time where 3D gaming was still a novelty and raising into prominence.
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jdnation



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:19 pm Reply with quote
Silver Kirin wrote:
Accoring to some rumors, Atlus may be developing a Persona 3 remake. That's something I really want since they would add all of the content from FES and Portable into one console game, and I suppose stuff from P4 and P5. However, considering they're releasing P3 Portable to consoles this year, it sounds kind of weird


According to the same rumors, that's exactly what they are NOT doing... Sure the QOL stuff will be there from the most modern entry and then some, but stuff people want like the female MC route isn't happening. Maybe a re-release might bother.

I am looking forward to Silent Hill F, and hopefully Re;Fantasy, and something new from Vannilaware, and a Zone of the Enders sequel.
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:35 pm Reply with quote
FeelMyBlade wrote:
Don't forget the remakes. Especially the remakes of the biggest and and most iconic games of all times that have zero chance of living up to the hype or legacy that the original games set. FF7 Remake already failed to sell anywhere near as well as the original financially, let alone its mixed reception story wise. Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 are most assuredly going to be painful and ruin the original games as well.


LOL the Resident Evil 4 remake isn’t going to cause any damage to the original game just like the VR port didn’t cause any damage to the original game the only people who would make absurd statements like this are the hardest of the hardcore of fans whose minds are still stuck in whatever time period these games originally came from.

Like what’s going to happen the remakes are going to pull a Skynet and travel back in time to erase the original games from existence?

FeelMyBlade wrote:

And then you got those remakes of games not even 10 years old shows how creatively bankrupt gaming is these days like the Last of Uses and Call of Duties.


Modern Warfare 1 and 2 were 11 years and 12 years respectively before Activision made full scale reboots of the original games. The Last Of Us remake was unnecessary bullshit though.


FeelMyBlade wrote:
Maybe a new Silent Hill by Ryukishi07 could be interesting. Final Fantasy XVI by YoshiP has promise. But at this point you need a notable creative attached to something to get my attention. Someone I can actually trust and know what their style is like.


And now you see precisely why the major publishers are iffy about backing new major IPs even those helmed by individuals with decades of experience
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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Looper2 wrote:
OrangeVision wrote:

Thankfully for me there are indie games. I much rather spend my time exploring new ideas, (some of which fail, some that don't and some that will stay with me forever) than experience minor improvements over a game I've basically already played countless times.
Indies...

You mean countless Metroidvania copycats, Chrono Trigger wannabes, and misery simulators?

I hear nowadays PS1 demakes are becoming a thing too.

This feels like a ridiculously shallow and narrow minded view of indie games that I would have expected to see 9 years ago. Do you just not go out of your way to actually pay attention to them? What even is a misery simulator, are we still taking about Depression Quest in 2023?
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Spack



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Iron Maw wrote:
FFVIIR was a success, what heck are you going about here? Nobody sane was expecting the remake to sell as the (OG which had several releases over the years to pad its numbers) because it is not 1997 anymore. The OG FFVII benefited from coming out at time where 3D gaming was still a novelty and raising into prominence.


There's been plenty of modern games that sold better than FF7 did back in the day. 6 million by the end of the year it came out is kind of small peanuts compared to something like Call of Duty that can sell over 30 million copies like Modern Warfare 2019 did. Even the modern number of 13 million isn't that hard to beat for the big dogs. The fact the modernized, action oriented remake that was made for the more mainstream audiences didn't even match the old, antiquated, outdated, dumb turn based RPG is kind of a mark of shame if you think about what the intent was and how we were told the original game was a product of it's time and would never work as is today.

Is it a financial bomb? No. But after all the harping from executives and JRPG haters it's a bit of a "lol, lmao" kind of situation that it couldn't beat the original. The Resident Evil 2 remake outsold the original so it's not an impossible feat at all. (original is still better though)
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kaoru99



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:16 pm Reply with quote
MagicPolly wrote:
What even is a misery simulator, are we still taking about Depression Quest in 2023?


Omori? There does seem to be a lot of indie games about depression. Then again you could call AAA games like Last of Us 2 misery porn as well. Misery and depression aren't the same thing though so I guess it depends what we're talking about
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Silver Kirin



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:59 pm Reply with quote
Spack wrote:
There's been plenty of modern games that sold better than FF7 did back in the day. 6 million by the end of the year it came out is kind of small peanuts compared to something like Call of Duty that can sell over 30 million copies like Modern Warfare 2019 did. Even the modern number of 13 million isn't that hard to beat for the big dogs. The fact the modernized, action oriented remake that was made for the more mainstream audiences didn't even match the old, antiquated, outdated, dumb turn based RPG is kind of a mark of shame if you think about what the intent was and how we were told the original game was a product of it's time and would never work as is today.

Is it a financial bomb? No. But after all the harping from executives and JRPG haters it's a bit of a "lol, lmao" kind of situation that it couldn't beat the original. The Resident Evil 2 remake outsold the original so it's not an impossible feat at all. (original is still better though)

I think 6 million is a good number, altough I wonder if the Square's decision of making the Remake a multi-part game affected its performance. I think some people had high expectations for FFVIIR's sales. I remember a forum poll asking people which game will sell better, FFVIIR or Animal Crossing NH (because both games were releasing around the same time), the entire thread was locked due to console warring, but in the end ACNH did manage to sell over 40 million copies so... perhaps so many people were overstimatng FFVII's popularity, at least with the majority of the PS4 userbase, I have plenty of friends who own a PS4 and none of them have played a FF game in their lives
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zero-r



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:33 pm Reply with quote
Gamers love to whine about everything. It is comical at this point.

I will whine if...

1) A studio releases a new IP that isn't creativity groundbreaking.
2) A studio releases a new IP that is an open world (I prefer linear)
3) A studio releases a new IP that is linear, but it is too short with not much repeatability (15-20 hours doesn't do it anymore)
4) A studio releases a live-service game (don't play multiplayer games, only single player games for me)
5) A studio releases a remake and/or remaster of a game don't care or want.
6) A studio releases a remake that it isn't accurate (beat by beat) from the old one.
7) A studio releases a sequel of a popular game, but since I don't like the game, I will whine about it.
8) A so on...
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CelticMutt



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:06 pm Reply with quote
Hopefully the Konami announcements include remasters of Suikoden 3 - 5 plus Tactics to go with the remasters of 1 & 2 that are already coming. Hell, throw in the the two gaidens set between 2 & 3 as well.
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NeoStrayCat



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:36 am Reply with quote
Wake me up when Atlus cares/remembers that Power Instinct/Goketsuji Ichizoku exists, for now, I sleep.
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