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Ditchdigger
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 2:31 pm
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I still can't believe they skipped multiple volumes. It sounds like, going by this review, it went exactly how I thought it would.
The floor-clearing action is supposed to be the backdrop to the real central storyline of Progressive, which centers around some peculiarly human-like NPCs (one of whom joins Kirito and Asuna's party right after the end of the first movie and l stays with them mostly through all the books so far, eaving temporarily exactly at the point this movie skipped to) and the actual storyline of the original SAO game involving a struggle between the Forest Elves, Dark Elves and Fallen Elves over a set of keys that were created when slices of the world were assembled into Aincrad by an ancient wizard.
Take that stuff out and yeah, it's going to feel a little hollow.
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flamemasterelan
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:09 pm
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Yeah, I had similar thoughts. Although, in my case, it's more confusion. Because if anything, people complained about how the first arc skipped around the way it did, and the studio even had Kawahara write up a first floor storyline in order to expand on it, which is what gave him the inspiration to go floor-by-floor, like everyone seemed to expect/want. So, he finally does that and now...the anime decides to adapt it as movies and skip huge sections of the books, resulting in the same haphazard pacing after all. I just don't understand this at all.
It would've made more sense to either adapt this as a series during the gap between arcs, or after the final arc is done to continue milking the franchise. And this is coming from someone who isn't very fond of this series, btw.
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vgiannell5
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:49 pm
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Speaking of Mito, what are the chances she'll end up one the players who die in SAO?
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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:08 pm
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I'm really not sure where this Mito plotline is going since it has nothing to do with the books and is completely anime only.
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Ditchdigger
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:34 pm
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flamemasterelan wrote: | Yeah, I had similar thoughts. Although, in my case, it's more confusion. Because if anything, people complained about how the first arc skipped around the way it did, and the studio even had Kawahara write up a first floor storyline in order to expand on it, which is what gave him the inspiration to go floor-by-floor, like everyone seemed to expect/want. So, he finally does that and now...the anime decides to adapt it as movies and skip huge sections of the books, resulting in the same haphazard pacing after all. I just don't understand this at all.
It would've made more sense to either adapt this as a series during the gap between arcs, or after the final arc is done to continue milking the franchise. And this is coming from someone who isn't very fond of this series, btw. |
Excellent point, yeah! The main selling point of SAO:P was "we won't skip stuff this time." So, for anime-only fans, the reason for Progressive to exist is immediately null and void at just the second installment.
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Xavon
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:51 pm
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vgiannell5 wrote: | Speaking of Mito, what are the chances she'll end up one the players who die in SAO? |
I'm of two opinions about this.
On the one hand, she's the fanfic (and these movies are definitely fanfics of the lowest order) writer's beloved Mary Sue. Of course she will never die.
On the other hand, since 'Asuna's best friend' never showed up in any of the other media, she presumably has to die. I'm thinking they will kill her off as an excuse to push Asuna and Kirito back together after their canon separation.
Either way and as expected, PINO2 doesn't fail to disappoint.
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God of Jurai
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:02 pm
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The reason it skipped floors is because there is a current storyline going on in the novel series that is not completed yet, The Elf War Arc...They Also said they would go back and fill in these floors in a later date.
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everydaygamer
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:43 am
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Xavon wrote: |
vgiannell5 wrote: | Speaking of Mito, what are the chances she'll end up one the players who die in SAO? |
I'm of two opinions about this.
On the one hand, she's the fanfic (and these movies are definitely fanfics of the lowest order) writer's beloved Mary Sue. Of course she will never die.
On the other hand, since 'Asuna's best friend' never showed up in any of the other media, she presumably has to die. I'm thinking they will kill her off as an excuse to push Asuna and Kirito back together after their canon separation.
Either way and as expected, PINO2 doesn't fail to disappoint. |
Option C: She permanently quits VRMMOs after SAO (make her one of the victims of the ALO incident just to be safe). She and Asuna still talk off-screen but she is no longer involved in any VRMMO stuff.
Option D: fully commit to this being some kind of AU that has no effect on the main cannon.
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Xavon
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:20 pm
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everydaygamer wrote: |
Xavon wrote: |
vgiannell5 wrote: | Speaking of Mito, what are the chances she'll end up one the players who die in SAO? |
I'm of two opinions about this.
On the one hand, she's the fanfic (and these movies are definitely fanfics of the lowest order) writer's beloved Mary Sue. Of course she will never die.
On the other hand, since 'Asuna's best friend' never showed up in any of the other media, she presumably has to die. I'm thinking they will kill her off as an excuse to push Asuna and Kirito back together after their canon separation.
Either way and as expected, PINO2 doesn't fail to disappoint. |
Option C: She permanently quits VRMMOs after SAO (make her one of the victims of the ALO incident just to be safe). She and Asuna still talk off-screen but she is no longer involved in any VRMMO stuff.
Option D: fully commit to this being some kind of AU that has no effect on the main cannon. |
I would say D is true either way.
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Nate148
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:47 am
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there is a movie coming out and reki recons alot as for the skip here I think this set of movies is more about expanding ausna then Progressive's story.
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GunplaAddict
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:32 pm
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flamemasterelan wrote: | Yeah, I had similar thoughts. Although, in my case, it's more confusion. Because if anything, people complained about how the first arc skipped around the way it did, and the studio even had Kawahara write up a first floor storyline in order to expand on it, which is what gave him the inspiration to go floor-by-floor, like everyone seemed to expect/want. So, he finally does that and now...the anime decides to adapt it as movies and skip huge sections of the books, resulting in the same haphazard pacing after all. I just don't understand this at all.
It would've made more sense to either adapt this as a series during the gap between arcs, or after the final arc is done to continue milking the franchise. And this is coming from someone who isn't very fond of this series, btw. |
Main reason is ln series structure themselves very very poorly for a movie format. Especially considering SAO progressive lns are continuous so none of them can be made into self contained movies.
The movies are extremely profitable for SAO. The first one made $40 million, second one $14 million. This one still made money. There is a reason why SAO is still considered the king of light novel franchises. Nothing not even Tensura can match SAO's box office totals.
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GunplaAddict
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:34 pm
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God of Jurai wrote: | The reason it skipped floors is because there is a current storyline going on in the novel series that is not completed yet, The Elf War Arc...They Also said they would go back and fill in these floors in a later date. |
Basically this. SAO still makes bank at the box office. Tensura will never beat SAO as a franchise. Tensura released its first movie and it couldn't beat the first progressive movie. Plus Scarlet bonds was rated as rotten.
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