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Greed1914
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 11:55 am
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I read about this yesterday, and it's both sickening and scary. Something as simple as her texting a friend that she was going to record a birthday message when she got home, and then that message not happening, may have been the difference between somebody realizing something happened to her or not. It's impressive that she wants to get back to streaming.
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SciasSlash
Joined: 09 Jun 2015
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:39 pm
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Greed1914 wrote: | It's impressive that she wants to get back to streaming. |
Mentally, a return to normalcy will probably be good for her.
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Hellsoldier
Joined: 21 Jun 2013
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 1:07 pm
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I can only wish the best for her honestly. Despite it all she's one of the lucky ones.
Sickening.
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Albion Hero
Joined: 19 Oct 2019
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:55 pm
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I have my doubts about this story. Theres no way to actually know if this is true due to the lack of names attached to Vtubers, and now suddenly this Vtuber who was pretty much unknown is getting international attention and her viewers are skyrocketing. Its very easy to make up a sensationalist backstory to get attention and then ride that popularity to success.
But then again, I'm someone who believes very little of what Vtubers say about themselves, since it all feels so fabricated to just get attention since they're just playing an anime character anyway.
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harminia
Joined: 24 Aug 2015
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 4:52 pm
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If it's true: holy shit. I hope she gets the help she needs.
If it's a lie: holy shit. I hope she gets the help she needs.
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Catseyetiger
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:03 pm
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This is a tragic tail! Thank the lord she was rescued! That’s the important part! Remain smart protect yourself trust no one you don’t know! Heart felt wishes for a full recovery!
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Hoppy800
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:22 pm
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It doesn't help that human trafficking is insanely common in China and it's hardly being even addressed there (or covered in most media outlets, you have to find a source from south or southeast Asia to get a clue of how bad it is).
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yeehaw
Joined: 09 Sep 2018
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:33 pm
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The woman who was forced to give birth to several children (and was raped I assume? Kind of weird way of ANN to phrase it) that I get since unfortunately rape is normal everywhere in the world, but this seems like she was kept as a servant? Is this common in China?
Albion Hero wrote: | I have my doubts about this story. Theres no way to actually know if this is true due to the lack of names attached to Vtubers, and now suddenly this Vtuber who was pretty much unknown is getting international attention and her viewers are skyrocketing. Its very easy to make up a sensationalist backstory to get attention and then ride that popularity to success.
But then again, I'm someone who believes very little of what Vtubers say about themselves, since it all feels so fabricated to just get attention since they're just playing an anime character anyway. |
Since the police is involved in the story I doubt it's made up
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SciasSlash
Joined: 09 Jun 2015
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:47 pm
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Albion Hero wrote: | I have my doubts about this story. Theres no way to actually know if this is true due to the lack of names attached to Vtubers, and now suddenly this Vtuber who was pretty much unknown is getting international attention and her viewers are skyrocketing. Its very easy to make up a sensationalist backstory to get attention and then ride that popularity to success.
But then again, I'm someone who believes very little of what Vtubers say about themselves, since it all feels so fabricated to just get attention since they're just playing an anime character anyway. |
If she was going to make up a sensationalized story, she could have easily made up a more sensational story. 'I was mildly physically abused for a few months' is hardly a dimestore paperback, even if it was obviously a traumautic experience for her.
And it's not like vtubers are any different from other streamers. Very few of them are really hardcore playing an anime character with an elaborate fiction and a personality and identity distinct from their own, they're just a streamer with a gimmick. There's no real reason to doubt her story.
And also, how would she possibly get international attention and popularity off this? She streams exclusively in Chinese, on BiliBili, a platform that is only really popular in China.
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NezumiVA
Joined: 20 May 2018
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:25 am
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Albion Hero wrote: | I have my doubts about this story. Theres no way to actually know if this is true due to the lack of names attached to Vtubers, and now suddenly this Vtuber who was pretty much unknown is getting international attention and her viewers are skyrocketing. Its very easy to make up a sensationalist backstory to get attention and then ride that popularity to success.
But then again, I'm someone who believes very little of what Vtubers say about themselves, since it all feels so fabricated to just get attention since they're just playing an anime character anyway. |
Extremely strange for your first reaction to someone saying they were human-trafficked to be "Bet it's for clout". Even if you find it suspicious, at least consider how you would feel if something like that happened to you and someone accused you of seeking fame for coming forward about something that traumatizing.
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Albion Hero
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:33 am
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NezumiVA wrote: |
Albion Hero wrote: | I have my doubts about this story. Theres no way to actually know if this is true due to the lack of names attached to Vtubers, and now suddenly this Vtuber who was pretty much unknown is getting international attention and her viewers are skyrocketing. Its very easy to make up a sensationalist backstory to get attention and then ride that popularity to success.
But then again, I'm someone who believes very little of what Vtubers say about themselves, since it all feels so fabricated to just get attention since they're just playing an anime character anyway. |
Extremely strange for your first reaction to someone saying they were human-trafficked to be "Bet it's for clout". Even if you find it suspicious, at least consider how you would feel if something like that happened to you and someone accused you of seeking fame for coming forward about something that traumatizing. |
If its true, then that sucks and I really hope the best for her. But I see zero reason to believe an "anime character" telling me about their tragic backstories to try to get internet fame. And I'm much less likely to believe that a real person who just went through all of this would run onto the internet and play an anime character telling random people this story. A real person would be going through PTSD and therapy and not trying to earn internet fame by telling thousands of randoms about it. Plus, there is no risk due to the fact nobody knows who they actually are, so they can easily just make up a sob story to go viral.
I'm sorry if it seems I'm being insensitive, but I'm hardly the only one who doesn't believe this little tale. Check the comments on the Bilibili video linked in the article, like half of them don't believe her story either.
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SciasSlash
Joined: 09 Jun 2015
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:38 am
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She's not 'an anime character,' she's just a streamer who uses an anime live2d avatar instead of her real face.
And also, very cool of you to say only some coping mechanisms are valid. For some people, a return to their normal after an experience like that would be good for them. If streaming was a daily ritual for her, wouldn't it be pretty reasonable to return to that daily ritual?
I'd also like to point out that her last video was uploaded in october, it is now may, and she says she was held captive for six months. Basic math would tell there's a 1-2 month gap between when she got back and when she started streaming again.
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Sekaro
Joined: 12 Nov 2018
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:21 am
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Well... Hmmm... Its not that I don't believe her but some crucial details are clearly missing here. Like how did the actual police even found her? She was locked up in the middle of nowhere with no way to even call for help. What leads did the police have to go on from there?...
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:26 am
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I dunno how it is in other countries, but even with the scarcity of some details, her story sounds weirdly plausible to me.
Yeah. Scary indeed.
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Hellsoldier
Joined: 21 Jun 2013
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:56 am
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Hoppy800 wrote: | It doesn't help that human trafficking is insanely common in China and it's hardly being even addressed there (or covered in most media outlets, you have to find a source from south or southeast Asia to get a clue of how bad it is). |
I read on BBC News about the problem of Human Trafficking in China, around the time of the woman with 8 kids thing. That's more or less when I learned how insanely common Human Trafficking is in China, primarily of girls, if I'm not mistaken.
It doesn't help that that China is the size of a continent and has the population of such. Though I will say that they are pretty effective at controlling population movements for Health or Authoritarian purposes. So, I wonder how much of this isn't allowed by some corrupt local authorities. Or maybe trafficking groups are that cunning, even against the Chinese Police State. Yeah, probably the latter one.
Regardless, Human Trafficking is a real problem in China, and as such we should all assume that she is telling the truth. Good job from the Chinese Authorities this time around.
Also, congrats on your 3.000 th comment.
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