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FireballDragon
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The graphics and the plot do kind of suck, I admit, but no one really plays Pokémon for those elements. I really do want to see more of the different styles of attacks in future titles, along with usage of trade-evolution items being upgraded to applied use. It made it a lot easier to get my favorite Pokémon, Scizor.
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Florete
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This may be true, but there's an acceptable bar and this game is below it (for graphics; I'm not far enough to judge the plot yet). In my decades of gaming, this is literally the only game I can think of where the graphical quality has had a negative impact on my experience, as I've never been one to care much about graphics. It's unacceptable for a AAA game from the largest media franchise in the world in 2022. No Pokemon game has ever looked as bad as the Switch titles. |
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FireballDragon
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I'd argue the Gen V games looked worse, due to the unsubtle puppet-like animations and downright ugly designs for some of those new Pokémon (The Timburr line is hideous). Maybe it's just that I don't have high standards for graphics, since my standards are more oriented towards the actual gameplay proper, but I'm okay with how Legends: Arceus looks. |
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Yune Amagiri
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~120h played, Dex 100% completed - all mission and secondary done, extra bag space is fully unlocked, 45 Shiny catched among them all the Hisuian Pokemon but the legendary and the 3 starters which only appear in Distortions, i probably won't bother focus on farming all the remaining non-hisuian shiny as i have them in my Pokemon Home, so, at this point there isn't much to do beside the very time consumming Alpha shiny farming ( i have 3 of them currently which seems to be a lot considering that most players i know don't even have one).
My only real complaints would be the current lack of online content and how boring Space-time Distortions are ( especially because you can't control them so you have to wait forever ). I just hope they intended for the Distortions to be used for future event, i'd love for them to have a high level legendary appear alongside some Alpha Pokemon as guard, it would make for an epic fight. |
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FunkyDude88
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Legends is the first Pokemon game I genuinely enjoyed in a long, long time. I've gotten really jaded over the years after XY and felt the series got really stale and seemed to be evolving backwards in terms of innovation. Yeah, the graphics are butt, but the game actually feels like it has soul. Easily the best Pokemon game in over a decade. It'll be a shame when the next generation comes out and we go back to the old formula. If all the Pokemon games played like this from now on I'd be very happy.
If a sequel could add things like held items/equipment for your Pokemon, abilities, and other stuff that got pruned, this could be amazing. Oh, and some form of online play. Being able to battle against other people would be great. Hopefully there's DLC for the game. |
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Thatguy3331
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Legends arceus is a total blast. I've played the game nearly nonstop for two weeks straight and the contrast to my enjoyment between this and brilliant diamond couldn't possibly be more different. Yeah the game can remind me of sonic adventure alot of the times but it's hard to care too much when the mechanics and stuff you're actually doing is as fun as it is. I paid very little attention to the story for the most part but I'm not sure if I agree that it's the worst pokemon game plot when sword and shield exists, which is a game that had alot of concepts and characters that could potentially be interesting but rarely ever get used in compelling ways with some really bad beats near the end of the game (granted in LA I only spoiler[fought and captured Dialga and haven't done much else yet]) If we are to utilize the concepts in the future I do hope both the graphics and story telling improve obviously, but neither really negatively impacted my experience with the game much, sans the occasional close up shots on certain pokemon.
Fun as the game is, I do wonder how exactly they can transplant this into the multiplayer experience Pokemon is known for. The usual mechanics pokemon are known for have been extremely simplified that make for a fun single player experience but could also lead to some game breaking issues on their own, which is probably why online options may be so limited. Anything's possible but it is hard for me to not get cynical at the prospect that this too is just a slight gasp of air before this turns into another slump the game series will fall into, and I certianly can't imagine them melding the mechanics here with some of the more complex mechanics from the main games to make them more overall interesting in title that may be forced to come out in a year or so. Who knows, but I'm happy what we have for right now is a fun pokemon game. |
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crazieanimefan1
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I will say there's still glitches. Nighttime on the game gives me the chills as the light flickers a bit and I almost thought it was my Switch system. Also, certain glitches had some of the Pokemon running in circles (or flying as I last saw a Crobat making itself dizzy).
My biggest complaint is the camera. I've had times trying to line up a throw and the camera says, "Nope, we're gonna look at the sky!" and makes it hard to clock one with the ball before you're noticed. I would've liked it better if the camera was following the direction your character's in instead of twirling around and trying to get it under control. Game wise, I'm enjoying it. I read some tweets that many want them to do an entire Legends spin off series of games, and I agree if they can fix the glitches a bit better. And never seen so many darn Paras and Carnivine that wish to kill you during the day, and at night Drifloon and the bats. I got slammed from behind by I think it was either Parasect or Ursaring...either way, they had kill on the mind. I also like how almost all the Pokemon now have their own signature moves. It's not just the simple Thundershock or Water Gun. It's their own move, one that only others in their species could use. It also took me a moment to catch on how to do the Agile and Strong Style stuff. And the alphas with red eyes...you think you see your faves so cute and cuddly, then here comes a jumbo size version looking possessed...that's one you didn't think could happen. |
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Juno016
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*sigh* I'm not one to complain, but Pokemon is my favorite game franchise and I feel like the only person in the world who actively hates the game. Not a simply dislike, and not a disregard for what it's done to improve on the series, nor disrespect to anyone who made or who likes the game. I just find myself painfully bored with it. I hate completing the missions, there's too much to keep track of, the world feels so superficial, I've never cared for catching a ton of Pokemon (I always prioritize making a team of mons I like and ignoring the pokedex), and more than once I've actually cried at how awful of an experience I'm having and just shut the game off. It's one of my favorite regions with some of my favorite pokemon and even my favorite protagonist to play as. I just can't figure out why the game bothers me so much. I don't feel immersed at all. A part of me knows not every game is for everyone, but I don't think I've ever felt this awful just trying to play a video game in my life and it's led me into very depressing thoughts when I see how much fun everyone else is having with it.
To me, it just feels like a grindfest doing the very thing I try to do the least of in the mainline games. Everything is about catching pokemon. Trying to coax out moves from stubborn pokemon that just run away every single time. Realizing I forgot to stock up and running out of balls or supplies. I'm always pressing the wrong menu buttons. I even had to pull out a notebook just to keep track of what I was trying to accomplish. Ican't seem to remember what shops are where and I get lost on the field a lot. My brain is overloaded and I'm not having any fun. It feels like a chore to the point I get too tired to pay attention to the story and I just want the slow cutscenes and dialog to end. And the world looks awful. I don't care to explore. The people just kinda... stand around awkwardly. It's so painful just to feel like I'm doing nothing but checking boxes on a checklist to progress to another checklist. I don't know. At this point, I've elected to just put it down. Maybe someday I'll return to it and appreciate it more, but I can't do it now. |
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Rogural
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Although I can acknowledge the massive flaws in both of the games, I think I had more fun with BDSP, while Arceus was just... not it for me. Catching Pokemon is fun and all but... there wasn't anything else. Boss fights were poor, plot was bad, the structure was almost non-existent so my Pokemon were wildly over leveled, much more so than they've ever been before. I know Pokemon isn't a hard game by any means but... there was no difficulty here at all.
And what frustrates me the most is that they've given the player a degree of freedom and yet the way I chose to play it was apparently the wrong way which completely busted it and made it into pure tedium. Not to mention I'm absolutely disappointed with the choice to once more, cut the dex and limit Pokemon. Even more so than BDSP, even more so than Sword/Shield. |
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Oggers
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I've been having a lot of fun with this game. Yeah, the plot isn't the most engaging and it took me some time to get used to an entirely different set of controls than most Pokemon games have (I still instinctively press B to run sometimes....), but those are really my only nitpicks. I'm hoping we can get more games similar to it going forward, especially since it improves on some ideas introduced through the Wild Areas in Sword and Shield. One particular thing I love is seeing all those Spheals roll around on the beach, it's the cutest thing.
I'm honestly not bothered by the graphics, and frankly saying things like they're "awful" seems pretty overblown to me. Attempts to make hyper-realistic graphics in video games almost never age well, anyway. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Oh? Then why did people piss all over Sw&Sh for it’s graphical limitations (along with Arceus’s).? As for no one playing for the narrative that’s debatable. Not all of us Pokémon players love and hate the games for the same reasons.
I’ll see your Gen 5 slight and raise you a Gen 6 with a bit of Gen 7 thrown in. With Gen 3 thrown in for meh Pokémon designs. |
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Electric Wooloo
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I don't really mind how Arceus looks either, granted I'm playing it fully handheld on a Switch Lite. But it's a little disingenuous to say gen 5 looked bad. You can very well not like designs/animations used, but that generation was squeezing every last ounce out of the end of a system's lifespan and did a pretty darn good job imo. Meanwhile gens 6 and 8 used brand new hardware and still looked pretty dated at the time imo. As for plot... it was pretty darn bad. I don't play pokemon for plot, but there needs to be something there. And I agree with the reviewer of this being the 1st time I don't dislike the "Always on EXP share". In fact, there are a lot of changes that have been made the past few gens that I never liked much or felt didn't fit, but in an action RPG they work much MUCH better. |
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kotomikun
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Somehow, this game feels more Pokemon than any "normal" Pokemon game ever did. "Catch 'em all" is, for once, actually the point, and not a sidequest. "Pocket monsters" act like monsters, rather than non-human RPG heroes inexplicably obsessed with beating up their own kind--we've always been told wandering the wilds without poke-protection is dangerous, but for the first time we're actually shown this through firsthand experience. It's what people imagined Pokemon Go would be like, though it never came close to how its own ads portrayed it (as usual for mobile games).
I can't wrap my head around complaints about the graphics and plot. Maybe those things are just a meme at this point? The worst I could say about the visuals is that they're minimalistic, and they almost have to be to make the gameplay work (more detailed rendering would make small pokemon harder to spot, for one thing). The plot is mostly an excuse to wander around catching a billion mons, but this is no different from previous games, where the plot is an excuse to battle a million trainers and grind levels until you beat the champion. It has some problems with the interface; the weird toggle-switch between throwable items and mons makes it far too easy to accidentally throw pokeballs at a tree or rock when you meant to throw out a mon to harvest it, and weird collision boxes for the wing-type balls often make them inexplicably bounce off the ground or random objects. But those things are only noticeable because the gameplay is otherwise so consistent and engaging. It's not for everyone; there's barely any trainer battles, so you have to really like catchathoning or shiny-hunting, and some of the dark-souls bossfights are pretty obnoxious. But, for some portion of the fans, it's almost too good for its own good, being "just" a spinoff game. Hopefully this won't be a dead-end experiment like Let's Go apparently was. |
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yurigasaki
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This is considered part of the mainline series, not the spinoffs, fwiw. |
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ICO44
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Its less about hyper realistic graphics and more about Switch can do much better visuals than Pokemon. 
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