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cchigu
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 9:10 am
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Overtake Eva please!
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xxmsxx
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:06 am
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cchigu wrote: | Overtake Eva please! |
I don't think it will be that hard. Heck, I think Detective Conan 24 could have done it this year if it wasn't for the theatre shut-downs. In fact, 25 is likely going to pass Eva if theatres are fully open.
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earl.m
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:38 am
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I am wondering about the future of the anime film industry. If you look at the to 50 grossing anime of all time list it is dominated by entities/franchises that are dead, in decline and/or are approaching their last arcs: Ghibli, Evangelion, Pokemon, Detective Conan, One Piece. Even if Dragon Ball and Doraemon are perpetual motion machines, their continually being responsible for new items on this list arguably isn't a good thing. Beyond that you have auteur-driven stuff from Makoto Shinkai and Mamoru Hosada. The former has only produced 2 hits and while the latter has a longer track record he hasn't had any big hits (Belle is going to be his first to surpass $60 million USD and unless it catches fire internationally - which sadly is unlikely - it won't reach $100 million or even $80 million).
It seems that there is no "formula" for making a hit anime movie, especially ones that:
A. aren't Ghibli
B. aren't movie installments for long-running shonen TV shows (and even there some of the bigger ones like Bleach, Naruto and now MHA don't produce hit films)
C. can make more than $100 million without being phenoms like Mugen Train and the biggest Ghibli and Shinkai hits
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MFrontier
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:51 pm
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Congratulations!
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tintor2
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:31 pm
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xxmsxx wrote: |
cchigu wrote: | Overtake Eva please! |
I don't think it will be that hard. Heck, I think Detective Conan 24 could have done it this year if it wasn't for the theatre shut-downs. In fact, 25 is likely going to pass Eva if theatres are fully open. |
Could the current social distancing issue the reason why this movie has not been licensed yet?
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xxmsxx
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:22 pm
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tintor2 wrote: |
xxmsxx wrote: |
cchigu wrote: | Overtake Eva please! |
I don't think it will be that hard. Heck, I think Detective Conan 24 could have done it this year if it wasn't for the theatre shut-downs. In fact, 25 is likely going to pass Eva if theatres are fully open. |
Could the current social distancing issue the reason why this movie has not been licensed yet? |
You mean Detective Conan for North America?
But Conan films have never been licensed for major theatrical debuts in NA, or even limited theatres runs. Thus it is unlikely it will have one anytime soon. Like at least for another 2-3 years.
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Honeyman
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:31 am
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earl.m wrote: | I am wondering about the future of the anime film industry. If you look at the to 50 grossing anime of all time list it is dominated by entities/franchises that are dead, in decline and/or are approaching their last arcs: Ghibli, Evangelion, Pokemon, Detective Conan, One Piece. Even if Dragon Ball and Doraemon are perpetual motion machines, their continually being responsible for new items on this list arguably isn't a good thing. Beyond that you have auteur-driven stuff from Makoto Shinkai and Mamoru Hosada. The former has only produced 2 hits and while the latter has a longer track record he hasn't had any big hits (Belle is going to be his first to surpass $60 million USD and unless it catches fire internationally - which sadly is unlikely - it won't reach $100 million or even $80 million).
It seems that there is no "formula" for making a hit anime movie, especially ones that:
A. aren't Ghibli
B. aren't movie installments for long-running shonen TV shows (and even there some of the bigger ones like Bleach, Naruto and now MHA don't produce hit films)
C. can make more than $100 million without being phenoms like Mugen Train and the biggest Ghibli and Shinkai hits |
An animated film doesn't need to make the box office that Mugen Train did nor will they in a large number of cases. That series managed to gain significant popularity and is still riding that wave currently which will die down over time. We do thankfully still get films that aren't new installments in long-running series as well as the original works from the likes of Hosoda and Shinkai. The distributors want them to make money for sure but there is enough variety and choice in the animated film market to not worry about all films being major financial hits (if the film's budget is between £5-£10m maybe its seen as a success if it at least doubles the original production and marketing budget).
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