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Gem-Bug
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Getting sniped by someone like 100 yards away in the midst of delivering the final strike is not what I would call humiliating, honestly. More a humiliating win for Mai.
You could have just said this much instead of the accompanying long-winded diatribe on why 'progressive' and 'the patriarchy'(your air-quotes) are just a failing niche thing that only the West is dealing with. |
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yeehaw
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I really hoped James would talk about this in the review but if I'm not misremembering this is Nobaras third fight scene.
It's the second one that ended with her unconcious, the remaing one had her being hauled off to a hospital in the middle of it. It's cool that the show said something about how society treats women, but I don't see how this is different from any other shounen show like Naruto or HeroAca in how it actually treats it's female cast. They might get a cool fight but they don't get to be as important to the plot as say, Megumi, who fought Sukuna once and now Sukuna wants to fight him again, setting up some juicy future plot and is probably going to affect his and Yuujis friendship in some way or another. Nobara just gets to show that's she's cool but that's it. |
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ThatMoonGuy
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Yeeah. I really don't think so. Jujutsu Kaisen has a pretty consistent track of being quite anticonservative. Satoru Gojo, who's arguably the core presenter of the series' thesis, straight out says that he wants to destroy the current system which is governed by old men disconnected from the current world. The manga has an habit of quoting from important cultural hallmarks in subversive ways and the characters it tends to treat with most respect tend to be subversive and considered outliers by the larger Jujutsu Society. Later on we even learn spoiler[ that director Gakukanji literally consumes the lives of young people (we explicitly see a young woman) to maintain himself and the whole Jujutsu system standing and the main villain of the series wants to return the world to a mythical golden age]. Taking away from Jujutsu Kaisen's countercultural spirit is doing the series a disservice when it so insistently tries to argue for a world where the new generations can live without being held back by social rules they never agreed to. |
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ATastySub
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You've got some names mixed up there, and spoilers because this is not anywhere near anime territory spoiler[Tengen is the one who goes through vessels and is the pillar of Japan's jujutsu. Gakukanji is a bastard in his own conservative way but he's not consuming young women]. Either way that is probably better saved for the discussion section of the forum and not the talkback for the anime. But yeah, saying that JJK isn't making political statements is a very deliberate misreading, especially since that's a large part of it's appeal. |
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Agent355
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This. I liked this episode, I liked the ideas it presents, and I like the female characters and their fighting styles. But...all the female characters are fighting other female characters, and they’re all side characters. It’s a lot better than “Sakura and Ino fight each other in the Chunen Exams while flashing back to their falling out over crushing on the same boy (who couldn’t care less about either of them)” A lot better, don’t get me wrong. But I’d love to see JJK use their female characters better than Naruto did. As for, why does Shonen Jump rarely center female characters or have plot points about feminism? Maybe it’s because the magazine has never had a female editor? animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-11-08/controverse-chez-shueisha-pour-etre-redactrice-en-chef-les-femmes-doivent-comprendre-le-c-ur-des-garcons/.152995 |
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ThatMoonGuy
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I really did! Thanks for the correction. And, yeah, this more, dare I say, progressive edge to JJK is one of the things that I really want to see in the series. It has the potential to be something quite unique in WSJ and maybe even in shounen manga in general. |
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Gasero
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I don't think a female editor is needed in order for Shonen Jump to feature more stories involving female leads or issues related to living as a female. What is needed is an editor that wants to feature those stories! Male, female, or whatever else that editor may identify as. However, I agree that it would be helpful if a female editor was selected at some point On the other side, the Shonen Jump staff are wrong for thinking that a female writer would not be able to write something that appeals to their current demographic of young males. Many women have written stories and created worlds that appeal to the shonen jump demographic. The issue might be that the shonen jump staff don't want to consider those people. The irony is that one of the most popular and well received manga in my lifetime is Full Metal Alchemist, a story and world created by a female, and that is loved by many males (and females). Sadly, this female writer had to (or just felt more comfortable with) disguise her name as a male name so that it would be more likely for her series to be selected for publication. At least that's the narrative I've interpreted. |
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LastPage 3
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This is the exact kind of argument that is often used to erase LGBTQ and other marginalized people in many countries. They're derided as "Western" stuff that has nothing to do with their culture and so people who don't fit into those traditional cultures don't even have a leg to stand on when they are striving to improve their lot. I agree with you that people shouldn't simply swallow Western ideas whole, but many times the same people you mention who pick and choose what parts of Western culture to adopt , the ones who are already on the top of the heap socially, are the same people who are using said Western culture as an argument against the very same people that progressivism is there to help. |
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Dicku-kun
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Am I the only one who thinks the 3D environment thing is jank? It's nauseating and looks terrible when 2D characters are moving in it. It's like someone slapped an MS Paint drawing instead of Photoshopping it. Hot Take I guess.
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bleachj0j
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Even more so in the recent chapter, where Gege makes an even more blatant commentary on how women are expected to behave. Or even in the anime, Nanami critiquing that value of his office job vs that of a bread maker. |
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Mami-kouga
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I actually didn't really enjoy this episode that much. It wasn't bad but I felt like the direction was mediocre in some spots and I ended up not feeling as if I gained anything more than what I would reading the manga unlike most of the other episodes.
I'm happy the exam has finally been properly interrupted though, because now we can move on to my favourite scenes in the arc next week. |
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7777ale7777
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One thing that seemed strange to me was that when Toge said "Stop" to stop Hanami, Megumi and Noritoshi were not affected. I know that it's been stablished that the Kyoto team is protecting their ears but it was never stated that the Tokyo team (or at least Megumi) was doing the same. It's not that big of a deal, it's just that I would have liked them to have addressed it.
Also, the conversation over the phone between Toge and Miwa lasted only about 10 seconds but when we cut to Toge and see the phone it said that it lasted over 1 minute and 30 seconds?! I guess Toge just like to listen to people sleeping... Also, the Jujutsu Stroll kinda spoiled that Hanami has an arm under that piece of cloth. I was expecting something more striking or gruesome. |
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ThatMoonGuy
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Toge can target his Cursed Speech. We see that during the initial fight against Todo and again here. The mechanics is not that of a curse that affects all that hear it but one that affects all that Toge talks to.
He wanted to make sure that Miwa was affected by the cursed speech. Since there was a chance that she was protecting herself, she could've pretended to pass out and then come back with a surprise attack. I concur that this episode feels weaker than the others. In the larger context of the series, it's easy to see why it's here but it breaks the flow of the events before. I also don't exactly like how all the fights are pretty much mirror matches. It does make sense thematically, sure, but it's a bit on the nose. Fortunately, soon we'll arrive at the end of this arc which is really, really good. |
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ab2143
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Not only can Megumi understand Toge but he can also decipher Gojo’s hilarious drawings of the special-grade cursed spirits.
I couldn’t stop laughing at Gojo’s drawing of Hanami and Jogo. He even used crayons!! I can imagine him lying on the floor and humming whilst colouring them in I’m glad we got to see more of Inumaki in this episode. His cursed ability is pretty cool. It’s a shame about the drawbacks |
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yeehaw
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I don't think Jujutsu Kaisen is super great about explaining the powers, I also thought his speak affected everyone who heard him and that that's the reason he only speaks in onigiri fillings. |
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