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IceLeaf
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:10 am
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There are so many issues with this already starting with the skateleading... like I get they made up a fictional sport but that's... not how ice skating works at all???!!!!
Also a rival tells the main character to give up so they just do??? Not even accounting for the lack of a backbone, considering that they are high school aged for the series, they would have started skating as a kid which is generally only done when their parents want them to be a skater, and most parents like that aren't just like "you want to quit, sure"
And does anyone else think these are rather lazy character designs from Yana Toboso?
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Agent355
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:55 am
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I don’t know how to feel about this. Love figure skating in general, love Yuri!! on Ice, but they made up a new figure skating competition?! They could’ve done an anime about ice skating performers (icecapades type shows) or pairs figure skating or ice dancing (but that would require *gasp!* including female characters!) but they decided to make up something entirely out of thin air. And those character designs look like idol show leftovers...not promising at all. Such wasted potential for another good figure skating anime (I was hoping YoI would start a trend, but it didn’t happen )
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nightjuan
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:44 am
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IceLeaf wrote: | There are so many issues with this already starting with the skateleading... like I get they made up a fictional sport but that's... not how ice skating works at all???!!!!
Also a rival tells the main character to give up so they just do??? Not even accounting for the lack of a backbone, considering that they are high school aged for the series, they would have started skating as a kid which is generally only done when their parents want them to be a skater, and most parents like that aren't just like "you want to quit, sure"
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Honestly, I guess it's because the anime staff want to introduce something different into the mix and thus establish their own project identity, rather than exclusively aiming for hardcore ice skating enthusiasts, or blindly riding the wave without any effort. In other words, it's taking a risk but also one that allows them a little more creative freedom than simply making something called, say, Arnold on Ice or whatever.
After all, the world of anime is surely large enough to contain more than one type of skating show as well as both realistic and fictional representations of sports, so why shouldn't they give it a try?
As for opinions on the plot, for me it seems a bit silly to dissect a short summary at this point.
They seem alright to me. Not sure about what type of character designs you're expecting though.
Agent355 wrote: | I don’t know how to feel about this. Love figure skating in general, love Yuri!! on Ice, but they made up a new figure skating competition?! They could’ve done an anime about ice skating performers (icecapades type shows) or pairs figure skating or ice dancing (but that would require *gasp!* including female characters!) but they decided to make up something entirely out of thin air. And those character designs look like idol show leftovers...not promising at all. Such wasted potential for another good figure skating anime (I was hoping YoI would start a trend, but it didn’t happen )
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Not everything has to literally follow in the steps of Yuri on Ice. I know some people are already going to complain no matter what they do, period, simply because they've dared to make a skating show yet not catered to their very specific whims about what is allowed or not...but in my opinion it's actually nice that they're coming up with their own rules in the process.
There's already plenty of fictional or unrealistic sports anime (say, I grew up with Captain Tsubasa and that's not a grounded depiction of soccer), so I don't see why it's automatically a bad thing.
Note that I have no opinion about the quality of the show, because I haven't seen any of it. If I were making a random bet, this series won't be nearly as impactful as Yuri on Ice, but that doesn't mean the audience can't or won't have any fun watching it.
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Agent355
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:35 am
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^ The really cynical part of me thinks they invented a new skating group sport because they didn’t want to include female characters in a meaningful way (because most ice performance/sports with artistic elements have mixed male/female couples), and that really, really bothers me. But you’re right that it’s premature to judge this before the first episode airs.
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Puniyo
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:27 am
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Agent355 wrote: | ^ The really cynical part of me thinks they invented a new skating group sport because they didn’t want to include female characters in a meaningful way (because most ice performance/sports with artistic elements have mixed male/female couples), and that really, really bothers me. But you’re right that it’s premature to judge this before the first episode airs. |
It's probably got nothing to do with "not wanting to include meaningful female characters" and more to do with since they're taking a risk on the subject/concept of the show, they're trying to level that out by using the sports anime formula that effectively attracts female viewers.
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FiendHunter
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:03 am
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There hasn't even been a teaser yet, and people are already dropping this because it's not Yuri on Ice
Prince of Stride also had a fictional sport, and it was good nonetheless. Sure it wasn't a masterpiece, but it was fun and entertaining. So yeah, don't take the "sport" too seriously and just enjoy the pretty guys dancing around on ice.
As for me, I actually expected a different seiyuu cast, but you can't have everything Gonna give this a shot, might be fun to watch~
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Oggers
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:05 pm
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Since this series hasn't come out yet, I don't want to be too hard on it, and I don't want to be too quick to compare it to Yuri on Ice, either. The character designs are nice, and that's already to be expected from Yana Toboso.
Still, I can't say I'm excited for it since it seems like some weird hybrid of male idols and figure skating. This at least seems to have more emphasis on the figure skating than King of Prism, which has figure skating elements but they barely matter since there's way more focus on the idol aspect. If they really wanted to do a figure skating anime while still keeping the sports team dynamic, they could have focused on synchronized skating...but oh, well.
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