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VORTIA
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 Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:23 pm
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Not surprising, considering the botched issue with Ai-chan's voice. I rarely visit her channel anymore, sadly. The quality went straight downhill.
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Yuvelir
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:59 pm
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How do you even lose that much money with something that is pretty much a cheap to produce advertising machine?
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harminia
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:00 pm
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is the era of virtual youtubers slowly ending?
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:54 pm
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| harminia wrote: | | is the era of virtual youtubers slowly ending? |
Hopefully
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:29 pm
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| Yuvelir wrote: | | How do you even lose that much money with something that is pretty much a cheap to produce advertising machine? |
If I were to guess, by moving profits to a shell company to avoid a higher tax rate.
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rx32555
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:39 pm
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No surprise here. The multiple voice thing was a mistake. Kizuna AI lost her identity.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:20 pm
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| harminia wrote: | | is the era of virtual youtubers slowly ending? |
Nope it's growing, it's a thing in China as well. People are still throwing money at them and they are adapting when demonetization occurs.
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Yuvelir
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:03 am
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| Yuvelir wrote: | | How do you even lose that much money with something that is pretty much a cheap to produce advertising machine? |
If I were to guess, by moving profits to a shell company to avoid a higher tax rate. |
That does sound pretty plausible...
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Uokel
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:39 am
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HoloLive and Nijisanji are dominating the Vtuber space right now and based off the last few live shows those two did (like the recent Hololive 1st fest) they are not going anywhere.
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FukuchiChiisaia
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:35 am
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| Uokel wrote: | | HoloLive and Nijisanji are dominating the Vtuber space right now and based off the last few live shows those two did (like the recent Hololive 1st fest) they are not going anywhere. |
Yeah. Especially with Nijisanji opening branch in South Korea, Indonesia, and India. While Hololive with their China and Indonesia branch as well.
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pwnagemaster
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:17 am
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| harminia wrote: | | is the era of virtual youtubers slowly ending? |
Nah, Hololive just debuted 5 new girls at the very end of last year, and one is already up over 150k subs, and the other 4, who debuted a bit later, all have between 50k and 85k.
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:32 am
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The solution is simple. they should lower Kizuna Ai's wages.
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Yuvelir
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:09 am
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KabaKabaFruit
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:44 pm
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The news doesn't surprise me one bit with all the controversy that had surrounded the Kizuna Ai character and Upd8's handling of the situation from the past year. When the Kizuna clones showed up and began passing themselves off as being good as the original Kizuna Ai, it was at that point that everyone began asking questions over what direction the channel was legitimately heading to...and with good reason.
The Kizuna clones were just...confusing. They severely retconned the environment that Ai-chan was accustomed to to the point of being glaringly inconsistent considering Ai-chan's past complaints about being "all alone" in the white space. Then, the clones began having more and more stream time to the point where even the nastiest YouTube commentators were starting to make legitimate sense when they started getting on board with everyone else and asking where the original Ai-chan was.
Then, we had that ridiculous update on Ai-Chan's 3rd birthday bash showing the Chinese Ai that was meant to give linguistic ease to the Chinese Kizuna Ai fans only to have the Chinese fans go "WTF?" and questioning the actual need for the character when all THEY wanted was to enjoy JAPANESE Ai-Chan in all her original glory!
Then the original Kizuna Ai voice actress stopped appearing altogether and we ended up getting clone banter from the replacement actors which REALLY pissed off the fanbase as evidenced in the YouTube commentary and the first livestream post original Ai-chan.
Even if Ai-chan's original actress had returned by now (which I can't confirm as I hadn't been on A.I. Channel in months), the damage was done and upd8 has a glaring scar to bear for it. Fingers are being pointed at Yuichi Soejima, executive producer of Activ8 over the whole kerfuffle.
If Kizuna Ai isn't being considered relevant anymore, it's not surprising and I find that to be a terrible shame as I enjoyed Ai-chan's antics throughout the years only to have backroom corporate interests contaminate the character and insult the fanbase for it.
| harminia wrote: | | is the era of virtual youtubers slowly ending? |
Nope. Aside from Kizuna's voice swap controversy and Kaguya Luna's once-a-month updates, all other VTubers are still going strong. Siro chan is still providing new videos every day or two and the Omega Sisters are now considered official YouTube product helpers thanks to their product promotions. 
...why? What do you have against Virtual YouTubers?
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