Forum - View topicNEWS: Fire Force's 3rd Episode Modified After Kyoto Animation Fire
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Bioshocker
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So the changes ended up being minor. So all the whining was for nothing, man, some of you are embarassing. Talk about jumping to conclusions.
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sol20
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Yea, other than some characters that should have been introduced in the episode being replaced with a long discussion at the end.
Not too much was changed.[/quote] |
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Meongantuk
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I don't think they intended to introduce those characters yet. The discussion looks too elaborate (from the direction) for something that was done in a week. As for the censor itself, the biggest one was the ED after all.. spoiler[Which originally shows people burned to death (well, turned into infernal). They covered that particular scene on the ED with a black bar.] Not sure what the staff will do when that particular scene appear in the actual show later. |
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Brent Allison
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This is just a CYA move to convey the appearance of responsiveness. I won't be playing along with such a ham-fisted committee decision, and therefore will be dropping the show until original artistic intent is readmitted into the visual portions of the narrative. In the meantime, I will continue to express genuine empathy by donating to all relevant charitable funds.
If I died in this fire, my ghost would be disgusted by this move. |
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Really? You don't see how it's more than a bit insensitive to the victims and the friends and family that survive them to just carry on with imagery of people burning to death like nothing happened? You actually think that only money means anything? |
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Brent Allison
Posts: 2445 Location: Athens-Clarke County, GA, USA |
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No, I happen to think that forcing ham-fisted choices over art is the opposite of compassion because someone's artistic expression is being squelched for less-than-compassionate purposes (PR) in the name of those artists who may well have not wanted this kind of decision. Otherwise, I have a long-standing policy of refusing to debate with strangers on the internet. My town is in my profile. If you or anyone else wishes to discuss this matter with me, feel free to look me up for a face-to-face appointment during my office hours. |
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Lord Vaultman
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Most of those people probably wouldnt be watching the show anyways edited or unedited. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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The problem with the argument that the show should have been delayed instead is that networks and studios already have shows scheduled for upcoming seasons that have timeslots already filled and it would be hard to squeeze Fire Force in, especially given how crowded the fall season usually is. The show likely would have had to been delayed till next year in that case. Which I would be fine with but the studio already has license contracts with networks and companies, both domestic and foreign, that they probably have to honor. In any case, having actually watched the episode, I'm not aware of anything significantly changed. In regards to the censorship issue, anime shows are already regularly censored on network TV in Japan in regards to gore and sexual content. The changes to Fire Force don't seem all that worse than what happens to anime on a normal basis every season and if anything the changes in Fire Force are less noticeable than the more obvious censorship in the Mom Isekai show.
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Xiximaro
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You sir, seem to be one of the only few who gets it |
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louis6578
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I don't like that people are resorting to insults (implicit or explicit) regarding a differing opinion. "You want the fires to remain the same, thus you're insensitive to the plight of those affected by the KyoAni fire." Come on. You guys know that isn't true. Some people just think that keeping the fires realistic-looking adds to the immersion, some people think it's awkward to suddenly change the fires a few episodes in, and some people just plain dislike the multicolored flames as a form of preference for the more natural color.
People on the "the change is okay" side, you're welcome to your opinion, but the reason people disagree with you isn't because they callously disdain those who are sensitive or easily triggered. You don't care about the color of the fire. Others do. That's where this argument ends. |
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#905022
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Condolences that such a terrible incident happened.
I understand being tactful to the victims, but they are other ways to approach this, like not assigning this project. So imo it's another reason. Did they say what documents or files were lost in the fire? I read that all of the computers and data were destroyed except for a few key frames uploaded to servers for exhibition. Maybe they no longer have the narration lines or color palette data, and can't recover it? Maybe the previous animators are either on break to recover or deceased, or transferred the project to other animators who has nothing to reference except for the previous episodes and thus have improvise. Though I don't know what exactly goes down in the animation process. If Fire Force wasn't getting animated in this studio but in the other one they have, then never mind. |
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