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Rhys2753
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 Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:00 pm
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Experiments*
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:04 pm
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Being Japan only, I have high hopes that people remain respectful and adult and don't spoil things for everyone else. If were the US... 
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Mr. sickVisionz
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:37 pm
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They're giving away any claim on derivative works... which means they're allowing fan art and stuff. That's very kind of them but allowing fan art is not "open sourcing".
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Zeino
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:30 pm
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| Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | Being Japan only, I have high hopes that people remain respectful and adult and don't spoil things for everyone else. If were the US... |
Of course, knowing Japan, it's going to mean doujins of Lain getting... well, I don't think I need to spell it out. Maybe being niche and being an old series that the otaku are not super into will protect it.
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ChestPains
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:00 pm
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| Mr. sickVisionz wrote: | | They're giving away any claim on derivative works... which means they're allowing fan art and stuff. That's very kind of them but allowing fan art is not "open sourcing". |
It's a joke on the series' themes.
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meruru
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:11 pm
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Upon reading the title, I thought maybe they were allowing for repurposing footage for derivative works, but then the article says it has to be originally produced works. I'm kinda failing to see how this is different than the current state, which is they'll look the other way for doujin, as long as you only sell a very limited run.
As far as I know, Lain may even be more known in anime circles outside Japan than inside Japan, as it was one of the ones that got an early license, and had the right kind of appeal. I've never seen official Japanese merch of it anyways.
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Dr.N0
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:09 pm
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This has sadly nothing to do with open source, whether in form or spirit.
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Uraraka
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:39 pm
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Yasuyuki Ueda, who is responsible for the Lain's open source project, said the following regarding the usage outside Japan on Twitter:
"This time, I consulted with legal to deal with unforeseen problems, and I made it domestic only. Overseas, there is also a problem with rights and it is not impossible, but it seems that it takes time to make adjustments."(Google translated)
https://twitter.com/uedayasuyuki/status/1148643735216898048
He said "it is not impossible, but it seems that it takes time," so, there is still a chance that the open source may be applied to the overseas.
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Asaaaasd
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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:10 pm
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| Zeino wrote: |
| Hiroki not Takuya wrote: | Being Japan only, I have high hopes that people remain respectful and adult and don't spoil things for everyone else. If were the US... |
Of course, knowing Japan, it's going to mean doujins of Lain getting... well, I don't think I need to spell it out. Maybe being niche and being an old series that the otaku are not super into will protect it. |
I mean, you could've made doujinshi of Lain before, it's not like Fate is open source yet it has plenty of doujinshi.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:27 am
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| Uraraka wrote: | Yasuyuki Ueda, who is responsible for the Lain's open source project, said the following regarding the usage outside Japan on Twitter:
"This time, I consulted with legal to deal with unforeseen problems, and I made it domestic only. Overseas, there is also a problem with rights and it is not impossible, but it seems that it takes time to make adjustments."(Google translated)
https://twitter.com/uedayasuyuki/status/1148643735216898048
He said "it is not impossible, but it seems that it takes time," so, there is still a chance that the open source may be applied to the overseas. |
At least he is trying to help get overseas rights! Good for him taking that initiative!
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gridsleep
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:46 am
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Wait a minute. Serial Experiments:Lain is owned by NBC? I mean, it's better than Disney, but what the hell? It's not as if it is popular or Dragonball/One Punch/One Piece/Pokemon/Sailor Moon marketable. It's a cult following show like The Prisoner (in the same league, even) that requires a hefty dose of cerebral mechanics just to scope out properly. Why would NBC be owning the right to it? That's like Microsoft suddenly showing great interest in the works of Ralph Bakshi. WTF? My brain spins.
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gridsleep
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:50 am
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| Mr. sickVisionz wrote: | | They're giving away any claim on derivative works... which means they're allowing fan art and stuff. That's very kind of them but allowing fan art is not "open sourcing". |
Yes, it is, in a sense (probably a legal one, where it counts) creating an open source doctrine around the copyright of the prior art. New works in any way related to SE:L will not face prosecution. From a corporate standpoint, this is almost revolutionary behavior. Almost as if the students had descended from the barracades and entered the board room for tea and scones.
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gridsleep
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:57 am
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How about throwing in Haibane Renmei and Texhnolyze? No? Maybe later? A very nice trend could be starting here. Ergo Proxy would be good, also. And Wolf's Rain.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:00 am
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As far as what Japan can do with material, here is 1 idea: putting the SEL characters on a movie poster for a public domain film.
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Schaef Dogg
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:30 am
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| gridsleep wrote: | | Wait a minute. Serial Experiments:Lain is owned by NBC? |
NBC Japan, yes. Geneon (previously Pioneer) merged with Universal Japan in 2009 to become Geneon Universal Entertainment Japan, and renamed to NBCUniversal Entertainment Japan in 2013. Any time NBC Universal is mentioned in ANN articles it is usually referring to the Japanese unit. Article probably should have linked to this encyclopedia entry instead of the American NBC.
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