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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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 Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:57 pm
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This guy seems to get it more than the Wachowski Bros.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:09 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | I'm watching anime, because they get realism better than Hollywood.
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Uh, you realize this is the Speed Racer thread, right? 
Some anime "get" realism. Some anime don't bother. Speed Racer doesn't, and proudly doesn't.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:28 pm
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I'm guessing, for its time, Speed Racer was more realistic than most shows.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:43 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | I'm guessing, for its time, Speed Racer was more realistic than most shows. |
Auto Jacks for jumping over other cars. Belt Tires for scaling vertical cliffs. Cutter saws for, uh, cutting. Defenser for deploying a bullet-proof shield. Evening Eye for seeing night vision. Frogger mode for diving underwater. Gizmo button for launching a flying recon robot. Homing button for retrieving said flying recon robot. Another button for gliding in the air.
Uh, no.
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luisedgarf
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:55 pm
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I wonder if they're gonna keep the US name for the Latin American versions since in Mexico and many Spanish-speaking countries "Speed Racer" is better known as "Meteoro".
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:30 pm
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testor: So the car basically has many of the gimmicks of the early Bond films; and those were considered realistic for their time, too.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:40 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | testor: So the car basically has many of the gimmicks of the early Bond films; and those were considered realistic for their time, too. |
You'll say anything absurd to deny you were wrong, won't you?
Show us an "early Bond film" with a car that can scale a vertical cliff or glide in the air, and we'll talk. James Bond films didn't have a submarine car until a full decade later.
Remember, you were claiming that it "gets" realism better than Hollywood. Now you're claiming that it's only as "realistic" as a Bond film with a submarine car? Talk about moving your goalposts.
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Berserkfury819
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Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P.
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:46 pm
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Who cares!?! Its a live action anime adaption that looks well done. I'm seeing this opening day. Hopefully if it does well, we can get other projects (like EVA) off of the ground. As Gatsu pointed out a few months ago, Transformers seems to have helped with the live action anime movement.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:50 pm
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| Berserkfury819 wrote: | | Who cares!?! Its a live action anime adaption that looks well done. I'm seeing this opening day. Hopefully if it does well, we can get other projects (like EVA) off of the ground. As Gatsu pointed out a few months ago, Transformers seems to have helped with the live action anime movement. |
I agree with you, really.  If it's good, it'll help anime, definitely. It's people like Gatsu who have absurd, preconceived expectations of what anime-based films must be, before those even open, and then don't bother watching the stuff anyways to avoid shattering their self-(un)fulfilling prophecies.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:00 pm
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testor:
| Quote: | | Show us an "early Bond film" with a car that can scale a vertical cliff or glide in the air, and we'll talk. James Bond films didn't have a submarine car until a full decade later. |
I said many, not all.
| Quote: | | Remember, you were claiming that it "gets" realism better than Hollywood. Now you're claiming that it's only as "realistic" as a Bond film with a submarine car? Talk about moving your goalposts. |
Before Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix, that was realistic.
| Quote: | | It's people like Gatsu who have absurd, preconceived expectations of what anime-based films must be, before they even open, and then doesn't bother watching them anyways to avoid shattering his self-(un)fulfilling prophecies. |
Um, I saw Transformers, and it was dumber than all of Bay's films combined.
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Berserkfury819
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Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P.
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:09 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | testor:
| Quote: | | Show us an "early Bond film" with a car that can scale a vertical cliff or glide in the air, and we'll talk. James Bond films didn't have a submarine car until a full decade later. |
I said many, not all.
| Quote: | | Remember, you were claiming that it "gets" realism better than Hollywood. Now you're claiming that it's only as "realistic" as a Bond film with a submarine car? Talk about moving your goalposts. |
Before Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix, that was realistic.
| Quote: | | It's people like Gatsu who have absurd, preconceived expectations of what anime-based films must be, before they even open, and then doesn't bother watching them anyways to avoid shattering his self-(un)fulfilling prophecies. |
Um, I saw Transformers, and it was dumber than all of Bay's films combined. |
Come on, Transformers was nowhere near as bad as Pearl Harbor. The whole film was giant slap in the face to WWII vets.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:12 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | testor:
| Quote: | | Show us an "early Bond film" with a car that can scale a vertical cliff or glide in the air, and we'll talk. James Bond films didn't have a submarine car until a full decade later. |
I said many, not all. |
I didn't say all either. I don't think 3 out of 9 counts as "many."
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| Quote: | | Remember, you were claiming that it "gets" realism better than Hollywood. Now you're claiming that it's only as "realistic" as a Bond film with a submarine car? Talk about moving your goalposts. |
Before Star Wars, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix, that was realistic. |
Again, you're backpedalling. First you claimed it was more realistic than Hollywood. Now, you're just claiming it's as realistic as Bond films...with submarine cars. Never mind the gliding and vertical-climbing part.
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| Quote: | | It's people like Gatsu who have absurd, preconceived expectations of what anime-based films must be, before they even open, and then doesn't bother watching them anyways to avoid shattering his self-(un)fulfilling prophecies. |
Um, I saw Transformers, and it was dumber than all of Bay's films combined. |
You finally saw it, after months of ranting before even seeing it. Now will you please be patient until you see this new film before ranting?
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:15 pm
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| Quote: | | Again, you're backpedalling. First you claimed it was more realistic than Hollywood. Now, you're just claiming it's as realistic as Bond films...with submarine cars. |
Actually, I'm not since your comment about the car having more features than the ones in the Bond films supports my argument.
| Quote: | | You finally saw it, after months of ranting before even seeing it. Wink |
Yeah, I knew it would suck, but people occasionally stare at car-wrecks, right?
| Quote: | | Now will you please be patient until you see this new film before ranting? |
Nope, cus I'm not interested in it. My only concern is Akira-if that ever happens. [/quote]
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:19 pm
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| GATSU wrote: |
| Quote: | | Again, you're backpedalling. First you claimed it was more realistic than Hollywood. Now, you're just claiming it's as realistic as Bond films...with submarine cars. |
Actually, I'm not since your comment about the car having more features than the ones in the Bond films supports my argument. |
It having more features than Bond cars means it "gets realism better than Hollywood"? Okay...
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| Quote: | | Now will you please be patient until you see this new film before ranting? |
Nope, cus I'm not interested in it. My only concern is Akira-if that ever happens. |
You're not interested in this film? Cool. Then please go to some other thread.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:59 pm
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testor:
| Quote: | | It having more features than Bond cars means it "gets realism better than Hollywood"? Okay... |
The actual effort put into optimizing and rigging the thing shows a sense of believability, especially given that the real thing only came out about 40 years later.
| Quote: | | You're not interested in this film? Cool. Then please go to some other thread. |
Oh, I'm sorry? Are you the Opinion Police? Did I break the law?
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