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Chrono1000
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harminia
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I guess so... It just seems kind of mixed to me. I don't know. I feel like it's inconsistent and confusing to me, but maybe that's only me? Maybe everyone else Gets It and I'm just struggling. But hey, Zac, you were one of the judges. Are you able to tell us what you personally were judging the titles by? How successful/popular a title is, or how, like, well created/written/etc it is? |
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Blatch
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Because it was made by just three people? Personally, I wouldn't lump it in with the other, more well-produced shows, but I think it deserves its own "special achievement" award-ish thing. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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The problem I see with the nominees, as with other awards, is that the majority of them are only five shows. Check how many times LL, MHA, LWA, AMB and March appear regardless of category compared to the others. While it is understandable that the best shows will be among the top 6 in many categories, each of these occupy half of all entries in any category except "film", "manga" and "CGI", (which they aren't).
Also pay attention to list order. It is a subtle trick to list the shows first that the judges want to win in each category as they know most people will tend to vote that way. This is especially problematic when the browser only shows the first two nominees of any category, you have to scroll to see the rest. Many won't scroll unless they know beforehand that each category has 6 entries, which isn't disclosed anywhere I can find. Why not list all on the visible page? I don't have a problem with the nominees per se as they are all top shows, but I find non-alphabetic listing and page setup suspicious. |
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zrnzle500
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@Chrono1000 Again with going on about political correctness. What are you basing that on? The shows that have been chosen by anime critics, for these awards and on this site, largely line up with user opinion, both on this site an others, and all the choices for best are well rated and well regarded by fans. They aren’t necessarily the most viewed shows of the year, but like with the examples I provided in Black Clover and Boruto, most watched doesn’t necessarily equal the best, even among those who have watched it. Both fans and viewers seem to think the shows that were picked for the best category are quality shows, so I don’t see how you can accuse them of just picking shows for being politically correct and totally ignoring any other factor.
I would like you to consider the possibility that perhaps the critics (and other viewers!) have a different opinion than you on various shows, not because they are being “politically correct”, but because you and them just have different tastes and rate those shows accordingly. I honestly don’t think continuing this argument will be very productive, so I’ll leave it at that. |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Just who are these people who, rather than thinking "maybe I have to scroll down", think "oh, I guess there are just two options for everything", and are they the reason that microwaves now come with warning labels that tell you not to use them to dry your pets? |
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SWAnimefan
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I disagree of their category of "Favorite Villain". Here's why:
Stain might've fought and killed heroes, but his conviction was that of the purity of heroes, not one of destruction and greed. Therefore he was an Anti-Villain, not a Villain. Tanya, is pure evil and wanting to destroy everything in her path, even god. But she displays the qualities of an Anti-Hero. She fights for her country, even if it's personally motivated, and manages to care for her subordinates (as long as they are loyal to her). And her opponents are just as evil and not good, so therefore she can't be a villain. If anyone disagrees with me, I'm just voicing an opinion. |
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relyat08
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They aren't using popularity as a quality measure. They are picking what they think is most deserving based on perceived critical value. That is the entire point of the nominations aspect of this Award. Then it enters the public voting period, where popularity plays the most important role. The "experts" job was to pick the most deserving shows/characters/etc for each category to help guide the popular vote to the reasonable choices. |
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Random Name
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Hmm I've only seen two of the shows in the best anime list and was not a fan of either. Plus the fact that KADO - The Right Answer is a nominee for any category... clearly this is not an award show for me.
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relyat08
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Looking through all of the nominations again, I guess my biggest problem would be the number of spots that MHA has. 10 spots across 7 categories is not quite as bad as YOI had last year, but that's still a few too many as far as I'm concerned(I think there should be a 5 nomination cap for each series given this number of categories). I think we'll see MHA win all 7 of those spots given the nature of these awards.
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killjoy_the
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The only award I thought it was weird to see it popup was the Best Opening one. I feel like every other it's running for is well earned. |
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donhumberto
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Booo ...still no nomination for Genocidal Organ as best film... jeez is baffling/frustating/depressing how underrated (and underwatched) that masterpiece of a film is
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Yuvelir
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MHA will be this year's YOI but at least this time there won't be 4 series monopolizing most spots right off the bat. A few are more almost up there but they get diluted more since there are more categories and 6 spots per category rather than 4.
(anyway, how did Maidragon make it for best ED but not best OP?)
Simple: judges don't have to come to a resolution based on a single strict criteria. Many factors may be considered and candidates may be weighed around all them. It's obvious that popularity matters because otherwise My Hero Academia wouldn't be getting into almost every category (even double-dipping!), but that quality matters is obvious in many of the nominees. It would be drab and pointless if only popularity mattered, but it would also be a wasted effort if most voters didn't know most of the nominees.
Some people are easily triggered by anything that might be slightly progressive, so the manga category having "lesbian" in one title and "brother's husband" in another probably set a few red flags. And the "hero" category, term than in the past was almost male-exclusive, being dominated by females just set some more. That's my best theory.
Oh no... 
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GoldCrusader
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I mean all those nominations are well earned so i don't see any problems. |
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Angel M Cazares
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While I agree that MHA has too many nominations, most of them are well earned. I will have not many problems if it wins anime of the year, best action show and best animation. My problem will be with the best boy and girl categories. MHA has good character writing, but if these awards are supposed to be serious, the characters from Showa Genroku and Scum's Wish should have been included in the best boy and girl nominations. Like I already said, the nominations are appropriate across the board, but in some of the nominations the judges were seduced by the (still of good quality but) more popular stuff. |
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