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EP. REVIEW: Blood Blockade Battlefront & Beyond

Nyron wrote:

if you're not sure, I will inform you. Last season, every episode from 2 onward started with Black and White's subplot, and ended with Black and White's sublot. This stupid plotline was always 100% detached from the rest of the episode. Episode 4 introduced the Blood Breed, the most fearsome enemies in the story, and it was almost a whole volume in the manga. The anime truncated it to not just one episode, but about 16 minutes total. The actual Blood Breeds had about 2 minutes of screen time. Just to make room for Black and White. Episode 5 introduced Brody and Hammer, who are main characters. This episode's main story (Aligula and her car-eating car) was also truncated down to almost nothing, just so there could be a 5 minute long worthless scene about White. Near the end, there was a two-parter where Zapp's master and Zed show up. This was huge. Major backstory for main characters, and another full-time cast member. And there was the second major fight with a Blood Breed. The entire fight with the Blood Breed was crammed down to about 10 minutes and ***half of the entire conclusion episode to this arc*** was instead made about Black walking around some ****ing carnival talking about NOTHING. The first 10 episodes also completely skipped over entire plotlines about the actual main characters: Klaus, Leo, Zapp, Stephen, Chain, KK, Brody, and Mummybutler, instead relegating everyone but Zapp and Leo to background characters. Chain is a main character who had maybe 10 lines all of last season to Black and White's entire episodes' worth. And finally, the last three or so episodes of the season were 100% about Black and White with no actual manga characters to be seen, except for Leo. The setting changed from the central city to B&W's stupid farm. The mysterious, unsolvable nature of the atmosphere was brushed aside and the story was now about wizards or something. It was all drama and no action or comedy. The narrative at this point had made BBB into a completely different series. And Black and White's story didn't even make sense, it was a convoluted mess. It's like if you took Cowboy Bebop and inserted clips of Space Battleship Yamato at the start and end of every episode, and then swapped out the final block of episodes with Yamato, featuring Spike cameos. It was really bad dude Also, the manga is mostly episodic but it does have progression. The progression is finding out more regarding the cast's characterization and pasts. BBB is cool because the characters and setting are so incredibly endearing, and it's understandable that anime viewers wouldn't get that due to so many of those main characters being butchered last season. There are also tons of plot threads that get touched upon over time, like the Blood Breeds, the 13 Kings, the nature of the city, etc. It's all really interesting. "Why is Klaus a 7ft tall human with fangs and incredible stamina?" "wtf are Leo's eyes" "why are KK and Stephen so tense around each other?" "who are the 13 Kings?" these are the mysterious the series presents without comment, and touches upon slowly over time If I were to take a guess, this season will probably touch on the origin of Leo's eyes and the backstories for most of the cast. It's pretty much the same kind of progression that Bebop had.

Even if the manga has progression. There won't be enough time of all those extra manga plot points in a 12 episode season. And the anime might feel a bit too episodic for people who don't read the manga.

Black and white parents were castors were they not? In episode 2 of the new season they were probably one of the castors that helped held up the city in placed so the story was not "butchered" for something that was pretty episodic anyways.

The relationship with white and her brother was a great parallell contrast to Leo's relationship with his sister.

I'm glad someone else is mad about this too

in the interest of Good Cop Bad Cop, I encurage everyone to buy the manga because it is really great and has tons of reread value. it feels like Nightow's been wanting to make this manga his entire life and his ideas burst off the page like nothing I've ever read before

Also yeah, Black and White were in part awful because they're so far away from Nightow's writing style. In a world where everything is a reference to Tarantino or Spawn, you have these two milquetoast shounen characters with nothing unique about them at all. It felt pervasive.

Nyron wrote:

I'm glad someone else is mad about this too in the interest of Good Cop Bad Cop, I encurage everyone to buy the manga because it is really great and has tons of reread value. it feels like Nightow's been wanting to make this manga his entire life and his ideas burst off the page like nothing I've ever read before Also yeah, Black and White were in part awful because they're so far away from Nightow's writing style. In a world where everything is a reference to Tarantino or Spawn, you have these two milquetoast shounen characters with nothing unique about them at all. It felt pervasive.

Meh. I'm not mad. I mean if the black and white stuff was anime original that means the pointless chess game in episode 3 was manga content right? And the episode with a the mushroom alien nej? And the underground fight with Klaus that kind of went nowhere?
I am sure there is probably more development with Libra in the the manga. But The manga content seems pretty flawed too. Do they ever try to figure out a way out of the bubble covering New York? Feels too much like a slice of life.

Even episodes of Trigun Vash just kept traveling around in the 1st half with a lot of one off characters we don't see for more than one episode except for the final bad guy near the end.

Niello wrote:

SkerllyFC07 wrote: There´s an actual balance of moments, and given that so far there´s no overarching storyline to disrupt the episodic narratives, it´s all good. I'm not sure how an overarching storyline could even "disrupt the episodic narratives", considering that all of that only really happened at the beginning or the end of each episodes. Sometimes, it even gives meaning to the episodic feature that happened, such as the episode where Leo took White out to see a movie together. If anything, it ties the show together, give it some progression and a sense of coherence.

if you're not sure, I will inform you.

Last season, every episode from 2 onward started with Black and White's subplot, and ended with Black and White's sublot. This stupid plotline was always 100% detached from the rest of the episode.

Episode 4 introduced the Blood Breed, the most fearsome enemies in the story, and it was almost a whole volume in the manga. The anime truncated it to not just one episode, but about 16 minutes total. The actual Blood Breeds had about 2 minutes of screen time. Just to make room for Black and White.

Episode 5 introduced Brody and Hammer, who are main characters. This episode's main story (Aligula and her car-eating car) was also truncated down to almost nothing, just so there could be a 5 minute long worthless scene about White.

Near the end, there was a two-parter where Zapp's master and Zed show up. This was huge. Major backstory for main characters, and another full-time cast member. And there was the second major fight with a Blood Breed. The entire fight with the Blood Breed was crammed down to about 10 minutes and ***half of the entire conclusion episode to this arc*** was instead made about Black walking around some ****ing carnival talking about NOTHING.

The first 10 episodes also completely skipped over entire plotlines about the actual main characters: Klaus, Leo, Zapp, Stephen, Chain, KK, Brody, and Mummybutler, instead relegating everyone but Zapp and Leo to background characters. Chain is a main character who had maybe 10 lines all of last season to Black and White's entire episodes' worth.

And finally, the last three or so episodes of the season were 100% about Black and White with no actual manga characters to be seen, except for Leo. The setting changed from the central city to B&W's stupid farm. The mysterious, unsolvable nature of the atmosphere was brushed aside and the story was now about wizards or something. It was all drama and no action or comedy. The narrative at this point had made BBB into a completely different series. And Black and White's story didn't even make sense, it was a convoluted mess.

It's like if you took Cowboy Bebop and inserted clips of Space Battleship Yamato at the start and end of every episode, and then swapped out the final block of episodes with Yamato, featuring Spike cameos.

It was really bad dude

Also, the manga is mostly episodic but it does have progression. The progression is finding out more regarding the cast's characterization and pasts. BBB is cool because the characters and setting are so incredibly endearing, and it's understandable that anime viewers wouldn't get that due to so many of those main characters being butchered last season. There are also tons of plot threads that get touched upon over time, like the Blood Breeds, the 13 Kings, the nature of the city, etc. It's all really interesting.

"Why is Klaus a 7ft tall human with fangs and incredible stamina?"
"wtf are Leo's eyes"
"why are KK and Stephen so tense around each other?"
"who are the 13 Kings?"

these are the mysterious the series presents without comment, and touches upon slowly over time

If I were to take a guess, this season will probably touch on the origin of Leo's eyes and the backstories for most of the cast. It's pretty much the same kind of progression that Bebop had.

AnimeFan1994 wrote:

Nyron wrote: I'm glad someone else is mad about this too in the interest of Good Cop Bad Cop, I encurage everyone to buy the manga because it is really great and has tons of reread value. it feels like Nightow's been wanting to make this manga his entire life and his ideas burst off the page like nothing I've ever read before Also yeah, Black and White were in part awful because they're so far away from Nightow's writing style. In a world where everything is a reference to Tarantino or Spawn, you have these two milquetoast shounen characters with nothing unique about them at all. It felt pervasive. Meh. I'm not mad. I mean if the black and white stuff was anime original that means the pointless chess game in episode 3 was manga content right? And the episode with a the mushroom alien nej? And the underground fight with Klaus that kind of went nowhere? I am sure there is probably more development with Libra in the the manga. But The manga content seems pretty flawed too. Do they ever try to figure out a way out of the bubble covering New York? Feels too much like a slice of life. Even episodes of Trigun Vash just kept traveling around in the 1st half with a lot of one off characters we don't see for more than one episode except for the final bad guy near the end.

the chess game was Klaus' introductory episode. rather than have him appear and do some big leader-y fight thing, it showed that he has infinite endurance and holds himself to incredibly high standards. those are the core aspects of his character.

Nej and the cage fighting episodes were based off of short chapters in the manga. they did show important things like how Leo actually has friends, and how Klaus has animalistic urges that probably foreshadow something about him.

and the series is literally a slice of life
that's the point
that is, in fact, the show
it's seinfeld with vampire punching

no they don't go outside the ****ing city because the city is a central character of the show and is at the core of its entire premise

not going to bother replying to axbox because I think they may actually be like 15 or something

Nyron wrote:

Niello wrote: SkerllyFC07 wrote: There´s an actual balance of moments, and given that so far there´s no overarching storyline to disrupt the episodic narratives, it´s all good. I'm not sure how an overarching storyline could even "disrupt the episodic narratives", considering that all of that only really happened at the beginning or the end of each episodes. Sometimes, it even gives meaning to the episodic feature that happened, such as the episode where Leo took White out to see a movie together. If anything, it ties the show together, give it some progression and a sense of coherence. if you're not sure, I will inform you. Last season, every episode from 2 onward started with Black and White's subplot, and ended with Black and White's sublot. This stupid plotline was always 100% detached from the rest of the episode. Episode 4 introduced the Blood Breed, the most fearsome enemies in the story, and it was almost a whole volume in the manga. The anime truncated it to not just one episode, but about 16 minutes total. The actual Blood Breeds had about 2 minutes of screen time. Just to make room for Black and White. Episode 5 introduced Brody and Hammer, who are main characters. This episode's main story (Aligula and her car-eating car) was also truncated down to almost nothing, just so there could be a 5 minute long worthless scene about White. Near the end, there was a two-parter where Zapp's master and Zed show up. This was huge. Major backstory for main characters, and another full-time cast member. And there was the second major fight with a Blood Breed. The entire fight with the Blood Breed was crammed down to about 10 minutes and ***half of the entire conclusion episode to this arc*** was instead made about Black walking around some ****ing carnival talking about NOTHING. The first 10 episodes also completely skipped over entire plotlines about the actual main characters: Klaus, Leo, Zapp, Stephen, Chain, KK, Brody, and Mummybutler, instead relegating everyone but Zapp and Leo to background characters. Chain is a main character who had maybe 10 lines all of last season to Black and White's entire episodes' worth. And finally, the last three or so episodes of the season were 100% about Black and White with no actual manga characters to be seen, except for Leo. The setting changed from the central city to B&W's stupid farm. The mysterious, unsolvable nature of the atmosphere was brushed aside and the story was now about wizards or something. It was all drama and no action or comedy. The narrative at this point had made BBB into a completely different series. And Black and White's story didn't even make sense, it was a convoluted mess. It's like if you took Cowboy Bebop and inserted clips of Space Battleship Yamato at the start and end of every episode, and then swapped out the final block of episodes with Yamato, featuring Spike cameos. It was really bad dude Also, the manga is mostly episodic but it does have progression. The progression is finding out more regarding the cast's characterization and pasts. BBB is cool because the characters and setting are so incredibly endearing, and it's understandable that anime viewers wouldn't get that due to so many of those main characters being butchered last season. There are also tons of plot threads that get touched upon over time, like the Blood Breeds, the 13 Kings, the nature of the city, etc. It's all really interesting. "Why is Klaus a 7ft tall human with fangs and incredible stamina?" "wtf are Leo's eyes" "why are KK and Stephen so tense around each other?" "who are the 13 Kings?" these are the mysterious the series presents without comment, and touches upon slowly over time If I were to take a guess, this season will probably touch on the origin of Leo's eyes and the backstories for most of the cast. It's pretty much the same kind of progression that Bebop had.

Even if the manga has progression. There won't be enough time of all those extra manga plot points in a 12 episode season. And the anime might feel a bit too episodic for people who don't read the manga.

Black and white parents were castors were they not? In episode 2 of the new season they were probably one of the castors that helped held up the city in placed so the story was not "butchered" for something that was pretty episodic anyways.

The relationship with white and her brother was a great parallell contrast to Leo's relationship with his sister.

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^Not to mention Nightow did this illustration of black and white for on of the DVD covers for the anime so he probably approved Matsumoto's idea[/url]

For anime only viewer that were attracted by the Matsumoto name, she delivered what was expected of her, a poignant story about family and belonging that made her fame in Kyousougiga, while staying true to the world and ambiance of Nightow throughout.

enriching the world for manga readers (via the magicians role that became canon)

If it was only a series of 1-episode stories, I would surely have dropped it,

It feels like the author thought of a cool concept, delivers on it on a single chapter, and then forget about it as he goes to another concept.

And for the fan of Nightow, even if she cuts the corners on the story, the action is hectic and dynamic, with a true Sakuga Feast at it's core.