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The Best and Worst of the Summer 2017 Season

And community score never reflects the rankings? These rankings are BASED on the ANN community scores. Can I ask what YOU are talking about?

Mad_Scientist wrote:

And community score never reflects the rankings? These rankings are BASED on the ANN community scores. Can I ask what YOU are talking about?

>Last episode of Re Creators scores a 4.2
>average is higher than Tsuredure Children, MHA and PriPri despite the fact that they all scored considerable higher

May want to stop pretending this system is flawless.

Crunky wrote:

Mad_Scientist wrote: And community score never reflects the rankings? These rankings are BASED on the ANN community scores. Can I ask what YOU are talking about? >Last episode of Re Creators scores a 4.2 >average is higher than Tsuredure Children, MHA and PriPri despite the fact that they all scored considerable higher May want to stop pretending this system is flawless.

As stated in every weekly rating article, the ratings reflect the comparative score for the show based on how users ranked it compared to other shows. So it has nothing with the overall community score (not directly at least), which is just the average of the scores given by users. They are definitely based off of how the community rates each episode as an individual, just not the aggregate. If someone gives Re Creators a 4 star and gave MHA a 4 star, than in the system those are equals. Which is why shows with smaller fan bases or that are less popular are generally ranked higher, as there are less people comparing the show to others. So if the fanbase is small, and if each of them give a show a high rating IN COMPARISON to other shows, it will show up highly in the Best and Worst lists. Even if 10 million people rank MHA with 5 stars, but they don't rank anything else, then those 10 million votes don't count in the Best and Worst lists but will show up as a part of the community episode ranking.[/b]

Mad_Scientist wrote:

And community score never reflects the rankings? These rankings are BASED on the ANN community scores. Can I ask what YOU are talking about?

>Last episode of Re Creators scores a 4.2
>average is higher than Tsuredure Children, MHA and PriPri despite the fact that they all scored considerable higher

May want to stop pretending this system is flawless.

The rankings are computed using the Schulze method, with the variation that unrated titles are considered as abstentions instead of lower than the rated titles. This roughly means that if, out of all people who rated both A and B, 60% preferred A, it will be ranked higher than B.

That doesn't make any sense especially sense it never takes into account how many people dropped it as oppose to the people who stuck by it and rate it highly because they're fanboys which seems to have happened with MiA and last season with Tsuki which manged to beat Attack on Titan S2 despite the massive amounts of fans for the latter.

Crunky wrote:

Mad_Scientist wrote: And community score never reflects the rankings? These rankings are BASED on the ANN community scores. Can I ask what YOU are talking about? >Last episode of Re Creators scores a 4.2 >average is higher than Tsuredure Children, MHA and PriPri despite the fact that they all scored considerable higher May want to stop pretending this system is flawless.

I never said the system was flawless, I just didn't understand your complaints. Speaking of which, are you just gonna ignore how you claimed Re:Creators and Sakura Quest were seldom in the top 10, when they were in fact all season?

Also, you claim that the final episodes of Tsuredure Children, MHA, and PriPri all scored considerably higher than RE: Creators. Checking right now, Re:Creators has a 4.2, PriPri ALSO has a 4.2. So either the rating changed since the last time you looked, or, you are... mistaken about things again. Tsuredure Children and MHA *do* have higher scores than Re:Creators, however, I wouldn't say "substantially" higher, at least now, and as it turns out, both of us needed to read the fine print better.

There's more detail in the article and wikipedia, but this explains why there can sometimes be discrepancies between community score and ranking. And this method actually makes sense. People have rather different rating scales and methods, so one person's "4" may be the same as another person's "4.5". Taking into account direct comparisons is a way to deal with that some.

As much as you're going to blindly trust and fail to explain this system.

Back pedal some more why don't you?

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There's more detail in the article and wikipedia, but this explains why there can sometimes be discrepancies between community score and ranking. And this method actually makes sense. People have rather different rating scales and methods, so one person's "4" may be the same as another person's "4.5". Taking into account direct comparisons is a way to deal with that some.

4.5 is higher than 4.2 last time I checked

Crunky, you've been on a crusade against Abyss across at least three different threads now. I'm curious as to what it kicked out of first place that you had your heart set on being there?

No, his initial comment was a shot fired across Abyss's bow, couched in terms of the weak season. More than 3/4 of his posts are haranguing Abyss and anyone who thinks it's good. That's a little...obsessive, so I was just wondering what was fueling his rage, or what he thinks should be in the top spot.

Made in Abyss was the best show I've seen in the last couple of years, to be honest. It was groundbreaking and original in every sense of the word. Opinions are great.