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MarshalBanana
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I've seen the ADV dub, and maybe it is not enough tp judge it on, but Bretts Kamina wasn't very good. |
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Key
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Huh? Tokyo Ravens has as many episodes (24) as GATE does. |
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TarsTarkas
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It makes perfect sense if you are talking about that claim to the nations of Earth. You can bet, that if there was an actual StarGate at Cheyenne Mountain, the United States would be making that claim also. Now the realms and kingdoms on the other side of the Gate might not like that, it does make sense when applied to the nations of planet Earth. |
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ChibiKangaroo
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I get the rationale of Japan staking a claim. I just think their portrayal of Japanese military preparedness being godlike and American military being bumbling fools was extremely ridiculous. Let's be real, if such a gate opened in Japan tomorrow and the Americans said "we're going in," that is exactly what would happen. Granted, it would probably be a joint operation, but Japan is not going to actually stand up to the Americans any time soon.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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I completely disagree. The US would claim (if word of it got out) that the *Stargate* (and thus the use of the Stargate) belonged to them. I can't see them claiming (or anyone accepting) that the lands beyond the Stargate belonged to them. It would be absurd in Stargate: SG1, just as it was absurd in Gate. So, no, I don't think the claim made by Japan in the series makes the least bit of sense, nor would anyone outside of Japan have accepted it. |
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TarsTarkas
Posts: 5909 Location: Virginia, United States |
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The Gate lies within the national borders of the nation of Japan. No one else has access to the Gate. Japan can do whatever they want, and they don't have to provide oversight to foreign nations and organizations.
Though the most practical path for Japan would have been to keep this as a secret. Failing that, lie, lie, and lie. Since that is no longer feasible, they need to go all in, and harvest all they can in magic, creatures, special people, and resources. Cause they are going to need it to survive as a nation. This would be true for any other nation is a similar position. The 'have nots' will always be a problem. As to the Stargate, the intent would be for mining resources and perhaps colonization. A lot of the worlds they visited had massive uninhabited areas. Those that were inhabited could be traded with. Though the problem will again be the 'have nots' who will insist on equal access, even though they don't have to right to do so. |
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Nom De Plume De Fanboy
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Possession is nine-tenths of the law, to most people, most of the time. And access equals possession in practical terms. Pardon me if I use 'most' and 'practical' to leave a little leeway.
For example, Antarctica is open to all by treaty, and many nations have built scientific stations there, some with their own resources, but most of the supplies are flown around by American government aircraft. Rumor has it that when diplomats back in the home countries have said silly things about who 'owns' Antarctica, the US has played 800 lb gorilla and dropped hints about changing supply schedules to remind people of the reality of the situation. I think the scientists wish all such silliness would just go away. It is not that there is a right or wrong side, just that power flows from access. Antarctica may be a poor example, because as its resources are not thought valuable now, so the 'claims' are pretty much a joke. If, say, an alien spaceship crashed there, things would get interesting sooner or later. But for now, the US controls much of the practical access, and some tiny power flows from that. I don't want to give the impression that the US abuses anything or anybody, it's just an example of practical reality. So if Japan is attacked thru the gate, and they control the access to the gate, then the power of access is theirs, and any benefits are theirs. Until it closes. 
As for the show, I thought it was as fun a fantasy as anything with elves in it. 
That it was also a love letter to the JSDF, like John Wayne did with the movie the Green Berets, well, that was something I kinda had to tolerate to watch people fight dragons. I don't know Japan well enough to know if it's a symbol of serious national nastyness or not. I hope not. |
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jr240483
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if you do it like that format. but technically GATE 1st cour is 12 eps while the 2nd cour is also 12 giving it 24 eps. aldnoah zero did the same thing of sorts. even though their 2 season in the series, the 12 eps from season 2 are numbered like their one whole season. |
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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lol is this a trick question? I haven't watched either Gate or Gurren Lagann via dub and probably never will. Not to say there are no good dubs out there.. 2 off the top of my head were Hellsing and GTO.. |
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maximilianjenus
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whatI found the most dumb was teh americans "back stabing" japan so too speak, for half the nations of the world (so to speak not an exact number) a peaceful negotiation while giving the usa access to the gate is the most likely outcome and japan is one of said nations (basically, any nation that is in very friendly terms with the usa and/or has usa military bases)
funny thing, most of the novels are like that, and the highschool mc is the minority , at least conting the popualr ones, yet anime wise what we get is the higschool kid ones >.< (adn we get anything from I was lazy in my previous life so I will work hard in my second life, to overworked to death in my previous life , so I will just be lazy in my second life as well as all sorts of professions since modern world knowledge can be game breaking in fantasy world (like leilei is hinted to do in gate) ). |
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Spastic Minnow
Bargain Hunter Exempt from Grammar Rules  Posts: 4629 Location: Gainesville, FL |
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The Hidamari Sketch release had me excited for a moment. I thought I had missed the announcement at some point that they FINALLY licensed and released the Graduation arc.
Nope... it took them two years to follow up the DVD release of Honeycomb with the Blu-Ray. nice. I'm glad I decided the art of the series (though great and expressive in its minimalism) did not require BDs. |
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