Forum - View topicNEWS: Netflix to Stream Violet Evergarden Anime Worldwide
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Lynx Amali
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But thats Funiroll. Can't back talk the holy saviour I guess. |
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olgita
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As someone who is from Poland, I second that. I'm always annoyed when I hear the complaints from Americans about anime on Netflix, when at the same time they have Crunchyroll and Funimation, and Hulu, and Amazon Prime.... Besides Netflix, we (in Poland) have f"ckin' nothing. |
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Thorfinn
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Meanwhile, I'm glad and happy because Netflix must have spent a lot of money to get the streaming rights, which directly benefits the creators, especially since KyoAni on the production committee.
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ultimatehaki
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Meh, I'll just turn to the dark side like I did for LWA and currently for kakegurui. I got a Netflix account but I never wait.
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Draconix814
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Boi, they're already 20 billion in debt, but that obviously isn't stopping them. |
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chronos02
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Well, this sure seems like a heated debate, unfortunately I'll have to give the deffault winning place to those deffending the weekly simulcast.
Yes, deffault win. If you fail to understand why, go study some management, marketing and a bunch of other things, otherwise, become a true hardcore fan and you will also understand why (in another way, but it is still the same). However, from what I have been seeing, Netflix simply doesn't give two s**ts about the hardcore anime fan, their strategy is focused on something else: the casual viewers. If you haven't noticed, Netflix doesn't sell BDBoxes or merchandise, they only sell the weekly sub, and that means that what they care about is a rich catalog for the casual viewers to watch, and by casual viewers I don't mean the general market, but casual viewers of each and every video entertainment market, in this case, the casual viewers of anime series. They don't watch homungous amounts of shows like we do, they don't watch them weekly, and they are prone to watch 3-4 episodes per session. And most important of all, they don't usually share their experience on forums and the like, maybe some casual talk with their IRL friends, but that's it. What Netflix wants to do is transform the niche called Anime into mass market content, to get a more stable revenue instead of depending on BD sales, which also allows to keep afloat not so famous titles. And yes, you guys that keep deffending Netflix with their 4-6 month delay for a series are casual viewers, you wouldn't say that otherwise. And who the heck considers itself a reference when they work in a ship? Seriously, it's respectable, but most people are fixed in a house and watch their stuff there weekly, not with months of delay due to their trips. |
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NBlaze53
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To those defending Netflix and calling others "Impatient", tell me. Do you go see a movie 3 months after it came out in theaters and still expect anyone to be talking about it? It's about the community! Interacting with people and talking about the twists and turns as it airs. Instead with Netflix people get "Oh, that show? But it aired months ago" whenever they bring it up in conversations. You can't theorize about what the next episode might hold weekly with friends. Netflix ruins what many find appealing about anime as it airs, the speculation and conversing between the community.
Sure binge watching is better for a personal experience, but as a collective it's much more fun to watch shows together. Not to mention people who watch this on Netflix will have to avoid spoilers as it airs in Japan and as it pops up on fansub sites. Netflix's business model for anime does nothing but hurt the community and there is no defense for it. Sure they're great for the individual and the casual who don't care about air dates or conversing. But for the collective community of anime fans that make up message boards just like this, they are a detriment. |
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Well assuming it isn't still going "moo" then you got me there, but it was the wee hours of the morning.
Would you still accept that kind of reasoning when you ask for a raise but your boss tells you that over a billion people are living off of less than the equivalent of $1.25 per day? |
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Angel M Cazares
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This sucks. Looks like I will need to pirate Violet Evergarden. I usually don't get upset with Nexflix's anime distribution model because I don't care much about the anime they license, but this is different. One of the most anticipated anime series in years, from fan favorite studio Kyoto Animation deserves a simulcast.
I am happy to support Crunchyroll and Anime Strike because they do simulcasts. |
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AtoMan
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How is that comparable to anything?
I do. Especially tokusatsu movies, that get no release outside of Japan and we'll have to wait until a BluRay comes out in Japan and gets fansubbed. And, for the record, it's not much different for anime here, except we can pirate the official subs in a matter of hours. No official release, no dub, pretty much same thing. On the other hand, Netflix handling it means official means to get it, both subbed and dubbed, for the price of waiting a bit. I'd take it over no chance to see it legally at all. If noone talks about a movie or show a month after it aired, then it must have been not a very good one. I'd take quality over quantity, thank you very much.
What's stopping you people from doing just that? People do just fine with other Netflix shows, why would anime be different?
So just like everyone else does on a daily basis?
The community got hurt with the instant access to everything to the point you guys DEMAND the stiff to be available to you within hours. Look, I understand how Internet era made it unacceptable for have a year-long delays with everything - even theatrical releases, which was a norm in the 90s - but those still happen. Do you think every TV show airs worldwide at the same time? Most of the shows I watch either don't get licensed here at all. Now, thanks to Netflix, the number of shows I could watch legally greatly increased. How is that a bad thing? Protip: Netflix has several ways to contact them. Make complaints to them. If there's enough of it, they might reconsider the way they put out the shows, especially given they do, in fact, weekly releases for several shows. Those who say monopoly is a bad thing - yes, it is. But you are pretty much protecting Crunchyroll monopoly with attacking Netflix for trying to cater to the niche audience. |
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Because it's a functionally identical red herring, just another variation of "Somebody else somewhere else already has it or used to have it harder than you do, so you shouldn't be complaining." |
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AtoMan
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Except you can leave such job immediately, so no, not identical at all. Or rather, you can just try and convince Netflix they should switch to simulcasting anime because that's what the market demands. |
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Usagi-kun
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This describes my feelings exactly. I won't resort to piracy; it is just not that important, and despite my annoyance, I can adapt to the direction the industry is going. It sucks, but undermining the industry as a whole is not an excuse for me. I'll try to avoid spoilers, and look back on the days when it took two years to get a show stateside and after all of the companies I loved going out of business after the bubble popped. Single volume releases, retail markdown, a death rattle? Ridiculous, but piracy did not help any of them either. As the way of consuming media is changing, hopefully Netflix will realize sooner than later how much a growing fanbase is unwilling to put up with this bullshit, thankfully but with extreme impatience and very real sense of betrayal. |
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Aydın Tekin
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Can crunchyroll not make a partnership with netflix like funimation or can't netflix not do someting like sponsor crunchyroll?
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That was my most anticipated show of next year. I mean I will wait for it, but I would have liked to watch it weekly. Guess Ancient Magus Bride won't have as much competition in the Winter. Just move to making original anime already, Netflix.  |
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