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e-imi
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Does this guy even know that it's based of an H-Game? It's kind of hard to make an anime with a proper story line when the game is baisically about falling in love with a character and the problems of life and etc. 
This series hs to be up in my top best, I mean, where it makes up in story, it makes up in everything else. |
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DragonsRevenge
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I've never seen it, so this probably is a baseless statement to make, but... those are the most generic character designs I've ever seen.
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Machius
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A review of ToHeart, by a person who obviously just doesn't get it.
This is one of the most popular animes ever(well incredibly fondly remember and well known in Japan and amongst the internet communities) and the reason has nothing to do with storyline. It's all about the simple beauty of everyday life and love and the way you can immerse yourself in the story. If you want an indepth angst ridden plot this is not the series for you(although it's not yet dubbed i'd recommend the incredibly disturbing "School Days" series to be more to your liking). DragonsRevenge- yes the character designs are incredibly generic(as e-imi already mentioned it's based on a H-game), however this was done in the late 90's and many of the other characters which cause us to think of the ToHeart characters as generic were actually created afterwards. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Another annoying comment by someone who can't fathom why anyone would ever disagree with their opinion of a show. |
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Machius
Posts: 23 Location: Australia wishing I was back in Japan |
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Zac: I can fully understand why people don't agree with my opinions, however I feel that a review should be less biased and express both views. A review which doesn't is no longer a review but instead a personal critique. As a side point posts like this and your own not actually discussing the review or the topic are the truly useless posts.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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You don't understand what a review is. It is not an argument between the "like it" and "dislike it" side, it's one person's opinion of a show. If you disagree then say so, but coming in here and saying "Well, this person doesn't know how to review something - a review is supposed to represent "both sides" equally!" and then following that with "don't argue with me, that's beside the point!" shows me that you A) have no understanding whatsoever of what media criticism is and B) wish to silence people who challenge you on your flawed reasoning. A review is not "Well I liked this/didn't like this, but here's a paragraph or two talking about how I might be wrong." A review is "Here is my educated opinion backed up with examples and reasoning". |
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Machius
Posts: 23 Location: Australia wishing I was back in Japan |
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Sorry if I can over as wanting to silence you or the original opinion. We obviously have vastly different idea's on what a review should be.
My concept of a review is an article which covers the information about the topic, discusses the pros and cons of the topic and then adds a personal opinion of the topic and an overall rating. I have nothing against the expression of personal opinion through reviews(that is a major part of any review) however I dislike when a review is entirely colored by the personal opinion. |
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Machius
Posts: 23 Location: Australia wishing I was back in Japan |
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Sorry if I came over as wanting to silence you or the original opinion. We obviously have vastly different idea's on what a review should be.
My concept of a review is an article which covers the information about the topic, discusses the pros and cons of the topic and then adds a personal opinion of the topic and an overall rating. I have nothing against the expression of personal opinion through reviews(that is a major part of any review) however I dislike when a review is entirely colored by the personal opinion. |
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HellKorn
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Except... a review cannot be anything but entirely colored by a personal opinion. Alright, there are a few objective qualities one can measure. Animation is one of those. The animation (NOT ART OR CHARACTER DESIGNS, for those who ignorantly confuse them) is either of good quality or it isn't. But the other element ultimately boil down to persona opinion, nothing else. If a story cannot hold up on its own merits, then it's a failure. I don't give a damn about whatever dating-sim it came from or by its comparative nature to its origins. An adaption is an adaption. If the adaption is not a good story, then it's not a good story. Also, why is it that fans of these type of shows (moe, dating-sims, et cetera) seem to be so damn defensive whenever someone doesn't think highly of them? |
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Furudanuki
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You pose a legitimate question here, and I'll try to give you a straight answer based on how I see the situation. There are always going to be people who overreact when their favorite things are criticized, and I can't speak for what motivated the original argument. But if you find fans of this sub-genre to be a tad more defensive than some, it probably has a lot to do with the constant flood of comments that can be seen day in and day out that essentially boil down to: "I don't need to actually watch this show. It's based on a dating-sim, visual novel, eroge, etc., so it is a piece of crap. And anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot, a misogynist, and probably a closet pedophile to boot." So yeah, some fans have had their skin rubbed pretty raw already, and it doesn't take much to set them off. Being a tanuki, however, I have a pretty thick hide.  I don't expect everyone to like the same things I do. I don't have a problem with someone criticizing things I do like so long as they are not making statements that are factually incorrect or intentionally misleading, and their opinons are derived from actual knowledge of the material rather than blanket statements based on ignorance and preconceived notions. So if someone does not care for a series like To Heart because they couldn't relate to the characters, or thought it was too slow moving, or just does not enjoy high school romance anime in general, then that is simply a matter of taste. But someone who negatively characterizes a series simply because of the source material is another matter entirely.
NOTE! - My post was intended solely as a direct response to HellKorn's specific question, and should not in any way, shape, or form be construed as my opinion of - or a commentary on - this particular review of To Heart. For whatever it's worth, I probably enjoyed this series a bit more than the reviewer did, but I did not find anything in the article that I would characterize as clearly untrue or unfairly negative. |
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